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My shyness has deprived me of a family of my own

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user1471867483 · 25/05/2025 23:10

I'm now 54 and I've always shied away from people/social interactions. I'm single too and I only have and have always had, one family member, being my mother. She said to me, 'it's such a shame you're like the way you are as I certainly wouldn't have wanted to miss out on marriage and having a child'. Well, I've missed out! 🤷 Secretly, it's what I wanted but I guess lack of confidence has prevented me.
Should I get counselling? She said I'll end up totally alone 😞.

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TrolleySong · 27/05/2025 07:50

user1471867483 · 27/05/2025 07:15

Because she has no one aside from me and I feel duty bound to look after her. I feel everything is in such a tangled mess as well. I'm going to look for a counsellor today on the bacp.co.uk website.

Again, thank you all for your most helpful replies. I truly appreciate them more than you'll realise 🥰. I'm reading them over and over xx

Why does she have no one apart from you, though? Could it be that her critical, undermining, negative behaviour has pushed people away, hence her having no friends? Meaning that she’s done her best to make sure you don’t have any either, so you can stay shackled to her side till she dies? Likewise no relationships that might have ended in marriage and you leaving her?

I appreciate that you feel a duty towards her, but that doesn’t mean you need to live with her, or tolerate her undermining you for her own ends.

user1471867483 · 27/05/2025 07:58

TrolleySong · 27/05/2025 07:50

Why does she have no one apart from you, though? Could it be that her critical, undermining, negative behaviour has pushed people away, hence her having no friends? Meaning that she’s done her best to make sure you don’t have any either, so you can stay shackled to her side till she dies? Likewise no relationships that might have ended in marriage and you leaving her?

I appreciate that you feel a duty towards her, but that doesn’t mean you need to live with her, or tolerate her undermining you for her own ends.

You're so right.

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AttilaTheMeerkat · 27/05/2025 09:38

I would suggest you read Toxic parents by Susan forward. You’ve been well and truly emotionally stifled by your mother.

user1471867483 · 27/05/2025 10:00

AttilaTheMeerkat · 27/05/2025 09:38

I would suggest you read Toxic parents by Susan forward. You’ve been well and truly emotionally stifled by your mother.

Thank you. I've seen it on ebay and will purchase. Maybe my shyness isn't what I have to deal with after all!

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Comedycook · 27/05/2025 10:18

Can I say op I think your shyness might be a bit of a red herring here. I'm quite shy...I think lots of people are. It's the job of our parents though to help us step out of our comfort zone. I think maybe it sounds like your mother wanted to keep you close for her own reasons but what she should have been doing was helping you spread your wings. That's part of being a good parent.... helping you find the confidence to navigate the sometimes daunting world of relationships, friendships, socialising etc.

kellygoeswest · 28/05/2025 16:38

Sorry if I missed it, but do you still live with your mum? I have very overbearing/controlling parents and moving out was the best thing I ever did. It's still not easy but it has given me some relief.

SeventeenClovesOfGarlic · 28/05/2025 16:56

I freed myself of a toxic mother like this.
She indoctrinated me to thinking I was responsible for her, she had no one else (rightly so, because she's vile), wehh, etc.
After CBT I realised she's the problem, and not my problem. I opted out entirely and now see the woman a handful of times a year, purely out of obligation.
Any attempt at her theatrics gets dismissed, and I grey rock her.
Honestly can't recommend it highly enough. Life is bliss.

Having a parent like this causes so much damage, but you can choose to put a stop to it.

Bimblebombles · 28/05/2025 16:57

There is a lovely lady in my wider family that had no children of her own but met my uncle quite late in life and she became an excellent step mother to his children and has a very hands on role with their grandchildren now. Her life is full, she owns a small shop and she lives in a lovely house with a garden that she tends. She may have had thoughts like you at one stage and now look at her life. She is very much part of our family. Family can come in lots of guises, not always the traditional route.

hattie43 · 28/05/2025 17:17

I think other posters are right . Your mother has manipulated you to being her sole companion / carer for later as she has no one else . She has brainwashed you into feeling such a sense of duty to her that you are sacrificing your own life . Your mother won’t be here forever and who will you have unless you make changes . Going into our latter more vulnerable years alone is not a comfort . Use tonight to take stock and tomorrow start making those changes . Good luck , you deserve happiness .

user1471867483 · 28/05/2025 21:50

Thank you so much everyone ❤️. I'll start with counselling. I love your replies btw xx
She just shouted at me again. An old lady's birthday was last week (I've known her since I was a child and she's been good). Mum shouted at me because I got her a 25p but pretty birthday card. She shouted that I should've at least spent £3 on it. I can do no right 😥

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Agapornis · 28/05/2025 22:05

What a cow, after that remark she wouldn't be allowed to sign any joint card I bought!

