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Help me figure out how to tell him

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TwinklingPotato · 19/05/2025 11:52

Hello!

Let me preface this by saying I'm fairly sure I have Stockholm Syndrome, at least on a lower level. My friend showed me some stuff on it and yep, it makes sense..

I have been with my partner almost 13 years. We are unmarried, no children. He owns our home outright (inherited).

I moved in quickly, after a few months. I'd lived with him around 6 months, living off of my savings and his. We had fun, we laughed, it was new and exciting. He then said he didn't feel I was bringing enough to the table, that I should get a job, which I did. I have worked ever since (albeit in various positions climbing a ladder I didn't even realise I was on!). I now earn a good wage for my career.

He is (was) self employed. He stopped working with any regularity within a year of me moving in. The work dried up to some extent, he stopped looking, too. He said he would do the house up (it was very old fashioned!).

For the last three years, he's submitted a zero tax return, before that, he earned less than £2k per year (and that was largely the Covid payments he got, which shows how little he earned before that). I have paid 100% of the bills, food, gifts, all and any purchases for a decade.

He's done the bathroom (not 100% there but more or less), and 70% of the living room. He's also created two spaces for himself in two of the 3 bedrooms. One is a workshop, the other is a room for his hobby.

He is now working on his hobby, because he can, and because I have indulged him. He hopes it will make him some money (it's creative). Since 202 it hasn't, but it has cost (me) a lot in equipment, subscriptions, and software.

He sees no need to get any kind of paid employment. Because if he did, that would mean he would spend the weekends working on the house because he'd be out working all week, and then there would be no point being in a relationship.

Lots of this has come to a head for me recently, and I am really resenting it. I really don't enjoy my current position and would like to leave. doing so would mean a pay cut and he's not a fan of that. He'd rather I was unhappy because it supports us both really well.

I have been looking at houses to rent and have found one, and I really want to go for it.

However, I am racked with guilt and uncertainty.

  • Is it better to stay where I am, and keep paying for everything for us both, but not have to worry about paying rent. Though I can't decorate or hang pictures etc., it's very much his house.
  • I'm worried about him and how he will survive. He's in his 50s, so my sane mind knows he'll be ok and that he's not my responsibility, but my attached mind is concerned and putting him before me.
  • I've sacrificed marriage and having children to sustain this relationship for this long. It started with promises that went nowhere, and now I am childless and in my 40s.
  • If I don't praise him he gets angry, if I ask him to consider getting a job, he says that would mean the end of the relationship.

I know the right thing to do is go, I just don't know how to. I don't know what to say to him. I don't want to hurt him or throw accusations at him. I've allowed the situation, too.

How should I word it, what shall I say? When? Should I wait until I have somewhere to go, or tell him before? Or should I stay?

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Imsososohungry · 31/05/2025 17:33

When I left my exdp, I told him the day before we left. He didn't take it well but mostly because I'd taken some money out of our joint account for the deposit, he was more upset about that than me leaving. He also told our ds who didn't know in a horrible way, just to hurt me.
I got my parents to come over while I filled up a van with our stuff, I would suggest that if possible you have someone there when you tell him. Would your manager or someone else come with you to help when you pack up your last bits and bobs? You could tell him then arrange for someone to come around in half an hour to pick you up.
To be honest it doesn't really matter how you tell him or what you tell him, the goal is to get yourself out of there so if you need to pacify him a bit to make it easier, do it. He doesn't deserve you worrying about his feelings, he certainly isn't worrying about yours but I can understand you feeling apprehensive. Just say whatever sits right with you.

JaneWithTheUntidyHouse · 31/05/2025 17:55

Can you just go to work like normal on moving day and go home to the new place and ring him to end it from a place of safety?

TENSsion · 31/05/2025 18:00

You can tell him

“Well, as per your own words, the relationship is over because I’m sick… of you”

imfae · 31/05/2025 19:58

Well done OP , the best of wishes for your new home . If you have an ikea near you & a car you can get a lot of household stuff there , including a bed , duvet , household stuff . They will also do delivery but would take longer . I think the duvet sizes are slightly different to ours .

SoManyDandelions · 31/05/2025 20:03

Enjoy every minute in your new home OP 💐

Hollietree · 31/05/2025 20:05

TwinklingPotato · 30/05/2025 19:23

Thanks again everyone.

No, I'm not moving today, I want to have a least a bed when I go, I need to feel happy enough to sleep comfortably, I don't want to have any unfounded regret. I am fully mentally ready though, I realise that when I picked up the key!

I've got the front door key, the back door and window keys are in the property. I'm so, so pleased and so, so ready.

Photo taken on a non-discript piece of kitchen roll!

Oh @TwinklingPotato I saw this photo and just burst into tears! I’m really not an emotional person or a cryer! Sat on the sofa watching the football with my husband and his two friends and now they want to know what made me spontaneously burst into happy tears!

