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Why can’t I get over this one?

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Liftmyselfupagain · 26/05/2025 01:09

I met a guy through a project a needed help with a few years ago, someone gave me his name. Over the course of about 6 months then met a couple of times in my home to discuss the project. I was newly separated. We hit it off instantly in a sort of familiar way. Didn’t notice until later that he called in more than he needed to (admitted to that later), I was a bit in survival mode but was very relaxed in his company.

He kept in touch asking me if I’d like to do various activities, honestly didn’t think much of it, wasn’t in that headspace. Then we had a bit more of getting to know eachother, a little intimacy and 2 months in he told me his ex had been in touch and that she needed his help for one of her kids (not his). Whatever didn’t think much of it. But we keep in touch seeing eachother platonically but there was always a very strong vibe. It felt too blurred and every now and then I would chime in with the fact that it didn’t feel right to meet up, I insisted she knew, didn’t want to be an OW friend or whatever and didn’t want to deceive another woman, even though it was outwardly innocent.

Lots of gestures and thoughtfulness. She came up in conversation one or twice and I asked what his deal was and he said he didn’t know if he loved her or was addicted to her. Gave him a very wide birth. I wa going through my own stuff too re exH. Got texts on my birthday and given a gift, one particularly romantic gesture followed by soon after (a stunning evening he had set up) too close for comfort so i didn’t follow up. It felt v wrong. He then got in touch a few months later, wanted to call over, I was busy but suspected he wanted someone to chat to so just chatted on phone and left it at that. Then absolutely randomly bumped into him and had a quick coffee. A few months later out of the blue, around festivities another text from him, easy excuse to text and wanted to catch up but it just felt wrong and like the cycle would start again. So let it slide, said hi but didn’t take up the invite, and noticed a month or so later he must have deleted my number.

the problem is I completely fell for him, adored spending time with him, it was always special, lovely comfortable silence and also lots of fun and lots to chat about. 4 months ago from deleted number I can only assume. I still miss him so much. I am tired of it. It all went on over two years.

I guess he may have deleted my number as I wasnt prepared to continue being in touch when it was clearly more than just friends and I’m not that sort of person and also knowing his character it would have been so that he wouldn’t be able to get in touch with me.

Gutted though. I know he was never mine, tried to push feelings aside. But I just miss spending time with him so much. Would love to bump into him as it would be humiliating reaching out if he did deleted my number. He had a few things of mine, one or two of them I asked for a good while ago, gave him the option to drop them somewhere but he never did even though he knew I wanted them.sad I know I still expect him to arrive on my doorstep one day with them, silly.

Cant get over him and it’s driving me nuts.

any help. Really fell for him. Was anything genuine or did he just give me the runaround for fun.

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Liftmyselfupagain · 26/05/2025 09:25

Apooogies if I am coming off confusing. I liked him a lot, couldn’t have been happier then when I was with him, the closer we got the more uncomfortable I got as I knew she was firmly in the picture (albeit what appeared to be rocky). I couldn’t figure out his motives and he was somewhat evasive. When I was voice things he would get obviously agitated and said once the he was tired of feeling guilty all the time.

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CatWithAGreenHat · 26/05/2025 09:33

I’m sorry but the way i read the situation is:

  • he still had relationship with his ex when getting involved with you. His comment about not being sure if he’s addicted to her confirms that.
  • he was with her and she did not know about you - so you was right in feeling like you’re being the OW
  • i’d be inclined to think that ex’s kid is actually his. Otherwise he’d feel no obligation to help
  • he loved care free time with you (presumably returning home to ex and kid afterwards)
  • he deleted your number because he either decided he’s with ‘ex’ properly, got found out having emotional affair with you, got bored because he realised it’s going nowhere physically with you or he found someone else to mess about. Take your pick.

Draw a line under this experience. It doesn’t matter what it was. It was chaos and going nowhere.

Liftmyselfupagain · 26/05/2025 09:40

CatWithAGreenHat · 26/05/2025 09:33

I’m sorry but the way i read the situation is:

  • he still had relationship with his ex when getting involved with you. His comment about not being sure if he’s addicted to her confirms that.
  • he was with her and she did not know about you - so you was right in feeling like you’re being the OW
  • i’d be inclined to think that ex’s kid is actually his. Otherwise he’d feel no obligation to help
  • he loved care free time with you (presumably returning home to ex and kid afterwards)
  • he deleted your number because he either decided he’s with ‘ex’ properly, got found out having emotional affair with you, got bored because he realised it’s going nowhere physically with you or he found someone else to mess about. Take your pick.