I'm sure you'll benefit so much from a therapist. If the first one doesn't feel right, try another, or several. Good on you for investing in yourself.

user1471867483 · 28/05/2025 22:12

Pastyfaced · 26/05/2025 22:38

I’ve got a feeling that if you strive towards your goals OP good things will happen to you within say 1-2 years from now at most. ❤️ These good things will be in addition to the goals themselves and quite unexpectedly good, iyswim.

I dunno… just a feeling ❤️

That is so lovely. I hope it happens xx

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Onthefence87 · 28/05/2025 22:41

user1471867483 · 25/05/2025 23:10

I'm now 54 and I've always shied away from people/social interactions. I'm single too and I only have and have always had, one family member, being my mother. She said to me, 'it's such a shame you're like the way you are as I certainly wouldn't have wanted to miss out on marriage and having a child'. Well, I've missed out! 🤷 Secretly, it's what I wanted but I guess lack of confidence has prevented me.
Should I get counselling? She said I'll end up totally alone 😞.

Sorry that sounds hard 😢 Not too late for a partner and children wise perhaps you could look into fostering or adoption if you felt you could suit it? (Although it isn't easy doing either, so best to get some therapy to work through any of your own difficulties first)

user1471867483 · 29/05/2025 06:56

Bimblebombles · 28/05/2025 16:57

There is a lovely lady in my wider family that had no children of her own but met my uncle quite late in life and she became an excellent step mother to his children and has a very hands on role with their grandchildren now. Her life is full, she owns a small shop and she lives in a lovely house with a garden that she tends. She may have had thoughts like you at one stage and now look at her life. She is very much part of our family. Family can come in lots of guises, not always the traditional route.

I'd love this to happen for me 🙏. Lovely story.

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user1471867483 · 29/05/2025 06:59

hattie43 · 28/05/2025 17:17

I think other posters are right . Your mother has manipulated you to being her sole companion / carer for later as she has no one else . She has brainwashed you into feeling such a sense of duty to her that you are sacrificing your own life . Your mother won’t be here forever and who will you have unless you make changes . Going into our latter more vulnerable years alone is not a comfort . Use tonight to take stock and tomorrow start making those changes . Good luck , you deserve happiness .

Thank you for your sound advice. I really appreciate it. She keeps telling me everyone hates me and always has hated me. She reminds me how I hated her boyfriends (this is because they were rude to me when I was a child) and that no one will ever want me. "Who'd want you"?, she'll say.

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AttilaTheMeerkat · 29/05/2025 07:09

She is merely projecting her own self onto you, many toxic parents do this.

I sincerely hope you go on to free yourself from the emotional and physical shackles she has put you in under the guises of fear obligation and guilt. She does not feel anything like that in how she has treated you; she’s forced you and otherwise manipulated you into being her sole audience and companion.

user1471867483 · 29/05/2025 07:17

AttilaTheMeerkat · 29/05/2025 07:09

She is merely projecting her own self onto you, many toxic parents do this.

I sincerely hope you go on to free yourself from the emotional and physical shackles she has put you in under the guises of fear obligation and guilt. She does not feel anything like that in how she has treated you; she’s forced you and otherwise manipulated you into being her sole audience and companion.

My gosh, that is so well identified. A lot of the time I don't even realise it myself.

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MintChocCat · 29/05/2025 07:17

also there’s a difference between being shy and having social anxiety.

I can be a bit shy, but I’m married, have friends…

Goldusty · 29/05/2025 07:18

RedBeech · 26/05/2025 00:53

OP, I think you need to separate 'shy' from 'unable to allow myself to get what I want from life'. They are not the same thing. They are separate issues.

The main thing seems to be that you'd like to change your behaviour sufficiently that you can change the outcome of your life.

