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Step son doesn’t want to live with me & my daughter

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TipsyPinkOrca · 18/08/2025 13:01

So I’m looking for opinions on what’s happened & how do I move forward. I have been in a relationship with someone for 8 yrs. I moved into the flat in his house 7 yrs ago. For around 4 years when his son came to stay I had to pretend I wasn’t in a relationship with him. When his son moved in it continued . For the last 2 years his son knew we were together but we didn’t start renovations to make the flats one house . We lived together after for one month & his son spent Christmas with his mum & was rude when he came back . He was 15. I told him off on Christmas Day for not wanting to play a game with his nan& my family , and his dad made him . We all had a massive argument after Xmas & they moved into the annexe . As his son didn’t want to live with me & my daughter. All we have done - me & my partner is argue for 8 months . His son also wanted prior to this to join the army which he has. He leaves mid September. But during the 8 months out relationship has broken down, everything his son doesn’t like about us he now doesn’t like about us . Am I wasting my time ?

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TwistedWonder · 18/08/2025 15:15

So you went along with being kept a secret and allowed you and your daughter to become financially dependent on a man who isn’t her father and has no obligation to support either of you and whose son says he hates you both?

You really have made some bloody foolish decisions to get to where you are now.

TipsyPinkOrca · 18/08/2025 15:18

TwistedWonder · 18/08/2025 14:58

It doesn’t matter whose idea it was, you as adults have failed him, kept secrets from him and now evict him to play the dutiful step son - ridiculous

For clarification the reason his father didn’t tell him at first was his mother . His mum once she doesn’t like someone she cuts them off - her parents sister friends etc, the father of her other 2 children she accused of sexually abusing them , and they didn’t see him again . He continued his career in the navy . So she brike up with him she tried multiple tactics to stop there son from seeing him/ including assault , eventually after it was unfounded his son started seeing him again . I believe that was why he kept the relationship a secret . However when his son came to live with him he continued it .

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DaisyChain505 · 18/08/2025 15:19

I’m not surprised this poor boy is upset.

Hes been lied to by both his parents and is now being forced to live with people who he doesn’t know. Living with someone with autism can be extremely difficult so this adds an extra layer to the situation.

Also he now has someone who was pretending to be his fathers lodger trying to act like his parent bossing him about.

Why are you fully financially dependent on this man. Do you not work?

PhilippaGeorgiou · 18/08/2025 15:21

stayathomer · 18/08/2025 15:09

Rolling my eyes at the people who slag you off for wanting a teen to play cards/ game at Christmas time- if we all took this approach the kids would sit in their rooms all Christmas and never take part in anything. Parenting is sometimes forcing them to do things they don’t want to that chances are they’ll end up enjoying.

The OP wasn't his parent - she is and was someone who has lied to him (apparently all his dads fault though, nothing to do with her) for years who decided after a month of openly living with his father that she had the right to tell him what to do. And picked a bloody stupid battle based on the fact that he was too ungrateful for Christmas gifts (which she also didn't approve of) and therefore he should shut up and do as he is told. At least he had the excuse of being 15, as opposed to acting like one.

TipsyPinkOrca · 18/08/2025 15:24

DaisyChain505 · 18/08/2025 15:19

I’m not surprised this poor boy is upset.

Hes been lied to by both his parents and is now being forced to live with people who he doesn’t know. Living with someone with autism can be extremely difficult so this adds an extra layer to the situation.

Also he now has someone who was pretending to be his fathers lodger trying to act like his parent bossing him about.

Why are you fully financially dependent on this man. Do you not work?

Edited

He’s known me for 8 years . His half brother has special needs .
bossed him around ? What about the yesrs I spent ferrying him around to activities? Taking him to buy clothes , taking him to the cinema , concerts the theatre camping teaching him to cook ! Etc . Bossing him around ? I trod on eggshells with him .