Draw a line under this experience. It doesn’t matter what it was. It was chaos and going nowhere.

Thank you. Yes that probably sums it up.

No the kids certainly isn’t his. However the rest was my take on it. Except for the physical id say he knew that early on, I totally pulled back but we were in touch for a year after that (granted he tried to kiss me twice).

But yes, I think you’re entirely correct otherwise. Good to read it.

to the point how do I move on - its been four months and I miss him a lot, even as a friend. I think I was trying to friendship route but when it was clearly more I backed away.

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Liftmyselfupagain · 26/05/2025 09:49

Of course it would be great to see him. But feel like I’d be making a tit of myself. But can’t get over the fact he treated me so casually especially in the end.

Crap timing for me, just when I was trying to get back on my feet. And he still has my stuff, which is either total lack of care is respect or a thing he gets to keep that he knows I want.

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category12 · 26/05/2025 09:52

They were probably on and off because he's a big old cheat.

You're better off out of it, OP.

Let it go.
Write off your stuff, buy new.
Date new people.

Liftmyselfupagain · 26/05/2025 10:18

Anyone else, what would you do. Just leave it and stay away.

It is hard when you know that you got a long so well and that you genuinely miss the friendship.

And at the same time you want to tell the F U for treating me that way and putting me in an impossible situation over and over again and that I was going to be the only loser.

I know should've walked for good at the start.

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SugarPlumpFairyCakes · 26/05/2025 10:22

Get your stuff back though. I wouldn't let that slide.

TammyJones · 26/05/2025 10:31

category12 · 26/05/2025 09:52

They were probably on and off because he's a big old cheat.

You're better off out of it, OP.

Let it go.
Write off your stuff, buy new.
Date new people.

I had one like this , in my early twenties.
went on for several years ( what I waste of time).
Thought he must really love me - no he was just a user.
Im sure it would still be going on now - every time he was at a loose end.
You deserve more.
it hurts but you need to move on.

Liftmyselfupagain · 26/05/2025 10:31

SugarPlumpFairyCakes · 26/05/2025 10:22

Get your stuff back though. I wouldn't let that slide.

How would you go about this?

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User27563 · 26/05/2025 10:33

He sounds a nightmare tbh. Keeping people hanging on, being unclear about status with them, I expect he blocked you because you weren't going along with everything and he wasn't getting what he wanted (uncommitted fun)

Imagine if you'd been in a "proper" relationship with him, you would not have been able to trust him.

TammyJones · 26/05/2025 10:44

User27563 · 26/05/2025 10:33

He sounds a nightmare tbh. Keeping people hanging on, being unclear about status with them, I expect he blocked you because you weren't going along with everything and he wasn't getting what he wanted (uncommitted fun)

Imagine if you'd been in a "proper" relationship with him, you would not have been able to trust him.

Exactly

He was after sex.
You had self respect and put in boundaries.
It took me a while to get to that stage.
Funny when I did …..he was completely thrown and totally confused….
A few years later I had a call from him hoping to call round -, I was deeply tempted, to let him call round, as I was happily 6 months pregnant
his face would have been a picture.
But then I thought , no, that wouldn’t put him off.
I handed the phone to my partner -
He hung up and rung again ( probably to make sure it was the right number)
So gave the phone to my partner again

Genegeniehunt · 26/05/2025 10:45

Hes not your friend. Friends dont have sex. Please stop lying to yourself you dont want his friendship back you want a relationship with him. But he doesnt want one with you or he would be with you. Men are simple creatures. If he wanted to he would. No need to tie yourself in knots hes just not that into you. Sorry if this is harsh but its true. Ive made excuses for fickle men before and its not a good path to go down. I hope you meet someone not already involved and can forget about this complete waster x

Liftmyselfupagain · 26/05/2025 10:50

Thanks ladies, yes was just shady. And I really wanted him not to be.

If I reach out for my stuff it is obvious I am trying to make contact, so will just leave it.

I just want to forget out him and thought I would have by now.

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Liftmyselfupagain · 26/05/2025 10:51

TammyJones · 26/05/2025 10:44

Exactly

He was after sex.
You had self respect and put in boundaries.
It took me a while to get to that stage.
Funny when I did …..he was completely thrown and totally confused….
A few years later I had a call from him hoping to call round -, I was deeply tempted, to let him call round, as I was happily 6 months pregnant
his face would have been a picture.
But then I thought , no, that wouldn’t put him off.
I handed the phone to my partner -
He hung up and rung again ( probably to make sure it was the right number)
So gave the phone to my partner again

I totally get that - the pregnancy wouldn't put him off!

