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Constant accusations , won't listen to anything or even accept proof I am not on adult websites

217 replies

Pleasehelpmefeelbetter · 04/06/2025 13:53

I feel so low and really need people to talk to and some help.

Background is I used to work as an escort through adultwork. Once 20 years ago when I had a young baby and my husband lost his job (he knew it was his idea) he's now my ex husband. I was 20 at the time.

And then a couple of years ago when I was between jobs and had no regular income and by this stage divorced with kids.

I had a man make an appt and come and see me through my escorting work. We began talking and met for lunch and we began seeing each other.

He was very hot and cold. Coming close very intense then backing off. He told me about himself and that he was 2 years clean and Sober after having a serious daily alcohol and cocaine habit. He had been to rehab and is now totally Sober. He admitted he had no counselling and didn't work the 12 steps. In shirt he did no inner work about any if his issues. He had something traumatic happen when he was younger which probably put him on this path. He has adult children he loves and lives with (I have never met them) he's not met my kids. We talk about our work lives family with one another..we sp3ak via message daily and call regularly. I will email if I am work as I don't have my phone on me.

In August last year we said we loved each other and he said he was struggling with what i did for work. I was about to go back to work in my proper job getting my salary again (i had been off long term sick unpaid after serious illness) and i said i would come off the site and stop the work. Which i did. I never gave it another thought .

He ghosted me in September last year as he was having a full scale depressive mental episode saying he could cope with life, his mind was in a bad place and he couldnt cope. I kept reaching out as I was very worried about him and he came back apologised and things were great after that.

Around my birthday I went to have dinner with a school friend (female) he accused me of going to that area to meet someone and said he had been looking online and someone with mu description was working in the same area that night that I was there.

It wasn't me. I told him this and showed him the texts with my friend arranging to meet. A photo of us that was taken that sort of thing. He was relieved. Said his mind had gone crazy overthinking and he was sorry. He admitted another evening I went to a music event he looked up the location googled it etc. He said he didn't mind me going that he trusted me but I got a bad vibe that he didn't like it and was happier when he knew I was back at home he said this wasn't the case though. That he wanted to make sure I was safe and OK.

I have never lied to him about me my past or my present. He knows where I work. I only really have one close friend and a couple of what I would call acquaintances I do things socially with. I have been on a couple of work nights out which he knows about in this time as I was on a new team and they invited me to things so it was nice to be included.

Let me stree I love this man. Really love him despite his behaviours and issues and the thought of losing him is unbearable. When he ghosted me the first time I was in an absolute mess. I cried driving to work some days . Often at night on my own. My sleep was disturbed and I was anxious to the point I went to the GP and they prescribed me phenergan and anti depressants.

In the middle of Feb around the time of his sons birthday he went quieter with me. And I could sense something was wrong. He said it was wrong seeing me and he needed to work on things at home. With that he vanished for 9 weeks. I left a note on his car. I messaged (he admitted he blocked me calling him ) he didn't block on wattsapp and eventually one day he replied to say he thought about me every single day and to wish me a happy Easter. It was a breakthrough and it took another week or so and he opened up and asked to speak in person..we did and he said he wanted the physical side to stop. But he wanted to stay friends.

After that now every few days he will message me saying things like
This will be the last time you ever hear from me.
I am deleting wattsapp
We cant be in contact it's no good for my mental state etc

The crux of it and he's admitted it is that he rejoined adult work in that 9 weeks and he saw a profile of a woman he believes is me.. she's the same age hair colour build not far from me.. but it's NOT me..he will not accept this.

I have been absolutely distraught. Apparently she was active on her profile constantly until the same time I went back to work off annual leave. This is proof he says its me. I also saw him one morning as I stopped by his work to drop him off an ice cream as it was a really hot day and he was working hard. I had just finished my shift at work. Apparently this profile messaged him not long after I left. He's convinced its me.

