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Trans Widows Support In The UK

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midlandhold · 29/05/2025 19:40

Hey, I am a bit lost and looking for help/guidance.

My husband of 19 years admitted to me in March that he wants to transition and has started investigating surgeries etc.

I don't feel like i am capable of carrying on the relationship and have found that there just isn't really any 'real people' help for those of us who feel this way.

All I really want is to find someone I can actually talk to who can relate to what I am going through - is there anyone out there who could point me in the right direction?

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midlandhold · 15/06/2025 18:47

RowsOfFlowers · 15/06/2025 14:36

Gosh what a terribly difficult thing to be going through OP, my heart is with you. I can’t imagine how you must be feeling after such a long time together. I do agree that a support group or speaking to a therapist could help you xx

Thank you. It’s very difficult. I’m seeing a therapist weekly but would just like to speak to someone directly who has been or is going through the same thing xx

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midlandhold · 15/06/2025 18:48

TheSandgroper · 15/06/2025 10:12

To add to the other links (the Mumsnet link is the best in the world), Tracy Shannon and Ute Heggen on YouTube in interview and chats may bring some classic to you.

Thank you. I need all the help I can get at the moment x

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midlandhold · 15/06/2025 18:50

MyKindLimeCrow · 15/06/2025 15:02

Thete is a really good podcast episode about this that I can find for you if you want, about how they just plow straight ahead and how you can set your own boundaries and what to expect. Let me know.

It really does look like an addiction, like it's completely out of control. Are you looking at getting away from him?

Thank you I appreciate all the help and info I can get. Yes definitely. I’m not living like that. It’s not for me.

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midlandhold · 15/06/2025 18:52

TinselAngel · 15/06/2025 18:28

https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/4879982-trans-widows-escape-committee-6-the-next-generation?utm_campaign=thread&utm_medium=app_share

Hi OP. Here is a link to the most recent trans widows thread although there hasn’t been much going on there for a while.

As you say, unfortunately Trans Widows Voices has never had the resources (mostly as it would be so time consuming) to set up a private forum even though it is desperately needed.

Thank you. I will take a look. Yes it’s desperately needed but I understand it’s a time consuming thing to run! It’s quite shocking to see how many women have been out through this.

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midlandhold · 15/06/2025 18:58

RowsOfFlowers · 15/06/2025 15:09

I find the using of prostitutes strange and this would indicate more of a sex addiction rather than genuine gender dysphoria. How concerning. This def sounds more like AGP and some kind of fetish!

I agree that boundaries are going to be important here. I hope you’re able to look after yourself OP and get some good self-care and a support network in place.

He’s definitely AGP. From everything he’s done in the past and to his behaviour now. Dressing like a porn star. Long blonde wig and clothes someone in their twenties would wear not a woman in her 40s. He has mummy issues and I think all of this stems from childhood. Apparently he’s felt like this since he was 14. I think porn has helped him on his way with all of this. Starts with normal porn and then escalates and before you know it they are watching trans porn. He lies, gaslights and has narcissistic tendencies. I’m better off without him for sure. I just mourn the 19 years we were together. It’s such wasted time in my eyes with someone who clearly wasn’t deserving of me.

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RowsOfFlowers · 15/06/2025 19:24

midlandhold · 15/06/2025 18:58

He’s definitely AGP. From everything he’s done in the past and to his behaviour now. Dressing like a porn star. Long blonde wig and clothes someone in their twenties would wear not a woman in her 40s. He has mummy issues and I think all of this stems from childhood. Apparently he’s felt like this since he was 14. I think porn has helped him on his way with all of this. Starts with normal porn and then escalates and before you know it they are watching trans porn. He lies, gaslights and has narcissistic tendencies. I’m better off without him for sure. I just mourn the 19 years we were together. It’s such wasted time in my eyes with someone who clearly wasn’t deserving of me.