I think it would help you to look up some information on people pleasing. People pleasers have normally been coached by a needy and controlling parent to be very obedient and to mask any emotions of their own as the parent is the only one allowed to show emotion. Does that sound familiar?

People pleasers can find it hard to make friends. As you say, they bend over backwards for people and yet are shunned. Most people don't like people pleasers. It sounds counterintuitive but it's true. They feel under pressure to return excessive favours and that the friendship is transactional or that they can't see the real person behind the mask of 'I'm so nice, why don't you like me?' I used to be a people pleaser. I stopped and people started liking me!

There are loads of ways you can have a fulfilling life at any age and it doesn't have to matter if you are naturally shy. You can make friends, have a romantic relationship. I know very happily married people who married for the first time in their fifties. You may be past child bearing age but you could end up with close step children or find fulfilment doing respite fostering etc. There are lots of possibilities. But you will need to work out what changes you need and are prepared to make, and how to be resilient in the face of inevitable disappointments along the way.

Excellent post

alteredimage · 29/05/2025 07:25

Random suggestion. Join the Ramblers. Walks will be listed near you, and you can just turn up. Talk to people if you want, or simply walk alone. (If the walk is challenging, I can’t walk and talk, and there are always a few people who seem happier not talking.) Stay for the pub after if it suits. At the very least you get time out in the open air, and the benefit of being in a group. And who knows. After a few outings you may find yourself talking to companionable people, who you slowly get to know.

One tip is to contact the walk leader in advance saying you are planning to come along, in part because you are finding yourself isolated with an elderly mother. Walk leaders are volunteers and, in my experience, kind people.

FWIW someone I know did this. She was a similar age and unexpectedly widowed whilst living abroad, so found herself living alone and in a new area. Turning up was a big deal, but the walk leader could not have been kinder and a year later she has a good group of likeminded friends….and is fitter.

user1471867483 · 29/05/2025 08:03

MintChocCat · 29/05/2025 07:17

also there’s a difference between being shy and having social anxiety.

I can be a bit shy, but I’m married, have friends…

I have have both.

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user1471867483 · 29/05/2025 08:04

alteredimage · 29/05/2025 07:25

Random suggestion. Join the Ramblers. Walks will be listed near you, and you can just turn up. Talk to people if you want, or simply walk alone. (If the walk is challenging, I can’t walk and talk, and there are always a few people who seem happier not talking.) Stay for the pub after if it suits. At the very least you get time out in the open air, and the benefit of being in a group. And who knows. After a few outings you may find yourself talking to companionable people, who you slowly get to know.

One tip is to contact the walk leader in advance saying you are planning to come along, in part because you are finding yourself isolated with an elderly mother. Walk leaders are volunteers and, in my experience, kind people.

FWIW someone I know did this. She was a similar age and unexpectedly widowed whilst living abroad, so found herself living alone and in a new area. Turning up was a big deal, but the walk leader could not have been kinder and a year later she has a good group of likeminded friends….and is fitter.

Thank you. I love this idea. I'll look into it.

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TrolleySong · 29/05/2025 08:33

user1471867483 · 29/05/2025 08:03

I have have both.

Genuinely, OP, I don’t think it’s possible to know this with any certainty. It seems very clear that you’ve been suppressed, undermined, continually criticised. and presented to yourself as unattractive, dull and a spare part by the only other person in your life for many decades. You’ve been warped out of shape by a hostile environment, created by someone very damaged, with her own agenda of keeping you by her side by convincing you no one else would want you.

Who knows what the real you is like? I can’t imagine that socialising when someone who is supposed to love you is telling you everyone else in the world thinks you’re awful is easy. Imagine if people in fact thought you were interesting and were enjoying meeting you?

mumonthehill · 29/05/2025 08:40

Having a mother that is critical of everything you do even when you do something nice is like playing a game when you do not know the rules. It completely takes away self esteem and confidence. Have counselling, then be brave and try a few new things that might give you joy. Build up social interactions slowly and remember that you are a good person.

Starlight7080 · 29/05/2025 08:49

You need to move away from your mother . She sounds like she has noone as she is hard to get along with . And has used you as company and probably a servant .
Nothing will change if you don't change something .
I bet you would love your own place. That you can make in to a lovely home . A place you don't have to worry about being criticised.
You don't owe your mother your life . You have given her 54 years