I wish I could just hate him or see him for what he is.

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TammyJones · 26/05/2025 10:58

@Genegeniehunt
well said.
Also meant to add - yes men are very simple creatures.
I have 3 sons and dh, and they really are that transparent
If he wanted to be with you he would….
In my case (and in my defence) by focusing on an unavailable’ man, it meant I wasn’t putting myself out there, being vulnerable and getting hurt. (Of course it does have the opposite effect - wrecks your self esteem. )
So , to reiterate, RUN - the hills are that way >>>>>>>

4forksache · 26/05/2025 11:03

He enjoyed having you liking him. He enjoyed the chase. He’s essentially a cheat and would have gone further if you’d let him. He ghosted you when he got bored or when he knew you wouldn’t give him what he wanted.

Sorry but next time make your expectations and boundaries clear.

TammyJones · 26/05/2025 11:05

Liftmyselfupagain · 26/05/2025 10:51

I totally get that - the pregnancy wouldn't put him off!

I wish I could just hate him or see him for what he is.

Hate only hurts you.
But yes you do need to knock him off his pedestal.
For me , it some years later, when I heard he’d left his wife and 3 little kids - spoke to him briefly- and his reasons were weak.
I just couldn’t understand as I would have lived with devil , rather than leave my kids.
His wife was lovely by the way and he decided he wanted more freedom ( what a donkey )

4forksache · 26/05/2025 11:05

Find your anger and get your stuff back. Tell him to drop it off in a safe place by x time or you will knock on the door to collect it personally.

That should encourage him to return it without a fuss. 😃

4forksache · 26/05/2025 11:08

As in he won’t want his girlfriend finding out

Liftmyselfupagain · 26/05/2025 11:10

4forksache · 26/05/2025 11:03

He enjoyed having you liking him. He enjoyed the chase. He’s essentially a cheat and would have gone further if you’d let him. He ghosted you when he got bored or when he knew you wouldn’t give him what he wanted.

Sorry but next time make your expectations and boundaries clear.

I totally know it could have gone further. Plenty of examples but instead I just said right I’m off home now.

Hes an extremely attractive bloke, so I I he was baffled by this.

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TammyJones · 26/05/2025 11:12

Liftmyselfupagain · 26/05/2025 11:10

I totally know it could have gone further. Plenty of examples but instead I just said right I’m off home now.

Hes an extremely attractive bloke, so I I he was baffled by this.

Yep, he totally would be - such simple creatures.

BlahBlahBittyBlah · 26/05/2025 11:13

Kindly, if he wanted to be with you he would be. He was enjoying having his cake and eating it and you did the right thing to push him away. In reality he would have only brought you pain. Let go of the fantasy and move on x

Liftmyselfupagain · 26/05/2025 11:15

He already brought me pain I suppose.

Such a flipping waste. And it pisses me off - its all just a game to him and he gets to carry on. Anything I do makes me look like a crazy bit%ch - some old story.

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CatWithAGreenHat · 26/05/2025 11:17

Liftmyselfupagain · 26/05/2025 10:18

Anyone else, what would you do. Just leave it and stay away.

It is hard when you know that you got a long so well and that you genuinely miss the friendship.

And at the same time you want to tell the F U for treating me that way and putting me in an impossible situation over and over again and that I was going to be the only loser.

I know should've walked for good at the start.

Edited

But it wasn’t that good, it was confusing and messed with your mind. You was very recently out of relationship, longing for connection and closeness, understandably so.

Do nothing. Write off things you left at his, they are gone. It’s only things. Replace them. I reckon you will need a week for every month you spent with him to get out of this so 2 years, 24 months, that’s 24 weeks there. Give yourself 6 months. It’s not an exact science but you need to direct your energy elsewhere and he will slowly fade away from your mind. Take your learnings from this relationship and apply them later when you meet someone new, anyone that causes so much up and down and uncertainty is a definite no. It shouldn’t be this complicated.

Liftmyselfupagain · 26/05/2025 11:20

Thank you that is wonderful advice. Just give it more time. xx

I know he hasn't blocked me but more likely deleted my number. I reckon it was a reactive punishment of some sorts, I'll show her.

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