TwinklingPotato · 31/05/2025 21:13

Thank you so much everyone, for the support and advice.

My plan is to go in a week, work have been really good, I can take a few early days and have some TOIL, too. I've booked a couple of days off 9/10 June to have some furniture delivered, but before that arrives I've got myself a sun lounger (easy to disguise as a purchase for "home", I saw it when we were out and said I need a new one that lays flat).

Need to get cutlery, a kettle, some bedding, other than that I'll pick stuff up next weekend when I'm in!

I'm really excited now, my guilt hasn't returned, either x

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TwinklingPotato · 31/05/2025 21:14

Hollietree · 31/05/2025 20:05

Oh @TwinklingPotato I saw this photo and just burst into tears! I’m really not an emotional person or a cryer! Sat on the sofa watching the football with my husband and his two friends and now they want to know what made me spontaneously burst into happy tears!

This is so sweet! I bet they think you're mad and I'm madder! ♥️

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Incakewetrust · 01/06/2025 00:16

Oh I’m so excited for you!! I’m keeping my fingers and toes crossed that it all goes smoothly.
Also I know you may not think it necessary but please please notify the police that you’re leaving an abusive relationship and tell them what day and time so that they can be on alert if anything does go south.
be safe xx

TammyJones · 01/06/2025 07:23

Good update about the guilt.

MumOnBus · 01/06/2025 07:27

Fantastic! Don't forget to notify the utility companies that you no longer live at that address, and make sure all future bills go to his name only. Otherwise it will be your credit score at risk if he doesn't pay his own consumption.
Like many others, both here in MN and in your RL, I'm rooting for you and your new beginnings!
Keep us posted x

PineConeOrDogPoo · 01/06/2025 13:47

Rooting for you OP

FuckoffeeBeforeCoffee · 01/06/2025 14:43

TwinklingPotato · 30/05/2025 19:23

Thanks again everyone.

No, I'm not moving today, I want to have a least a bed when I go, I need to feel happy enough to sleep comfortably, I don't want to have any unfounded regret. I am fully mentally ready though, I realise that when I picked up the key!

I've got the front door key, the back door and window keys are in the property. I'm so, so pleased and so, so ready.

Photo taken on a non-discript piece of kitchen roll!

Best photo I’ve seen on Mumsnet.

TwinklingPotato · 02/06/2025 10:15

Well, I'm feeling more and more certain of what I'm doing, the sadness for him is creeping in again, I looked at him yesterday and my emotionally driven brain thought he's not such a bad person, just trying to find his way. I need to bash her down each time she pops up, because it's just not true. He has used me, and will continue to use me until I have nothing to give. He told his mum he has "orchestrated" himself a life in which he can follow his dreams, that "we" have no money worries, and that "he" has gotten himself to where he is by playing the game..

My lovely colleagues have brought me some wonderful gifts in today, which has made me so, so happy!

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FamBae · 02/06/2025 10:51

Just read my post every time you feel wobbly and feel sorry for him, because he clearly doesn't give a flying F**k about you Twinks.

I used to do all of the cooking, too. that stopped earlier in the year as he thought I was potentially doing something to his food to make him ill. He even went to the GP for a stool sample and blood test..

Another thing I just remembered - I was nominated for an award in my profession two years running. First year we went, I didn't win but had a nice evening (he didn't), second year I bought a dress and paid for our tickets, then a week before he said there was no point going as I wouldn't win anyway (dressed it up as I was "too good" to win it but I read between the lines, he was being spiteful and jealous), so I'd have to go alone. I had no one else who could come (also lost touch with all of my old friends since we met, no social media etc*), so we didn't go..

My salary has paid for all of the furniture, his "hobby" equipment, including a new MacBook Pro (with some money gifted to me by my grandma), countless other items at over £500 each. I buy all of the food, all of the treats, family gifts, heck, if he gets me a birthday or Christmas gift that comes out of my salary, too! And to cap it all off, he's not even doing the house up.
I'm living in a place with nothing on the floor (just the floorboards that are the base layer), no working shower (there is a bath), an oven that was installed in the 80s and the front glass panel has fallen off, one working radiator, no wardrobe (just a chest of drawers), and I can't put pictures or trinkets up, it doesn't work with how he imagines the house is going to be, he doesn't want clutter.

He was up playing guitar until almost midnight Sunday, knowing I had to get up for work Monday. Is he just thoughtless, or is it on purpose (I suspect the latter..).

He's just told me "I worked for someone else for 20 years, I want to spend the next 20 years on my music and creativity", this was in response to a friend asking to chat with him about a business idea and me saying "I wonder what it is, I'm intrigued". It's just proof he has no intention of actively seeking an income. He said he's not money oriented, and that we've got things right because I leave work at 3:30 (I start at 7:30!) and can park in the city centre for free.
It leaves me a bit cold to be honest.