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DaisyChain505 · 18/08/2025 15:26

TipsyPinkOrca · 18/08/2025 15:24

He’s known me for 8 years . His half brother has special needs .
bossed him around ? What about the yesrs I spent ferrying him around to activities? Taking him to buy clothes , taking him to the cinema , concerts the theatre camping teaching him to cook ! Etc . Bossing him around ? I trod on eggshells with him .

You’ve completely messed with his head. Why would his Dads lodger be taking him shopping and camping?

You’ve both lied to him and he’s angry. Rightly so.

TipsyPinkOrca · 18/08/2025 15:26

PhilippaGeorgiou · 18/08/2025 15:21

The OP wasn't his parent - she is and was someone who has lied to him (apparently all his dads fault though, nothing to do with her) for years who decided after a month of openly living with his father that she had the right to tell him what to do. And picked a bloody stupid battle based on the fact that he was too ungrateful for Christmas gifts (which she also didn't approve of) and therefore he should shut up and do as he is told. At least he had the excuse of being 15, as opposed to acting like one.

Wasn’t a month … it was around a year that he knew we were in a relationship, he wasn’t bothered when we all went on holiday together. The month was When the renovations had been completed & as there was stairs in the house I then shared a bedroom with his dad

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TipsyPinkOrca · 18/08/2025 15:29

TwistedWonder · 18/08/2025 15:15

So you went along with being kept a secret and allowed you and your daughter to become financially dependent on a man who isn’t her father and has no obligation to support either of you and whose son says he hates you both?

You really have made some bloody foolish decisions to get to where you are now.

Her father is brain damaged due to alcoholism which is why I left him. Yes I am now financially dependent on him as before Covid I was working part time , however Covid impacted on my work & my daughters anxiety became worse, she also finished school and now only attends adult education for adults with disabilities making it impossible for me to work as I am her carer as well as parent .

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teenmaw · 18/08/2025 15:32

Op you’re very defensive and constantly turning this back to everything you feel this kid should be grateful for. Acts of service, though nice and kind, don’t in any way make up for the lack of stability in family life. He’s struggling and you can’t see past the giant list of things you’ve done for him. He’s deeply not happy, he’s a child and he’s needing support.

TipsyPinkOrca · 18/08/2025 15:32

DaisyChain505 · 18/08/2025 15:26

You’ve completely messed with his head. Why would his Dads lodger be taking him shopping and camping?

You’ve both lied to him and he’s angry. Rightly so.

For the time he knew we were in a relationship. Before that his dad took him to work everyday in the holidays . When he knew I asked if he wanted to do things ! In turn he asked me for things . He was fine until the last month after the renovations were done

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TipsyPinkOrca · 18/08/2025 15:42

teenmaw · 18/08/2025 15:32

Op you’re very defensive and constantly turning this back to everything you feel this kid should be grateful for. Acts of service, though nice and kind, don’t in any way make up for the lack of stability in family life. He’s struggling and you can’t see past the giant list of things you’ve done for him. He’s deeply not happy, he’s a child and he’s needing support.

I am defensive . For 5 years I stood by his father in all the struggles he had with his ex . I agreed that when he lived with her that it would be better for all concerned that she didn’t know , especially when She stopped his son seeing him. And when his son first came to live with his dad I agreed it wasn’t the best idea to spring it on him . But as time went by I tried to build a relationship with him. And we all got on. I asked millions of times for his father to come clean. But he didn’t. But still when he decided to come clean and say we were in a relationship it was a bit rocky & I was patient . We didn’t do anything together until he was around 14. But when he was 15 and we finally said we would convert the house . It was done for a few months . Then he decided he didn’t like it in the last month & they moved next door for him to calm down . Then he said he hated us and didn’t want to live with us .

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Sunholidays · 18/08/2025 15:43

To answer your question, OP, yes I think you are wasting your time.

What are you prepared to do about it? You are completely dependent on your partner so you'd need to find a job, save at least three month's rent and move out. Unless you have savings.

Doseofreality · 18/08/2025 15:46

Respect had to be earned. You lied to him for years He was a child who learned you can’t be trusted.