I don't have an AW profile.
I am not on any other websites and never was
I don't have a second phone

He then apologised said he was sorry and next day brought me flowers. This saw Saturday
By Tuesday he started again one night.. he sent loads of emails to my work email. Accused me of working from home and accessing them remotely (I don't. I work for an organisation where u can only access emails from inside of work on their computers. My work can't be done from home) I gave him my work extension number and he called it 'proof' I thought to put these Accusations to bed. No a few days later bam. Started again..

He said the markings on another woman's body match mine. Freckles... his phone is full of screen shots of women and their profiles. One calls herself a slut a word I would never use. I pointed this out. So then he accused me of being someone calling themselves shy.

I have life 360 on my phone. Cos of my kids. I showed him this. Showed him when I arrived at work and when I left. He just kept on and on.

Tuesday I came out and had texts saying he saw my car parked in a random road somewhere and for me to come out and say hello. It wasn't mine. I asked for proof with a photo he had seen it. He obviously didn't have it. We met yesterday to go bowling which I suggested to try and do something nice together and move on from this.

One min he will say its in his head then he will say i am a liar I am making a cunt of him. He don't wanna hear my lies and to fuck off. I showed him my phone in the bowling alley. When he could find nothing as there is nothing.. i am not an escort anymore. I don't go on cam either. Something else he's accused me of. He then said I must have software which is hiding apps and searches.

I feel so so unhappy, anxious , in a constant state of fear worry and panic that he's going to accuse me of something else. I haven't got out of bed today. I have barely eaten in 2 days. I am struggling to function. He's discarded me again and believes I am a liar who's on websites.

I love this man and the thought of him not being in my life is absolutely devastating for me. How can I make him see sense. What should I do.

If I shout loudly he says i am trying to hard to prove my innocence. If I grey rock and don't get drawn into it he says I am too calm and its because I knew his proof was coming. His proof is a few headless shots of white skinned brunette women. Even if their body shapes are different he says I have altered the photos.

I am at the stage where I am showing my life 360. Showing my phone. Taken photos of my body to compare to these woman so he can look and see its not me. He just changes the goalposts constantly. One of them had a tattoo he said I photoshopped it on to hide its me..the woman had different nails. He just kept looking at my hands and then waved it away. Then said when I had lunch with My brother in Sussex I popped and saw a customer quickly. I didn't. I had one of my kids with me.

I am a tall dark haired woman. I can't help that and obviously there will be women similar to me on those sites.

He just won't listen. It's breaking my heart and my mind can't cope anymore.

OP posts:
Quitelikeacatslife · 06/06/2025 08:48

You have done amazing, the steps you are taking are great, you will have the best cheerleaders on here to help you keep going . But we all want to hear you have blocked and deleted his number. Please please do that and then keep going with the work on yourself.
You will miss the idea of him for a while, but your body is telling you that you can’t take any more of the anxiety he is giving you
Get therapy, focus on your career, invite someone kind at work to go for coffee, go visit family at the weekends, join a gym, volunteer somewhere (but stay away from people with alcohol, drug or abusive pasts, you need space to heal for you)
keep busy with positivity, your life will be better and stronger but you need calmness (you call it emptiness but it isn’t)
you need to heal.
the next part of your life will be great
but first BLOCK DELETE BLOCK DELETE BLOCK DELETE BLOCK DELETE

Pleasehelpmefeelbetter · 06/06/2025 16:11

Just wanted to post as I am reeling and struggling.

I have started the beta blockers. I took my mirtazapine last night. It worked quickly but has made me feel very drowsy spaced out and numb. Numb is good as the mental pain isn't as bad. But I feel like I am in a fog. I till try breaking one in half tonight and maybe take it early.

Hes not contacted me. His wattsapp doesnt work and he used his dads to facetime me last saturday (i had been out on the friday and i think he maybe wanted to check i was at home in my own bed... ) anyway i have never met his dad but this afternoon i saw the message thread to that number (i had sent 'proof'of where i had been one day last week and I have been blocked by his dad's account. He must have done that. Maybe he's worried i will contact his family about his behaviour i don't know. I wouldn't do that as I just wouldn't and 2 I think he's unstable and I wouldn't risk what he might do.