This is quite terrifying isn’t it?! I wonder what the hell the appeal of dressing like a 20 year old woman is, so what they get off on it? It’s gross and creepy. To think they wanted us to share bathrooms and changing facilities with these kinds of people?!
I understand it was a big chunk of time in your life, and you’ve every right to mourn it and feel disappointed that it feels wasted, but I’d try to focus on what you want from your future and start putting this person behind you. One step at a time. X

TinselAngel · 15/06/2025 19:25

midlandhold · 15/06/2025 18:52

Thank you. I will take a look. Yes it’s desperately needed but I understand it’s a time consuming thing to run! It’s quite shocking to see how many women have been out through this.

It’s vetting users that would take a long time, as well as moderating it.

I’ve had the bones of a forum set up behind the website for a while but never managed to solve that problem.

i have to deal with people fishing for my details all the time already. I think a forum would be subject to attempted infiltration by our actual exes, men like them, their supporters, and general nosy parkers. Weeding all that out would not be straight forward.

It’s a shame how many things I’ve not been able to do due to lack of time. That’s where our exes have the advantage though, they have all the time in the world while ours is taken up with keeping our children sane.

TinselAngel · 15/06/2025 19:27

I should add there are support groups for women who stay or who are prepared to buy into gender ideology.

midlandhold · 15/06/2025 19:31

RowsOfFlowers · 15/06/2025 19:24

This is quite terrifying isn’t it?! I wonder what the hell the appeal of dressing like a 20 year old woman is, so what they get off on it? It’s gross and creepy. To think they wanted us to share bathrooms and changing facilities with these kinds of people?!
I understand it was a big chunk of time in your life, and you’ve every right to mourn it and feel disappointed that it feels wasted, but I’d try to focus on what you want from your future and start putting this person behind you. One step at a time. X

Yes it is. However he is on agreement with me that they do not belong in female sports or spaces. I blame porn for all this AGP business.

It’s going to take time I know. I mean I will never forgive or forget but I will get better xx

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RowsOfFlowers · 15/06/2025 19:35

midlandhold · 15/06/2025 19:31

Yes it is. However he is on agreement with me that they do not belong in female sports or spaces. I blame porn for all this AGP business.

It’s going to take time I know. I mean I will never forgive or forget but I will get better xx

You know what, I agree with you. I think it escalates and now it’s a sickness.

RowsOfFlowers · 15/06/2025 19:35

And yes, you absolutely will heal from this x

midlandhold · 15/06/2025 19:39

TinselAngel · 15/06/2025 19:25

It’s vetting users that would take a long time, as well as moderating it.

I’ve had the bones of a forum set up behind the website for a while but never managed to solve that problem.

i have to deal with people fishing for my details all the time already. I think a forum would be subject to attempted infiltration by our actual exes, men like them, their supporters, and general nosy parkers. Weeding all that out would not be straight forward.

It’s a shame how many things I’ve not been able to do due to lack of time. That’s where our exes have the advantage though, they have all the time in the world while ours is taken up with keeping our children sane.

I can imagine. I just find it so shocking that we can not have a safe space. These people are unhinged. I’m lucky in the fact that he is not like that well not yet anyway. He doesn’t agree with men using women spaces or being in women’s sports. He is a triathlete. He is aware and I make sure he is very aware of the struggle. I don’t have kids with him. I had 2 miscarriages. Which as awful as it may sound it seems it was just as well. I can’t imagine how awful it is for the children affected by these mentally ill men.

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midlandhold · 15/06/2025 19:40

TinselAngel · 15/06/2025 19:27

I should add there are support groups for women who stay or who are prepared to buy into gender ideology.

Ha there’s a surprise! (Not a surprise) makes me so angry.

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midlandhold · 15/06/2025 19:41

RowsOfFlowers · 15/06/2025 19:35

And yes, you absolutely will heal from this x

Xx

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midlandhold · 15/06/2025 19:41

RowsOfFlowers · 15/06/2025 19:35

You know what, I agree with you. I think it escalates and now it’s a sickness.

Definitely a mental illness.