TipsyPinkOrca · 18/08/2025 15:47

Doseofreality · 18/08/2025 15:46

Respect had to be earned. You lied to him for years He was a child who learned you can’t be trusted.

His dad lied

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TwistedWonder · 18/08/2025 15:47

TipsyPinkOrca · 18/08/2025 15:47

His dad lied

And you were complicit

TipsyPinkOrca · 18/08/2025 15:48

TwistedWonder · 18/08/2025 15:47

And you were complicit

I was in his father’s house and had been living there for 4 years already … what was the alternative?

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Minnie798 · 18/08/2025 15:52

Definitely sounds like a relationship where everyone would benefit from it just ending. The previous poster who called the situation a car crash is spot on.

TipsyPinkOrca · 18/08/2025 15:56

Minnie798 · 18/08/2025 15:52

Definitely sounds like a relationship where everyone would benefit from it just ending. The previous poster who called the situation a car crash is spot on.

His father wanted to continue after his son leaves

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DaisyChain505 · 18/08/2025 15:57

Well you’re not going to end the relationship because this man is paying your way and putting a roof over your head. So I suggest you talk to him about how you can both help his son.

TipsyPinkOrca · 18/08/2025 15:58

DaisyChain505 · 18/08/2025 15:57

Well you’re not going to end the relationship because this man is paying your way and putting a roof over your head. So I suggest you talk to him about how you can both help his son.

I’ve done that for 7 months all I get is no .

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RattyMcBatty · 18/08/2025 16:02

Don't think it was your place to tell the son off at Christmas time, when he thought you'd only been in a relationship with his dad for one month.

SpidersAreShitheads · 18/08/2025 16:07

The fact you've made terrible decisions and been complicit in lying almost doesn't matter now. You are where you are.

And that's in a deeply vulnerable position with an autistic DD, reliant on a man in a relationship that sounds dead in the water.

You need to pull yourself together and make a plan that allows you to be self-reliant and move on. Continuing this car crash of a situation isn't fair to anyone.

pikkumyy77 · 18/08/2025 16:58

I wish people would’nt bother with these blaming and shaming comments. OP isn’t responsible for the lies her partner and his ex chose to use in managing their crappy relationship. There is nothing she could have done or said that would have changed this long standing pattern of aggression and avoidance between the SS’s actual parents.

The boy isn’t a heroic victim here—at least not if the OP. He’s just a resentful teen who can’t act out his rage and need for control on anyone but OP and her daughter. That isn’t because they are more at fault. Its just because they are vulnerable to the boy’s leverage (rage, unpleasant behavior, extortionate threats) which he can use against his father but not his mother.

The boy needs loving limits to his destructive, spiteful, rage. But he won’t get them from his spineless father. He only knows how to threaten withdrawal as that us what he kearned from his biological parents. OP can’t change this pattern but it’s not her fault.

Unfortunately it is what it is. If your so called partner doesn’t care to secure your safety and housing then he isn’t really your partner. He just played one for eight years when it was convenient.

Here on mumsnet no adult human is ever thought to reliably care for another person and her child for very long. The dependent partner is always held to be at fault for her poverty, disabled child, fragile circumstances.

Don’t look for sympathetic or thoughtful responses to this problem here. Just realize that your partner is not concerned to protect you or your dd.

teenmaw · 18/08/2025 18:54

The point is op, at the point where a year had gone by and they were all still lying to the boy, that was your time to leave. You’ve stayed in the middle of this voluntarily. I’m not judging, I stayed with a rotter for 17 years, but now I have to own my shit and try to repair the damage it’s done to my kids. None of this is their fault and yeah they’ve acted up because of it. You need to parent traumatised kids different to other teens, first thing is to have some empathy. The boys brain is a mess at his age, he needs stability and understanding. Sounds like you’re stuck there a while yet, I suggest a complete change of tact if this is going to work. This approach isn’t working.

luckylavender · 18/08/2025 18:56

There’s no future in this relationship