Anyway I was struggling. I will admit I just want him to acknowledge he's wrong and apologise I guess. So I sent this

You have absolutely devastated me with constant accusations and the way you have treated me. Cold. Uncaring. Nasty. Abusive.

Everyone you get close to you hurt , mistreat, abuse and once they are broken depressed shells you run away, hide, give the silent treatment and ignore them like they don't matter. That's abuse!

How could u do that to someone who loves u, cares about you and tried so hard to bring u some happiness

I am heartbroken and feel suicidal

Within mins he called me and he was angry. He said oh give it a rest then he hung up . He sent a text saying stop taking me for a mug.

He doesn't believe a word i say even when I am in extreme mental pain he doesn't even believe me. I feel so lost and hopeless 😔

OP posts:
AnonWho23 · 06/06/2025 17:12

Pleasehelpmefeelbetter · 06/06/2025 16:11

Just wanted to post as I am reeling and struggling.

I have started the beta blockers. I took my mirtazapine last night. It worked quickly but has made me feel very drowsy spaced out and numb. Numb is good as the mental pain isn't as bad. But I feel like I am in a fog. I till try breaking one in half tonight and maybe take it early.

Hes not contacted me. His wattsapp doesnt work and he used his dads to facetime me last saturday (i had been out on the friday and i think he maybe wanted to check i was at home in my own bed... ) anyway i have never met his dad but this afternoon i saw the message thread to that number (i had sent 'proof'of where i had been one day last week and I have been blocked by his dad's account. He must have done that. Maybe he's worried i will contact his family about his behaviour i don't know. I wouldn't do that as I just wouldn't and 2 I think he's unstable and I wouldn't risk what he might do.

Anyway I was struggling. I will admit I just want him to acknowledge he's wrong and apologise I guess. So I sent this

You have absolutely devastated me with constant accusations and the way you have treated me. Cold. Uncaring. Nasty. Abusive.

Everyone you get close to you hurt , mistreat, abuse and once they are broken depressed shells you run away, hide, give the silent treatment and ignore them like they don't matter. That's abuse!

How could u do that to someone who loves u, cares about you and tried so hard to bring u some happiness

I am heartbroken and feel suicidal

Within mins he called me and he was angry. He said oh give it a rest then he hung up . He sent a text saying stop taking me for a mug.

He doesn't believe a word i say even when I am in extreme mental pain he doesn't even believe me. I feel so lost and hopeless 😔

I'm sorry you are struggling and I don't dusagree I think he is absolutely" Cold. Uncaring. Nasty. Abusive". However, you shouldn't be contacting him. He has ask you not to and blocked you. You are pursuing him. He could say you are harassing him. I think that his abusive behaviour has absolutelyhad an impact on your MH but you are solely responsible for your wellbeing. If you are suicidal you need to go to A&E or call the emergency MH team. Calling him seem manipulative. Stay away from him. He isn't good for you and this relationship is toxic.

I hope you get the help you need to get better and move on to a more positive situation.

SapporoBaby · 06/06/2025 17:13

He’s a nasty cunt OP. Give yourself grace, grieve and then carry on. Don’t let a man like that ruin your life he’s not worth that

Quitelikeacatslife · 06/06/2025 17:38

Stop and go back and read every message on the thread again. No one said persuade him that you are right, not one person thinks he will admit this. Even if he did he’d take it back the day after. Every person said block him and get away from him.
read the responses from all these sensible people and read them again.
block him
you are worth more, your life will get better without him in it.
if you are suicidal please call the Samaritans

Pleasehelpmefeelbetter · 06/06/2025 18:06

You are all right.
I didn't tell him how I felt to make him come back. More to make him realise I am not the person he's accusing me of being and to make him see the effect he's having on me.

He's so so angry. He's just called again saying please leave me alone and shouting at me. My anxiety is now back at fever pitch.

He's never ever going to apologise. He's never going to realise he's got it wrong. He sounds like he's totally lost the plot.