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TinselAngel · 15/06/2025 19:53

midlandhold · 15/06/2025 19:39

I can imagine. I just find it so shocking that we can not have a safe space. These people are unhinged. I’m lucky in the fact that he is not like that well not yet anyway. He doesn’t agree with men using women spaces or being in women’s sports. He is a triathlete. He is aware and I make sure he is very aware of the struggle. I don’t have kids with him. I had 2 miscarriages. Which as awful as it may sound it seems it was just as well. I can’t imagine how awful it is for the children affected by these mentally ill men.

It won’t be much longer before he’s all in.

MyKindLimeCrow · 15/06/2025 21:19

It might be possible to do a private space by requiring people to send a photo ID and then using AI to verify their identity. I have seen it on some sites where you turn your head slowly to the left and to the right.

The only issue would be if a stbx/ex passed really well but that doesn't happen very often. One thing they usually can't fake is the voice so that could come into play as well.

Also charging a bit would keep some people out as well.

There are private groups on FB for transwidows.

MyKindLimeCrow · 15/06/2025 21:21

https://ourpath.org/ourpath_podcast/s2-ep-11-the-cis-spouse-bill-of-rights/

This is from 2019 I think.

I know her and she has since realized that her ex was insisting on being "just a cross dresser" but started taking low doses of testosterone blockers and estrogen after they moved in together. So was transing in secret for most of their time together.

S2 Ep 11: The Cis-Spouse Bill of Rights

Guest: Helen Fitzgibbons What’s the “right” way to respond when your spouse comes out as transgender? Cis-Spouses often hear plenty of opinions on the matter, especially from people who have not experienced the gender transition of a partner. Family me...

https://ourpath.org/ourpath_podcast/s2-ep-11-the-cis-spouse-bill-of-rights

MyKindLimeCrow · 15/06/2025 21:40

Actually there are other ways to keep out spouses and stbxs and exes and people who just want to argue but I'm not going to go into detail about it.

I'm working on a project to maybe make an app for straight spouses and there is room to do a very tightly locked down, highly moderated private section for transwidows. There are some AI programs that could assist as well.

TinselAngel · 15/06/2025 21:41

MyKindLimeCrow · 15/06/2025 21:19

It might be possible to do a private space by requiring people to send a photo ID and then using AI to verify their identity. I have seen it on some sites where you turn your head slowly to the left and to the right.

The only issue would be if a stbx/ex passed really well but that doesn't happen very often. One thing they usually can't fake is the voice so that could come into play as well.

Also charging a bit would keep some people out as well.

There are private groups on FB for transwidows.

I don’t need tips on how to do it. I don’t have the time.

MyKindLimeCrow · 15/06/2025 21:43

TinselAngel · 15/06/2025 21:41

I don’t need tips on how to do it. I don’t have the time.

I'm thinking out loud, trying to see if people are interested pretty much.

midlandhold · 15/06/2025 21:49

MyKindLimeCrow · 15/06/2025 21:19

It might be possible to do a private space by requiring people to send a photo ID and then using AI to verify their identity. I have seen it on some sites where you turn your head slowly to the left and to the right.

The only issue would be if a stbx/ex passed really well but that doesn't happen very often. One thing they usually can't fake is the voice so that could come into play as well.

Also charging a bit would keep some people out as well.

There are private groups on FB for transwidows.

Do you know the name of the closed Facebook groups? I have tried searching and found loads for people wanting to transition but not for women affected by it?

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MyKindLimeCrow · 15/06/2025 21:52

I PM'd you. They aren't searchable in order to keep TRAs, trolls, exes, stbxs, and the like out.

midlandhold · 15/06/2025 21:53

MyKindLimeCrow · 15/06/2025 21:21

https://ourpath.org/ourpath_podcast/s2-ep-11-the-cis-spouse-bill-of-rights/

This is from 2019 I think.

I know her and she has since realized that her ex was insisting on being "just a cross dresser" but started taking low doses of testosterone blockers and estrogen after they moved in together. So was transing in secret for most of their time together.

Oh my god how truly awful for her. Will give it a listen. thank you

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