I am sad as he never spoke to me like this or behaved this way before. Hopefully in time he will calm down. At the moment his rage seems to be growing bigger and bigger. Never known or experienced anything like this.

I haven't called him. I am not contacting anyone about him. Literally all I said was his behaviour was cruel and abusive unfair and was having a terrible effect on me.

The best thing now is I say nothing else. I will never ever get my head round what the hell has just happened to me or why. X

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Sodthesystem · 06/06/2025 19:03

Please stop engaging with him.

You need to stop explaining yourself to him. He WANTS you stuck trying to prove yourself. It's deliberate.

Block him and never contact him again..

Endofyear · 06/06/2025 19:04

OP you need to stop contacting him. Really, just stop! He is not going to be sorry, he doesn't care, what are you hoping to achieve? You need to concentrate on looking after yourself. This includes making a concerted effort not to think about him. He is gone from your life. Think about what you can do to make YOUR life better - this might include getting some exercise in the fresh air, eating something healthy and comforting, reading or watching something uplifting, yoga or mindful meditation (CALM app is good) Keep taking the prescribed dose of mirtazapine - it will take a few days but your body will adjust and it will help you sleep. You're going to get well and start enjoying your life again - keep reminding yourself of this and believe it.

CrazyGoatLady · 06/06/2025 19:05

Lovely, you won't be able to convince him of anything. He's playing horrible mind games with you. Don't let him do this to you any more.

Pleasehelpmefeelbetter · 06/06/2025 20:45

Thankyoh for all the advice and tips.

All I want to ask u is why.

Why is he saying he wants no contact he wants me gone from his life and getting a kick from this. What would he have to gain from it. He was crying saying he loved me and the idea I was lying to him about my work was tearing his mind apart. Whys he turned so so nasty. I have never seen this side before.

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fourelementary · 06/06/2025 20:47

You say he didn’t do any work on himself but you clearly need to take time out and work on yourself. This isn’t love. Love yourself and leave him. Don’t look back, seek therapy.

CrazyGoatLady · 06/06/2025 20:51

Pleasehelpmefeelbetter · 06/06/2025 20:45

Thankyoh for all the advice and tips.

All I want to ask u is why.

Why is he saying he wants no contact he wants me gone from his life and getting a kick from this. What would he have to gain from it. He was crying saying he loved me and the idea I was lying to him about my work was tearing his mind apart. Whys he turned so so nasty. I have never seen this side before.

He's turned nasty because he is nasty. Nasty men hide the nasty to hook you in, and then they gradually let the nasty out. But rest assured, he always was nasty underneath.

Sodthesystem · 06/06/2025 20:54

Ok so I've skim read your replies a little op but...He says he doesn't want contact but he's contacting you to say he doesn't want contact....

He wants to hurt you.
That's what abusers do. But guarantee he won't stop harassing you unless you make him.

Either that or there's a new woman on the scene. Often they suddenly turn nasty towards you then because they have been cheating and want to make you the bad guy.

Either way, there's no need to let 'why' consume you. Because ultimately all that matters is he makes you stressed and miserable. And you don't deserve that shit.

Lions make no sense to lambs. Don't bother trying to understand them. You never will because you're just not like him.

And that's a good thing.

Pleasehelpmefeelbetter · 06/06/2025 20:59

I feel scared by the suddenness and abruptness . And I feel so upset at it .

I will read up about narcissit disgard as that's what it appears to be.

He had told me after a weekend last month where he didn't speak to his own wife for 3 days that she messaged saying how fed up sue was with his treatment. She said she was going to go to a support group and he should come and hear the effect his behaviours had on her over the years. He also said she says he's a narcissist.

With that he then tried to label his behaviour as being because he's a narcissist and is this what narcissists do. All messed up. Really messed up

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Sodthesystem · 06/06/2025 21:08

Pleasehelpmefeelbetter · 06/06/2025 20:59

I feel scared by the suddenness and abruptness . And I feel so upset at it .

I will read up about narcissit disgard as that's what it appears to be.

He had told me after a weekend last month where he didn't speak to his own wife for 3 days that she messaged saying how fed up sue was with his treatment. She said she was going to go to a support group and he should come and hear the effect his behaviours had on her over the years. He also said she says he's a narcissist.

With that he then tried to label his behaviour as being because he's a narcissist and is this what narcissists do. All messed up. Really messed up

Narcissists give themselves away like he does

Firstly, they tell you of how they treated someone badly. In this case. His wife. To test if you will dismiss his bad behaviour towards others.

Secondly they'll even flat up tell you 'my ex says im/I am a narcissist'

He's done both these things.

He's told you what he is. For goodness sake, listen to him.

His behaviour is because he's a narcissist. That's not mental illness. He's not ill. He's basically just a psychopath.

If a psychopath starts killing people. So you hang around going 'gee I wonder why he did that?'. No! You just run like the wind.

AnonWho23 · 06/06/2025 21:08

You are pissing in the wind @Pleasehelpmefeelbetter. What do you think he's going to do? Do you think he's actually going to admit that he's cold, uncaring, nasty and abusive and that hes been head fucking you because he gets a kick out of the power and control he gets from it? He is never ever going to do that.

You don't need to know his WHYS or Wherefores. You know that he's being abusive. That's as clear as the nose on your face. Stop looking to him and start looking to yourself. You need to look at why you have tolerated his behaviour. Why did you take him back the first time he ghosted you. Why you didn't notice the red flags. What can you do to stop this happening ever again. I'm no way blaming you for his behaviour. I just worry that if you don't reflect and work on yourself you might end up with another wanker. It's very easy to go from one abusive partner to the next.

Pleasehelpmefeelbetter · 06/06/2025 21:23

Yes totally agree about one abuser to the next.

So there was a build up the first time. Him being quiet. His wife threw him out rather abruptly and he stayed at his parents for a few days. She was fed up being ignored. Feeling unloved. She wanted him to move back into the house properly and them have a proper relationship and try and fix things. He kept stalling. Not making the effort. Not really bothering. He wouldn't go on the family holiday with them which was a big source of pain for her. In my defence I said If he wasn't going to leave and intended staying he should make the effort. That it wasn't fair on her and it would deeply hurt me if he was my husband.

I admit it was a big red flag and warning sign. That he could sit in the spare room messaging me all night knowing she desperately wanted him to work to fix things and he wouldn't bother. I folloishly believed him to be unhappy and my love would bring him happiness and make him a better person.

He said being with me made him realise how good life could be but he's treated them all so bad over the years he couldn't face being the bad person again by walking out on the marriage. I think he was half hoping she would end it so he wouldn't have to. He said it was taking a toll on his mental health and he pretty much shut down and went silent. He just vanished. Didn't use wattsapp switched his phone off and vanished. I was absolutely worried sick. I reached out many times and slowly he came out of his shell and began talking again.

The second ghosting was at random with no warning. It was in the middle of a text conversation instigated by him. He asked about a meeting I had been to and he never came back to read my reply. 9 weeks went by. I reached out loads and realised he had blocked me texting and calling but not on wattsapp strangely. He just never looked on wattsapp but said he saw my messages appear on his homescreen. It was in that time knowing I was worried upset and missing him and without explanation he joined adult work to see someone and this obsession about me properly began to take hold.

He came back and was never the same man again. The anger and accusations got worse and it came thick and fast. I suspect now looking back he had these suspicions about me for a very long time. Possibly the whole time and they have got worse and worse.

He always felt bad for leaving me. I admit I have huge abandonment issues from my father. I have an anxious attachment style. He knows about those core wounds I had like an idiot told him after the first ghosting. To make him realise what his behaviour had done. He was so apologetic. So sorry . Said he never thought about what it would do and he hoped I would forgive him. So genuine. Probably all an act.

This time there was no such big emotions. He was much colder. I realise now in his mind he get justified buggering off as he believes me to be a liar who's out to ruin his life and is deceiving him.

He genuinely seems to believe I am this deceitful lying woman and he's not standing for it. His anger towards me is extreme and painful to be on the receiving end of

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Odiebay · 06/06/2025 22:28

At some point you have to stop believing everything someone says and start believing their actions. His actions are telling you who he is.

I could tell you I'm the queen of England but your not just going to take my word for it are you?

The truth is he cheated on his wife with you, spun you a load of lies and when you got too "complicated" in his eyes he got rid of you. But of course it had to be all your fault why he was forced to dump you. So now he's on to the next. This is how men like him operate.

You need to change your number and never contact him again. He is not going to apologise because men like him never think they are in the wrong. He knows he can manipulate you and enjoys making you feel down and humiliated.

If you keep contacting him when he's told you not to he could go after you for harassing him. .

I hope you can put as much energy as you are currently giving this low life scumbag to yourself and your children instead.

SapporoBaby · 07/06/2025 05:30

Pleasehelpmefeelbetter · 06/06/2025 20:45

Thankyoh for all the advice and tips.

All I want to ask u is why.

Why is he saying he wants no contact he wants me gone from his life and getting a kick from this. What would he have to gain from it. He was crying saying he loved me and the idea I was lying to him about my work was tearing his mind apart. Whys he turned so so nasty. I have never seen this side before.

Why? Because it makes you beg and plead your case and try obsessively to prove to him that you are good and worthy of love. And he enjoys that as much as he enjoys cutting you off completely when he wants to do other things.

Its not about love or fear or jealousy… it’s about CONTROL and POWER. He likes having power over you.

SapporoBaby · 07/06/2025 05:32

He also could be getting angry etc because you’re not doing as you’re told. He’s a narcissist and he’s commanding you to leave him alone and go feel sad by yourself and you keep contacting him. This leads him to be furious at you for defying him.

Leave the angry, dangerous man alone OP. He could kill you if he gets angry enough.

SapporoBaby · 07/06/2025 05:32

He also could be getting angry etc because you’re not doing as you’re told. He’s a narcissist and he’s commanding you to leave him alone and go feel sad by yourself and you keep contacting him. This leads him to be furious at you for defying him.

Leave the angry, dangerous man alone OP. He could kill you if he gets angry enough.

Pleasehelpmefeelbetter · 07/06/2025 11:02

I haven't contacted him and I spoke to my friend about what's been going on.

I wouldn't tell his wife as 1. I wouldn't want the backlash and 2 she's clearly been through alot with the man and it would hurt her when she's done nothing wrong.

But the arrogance of the man treating me like this how can he not be worried that I will blow his world apart and go to her. I could give alot of info that would leave her in no doubt he had had a long running affair with me. I am surprised he's being so nasty knowing what it could do. .

I feel a bit lost today. I will get up and make a drink and wash myself in a min as I haven't sin e Tuesday. I will try and get on best I can x

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skyeisthelimit · 07/06/2025 11:05

You will never get the answers that you want from him. He is abusing you and manipulating you. It has never been a healthy relationship and never will be.

Block him on every possible channel. If you ever start to doubt yourself, remember why you did it and move on.

Get counselling to deal with your anxiety and issues. - I say that as someone who had counselling for a very long time. It does help. It helps you to reframe things, to deal with things, to find ways of coping.

But first you have to stop engaging with him and block him everywhere.

Spendysis · 07/06/2025 13:13

You aren't going to get any answers or apologies from him stop contacting him you are torturing yourself more by engaging with him block him and get therapy

Pleasehelpmefeelbetter · 08/06/2025 11:32

I haven't contacted him and I haven't heard a word from him.

Guess he never cared at all.

I will go back to work tomorrow and try and get on. I feel empty inside . He's probably still looking at these sites messaging these women and convincing himself it's me. I feel sick at the thought

I just want the pain to go away

I was conned and played with and it bloody hurts . Hurts he's probably moved on to someone else. That's probably the real reason he wants rid of me and used to be up half the night. Guess I will never know

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