Today we went out. On the drive to where we were going he started talking to me about what men need (sex, basically), and how of its not forthcoming there had to be something worth sacrificing it for. He said he still has desire, but right now it's not for me (because all he gets from me is the income, I've not been affectionate for months, and we haven't been physically in almost as long). I said I'd lost my desire to have sex, and that a big reason, though not the only one, was the pressure I felt and being the sole earner. I asked what would happen if I got too sick to work, and he said that the relationship would be over, as he couldn't nurse someone when he was getting nothing back.

He's not interested in working, he actually said today that he didn't have to. I said I resent going to a job that 70% of the time I really don't enjoy, he said "it allows us to live the way we do".

He has used me, and will continue to use me until I have nothing to give. He told his mum he has "orchestrated" himself a life in which he can follow his dreams, that "we" have no money worries, and that "he" has gotten himself to where he is by playing the game..

Uricon2 · 02/06/2025 10:53

He told his mum he has "orchestrated" himself a life in which he can follow his dreams, that "we" have no money worries, and that "he" has gotten himself to where he is by playing the game..

I would be so ashamed if I were her, but then I would call him out and perhaps that hasn't happened enough with him in his life. Until now.

He's set you on fire to keep himself warm @TwinklingPotato and you don't do that to people you love. Remind yourself of what he said about what would happen if you were unable to work, that he'd be gone (except it would be you going because it's his house) Imagine trying to find a new home while ill and unemployed. It would be horrible, but that's what would happen.

Incakewetrust · 02/06/2025 11:07

Oh my god!! He actually makes my skin crawl. What a vile, disgusting piece of shit!!!
I cannot wait for you to leave!! Imagine how much more well off you’ll be and with so much less stress!
Freedom is so close now!

TwinklingPotato · 02/06/2025 11:38

Thank you, all.

Seeing it all written out is so impactful. How have I let myself live like this? How did I not notice and leave sooner? Where did "I" go?!

I don't suppose anyone can help with Facebook? I had an account, deactivated it in 2013, not long after I met DP (because FB is for cheating and sneaking...). I know the password and email address (I still have the email address), but I don't remember what my phone number was then and even if I did, it was PAYG and I couldn't access it, but FB want to send a code to it to reopen the account (not doing it now, just looking into it). Do you think I can contact FB and jump through their hoops to reopen it? All of my old friends and photos are on there. everything and everyone I let go of for him...

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thedancingclown · 02/06/2025 12:24

told his mum he has "orchestrated" himself a life in which he can follow his dreams, that "we" have no money worries, and that "he" has gotten himself to where he is by playing the game..

so he has but grooming you into staying with him and paying for it all. He is exactly where he wants to be and I have no doubt he is perfectly happy, doing his hobby and having you pay for it all (playing the game). His mum appears to be complicit. Is he an only child by any chance?

sooner you ditch this man the better. I suspect you will feel a huge sense of relief once you have ditched him.

TwinklingPotato · 02/06/2025 12:25

@thedancingclown oddly his mum has said to me on more than one occasion to make sure I have some money behind me. It makes sense now why she did!

Not an only child, no - one of three.. The middle one!

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thedancingclown · 02/06/2025 12:27

TwinklingPotato · 02/06/2025 11:38

Thank you, all.

Seeing it all written out is so impactful. How have I let myself live like this? How did I not notice and leave sooner? Where did "I" go?!

I don't suppose anyone can help with Facebook? I had an account, deactivated it in 2013, not long after I met DP (because FB is for cheating and sneaking...). I know the password and email address (I still have the email address), but I don't remember what my phone number was then and even if I did, it was PAYG and I couldn't access it, but FB want to send a code to it to reopen the account (not doing it now, just looking into it). Do you think I can contact FB and jump through their hoops to reopen it? All of my old friends and photos are on there. everything and everyone I let go of for him...

For Facebook reactivation try the following - it might be possible

https://m.facebook.com/help/132243923516844?locale2=en_GB

NigellaWannabe1 · 02/06/2025 12:41

It’s not fair to direct any anger towards his mum. She’s not responsible for her son’s attitude at his age, surely?

Mingenious · 02/06/2025 12:42

TwinklingPotato · 02/06/2025 11:38

Thank you, all.

Seeing it all written out is so impactful. How have I let myself live like this? How did I not notice and leave sooner? Where did "I" go?!

I don't suppose anyone can help with Facebook? I had an account, deactivated it in 2013, not long after I met DP (because FB is for cheating and sneaking...). I know the password and email address (I still have the email address), but I don't remember what my phone number was then and even if I did, it was PAYG and I couldn't access it, but FB want to send a code to it to reopen the account (not doing it now, just looking into it). Do you think I can contact FB and jump through their hoops to reopen it? All of my old friends and photos are on there. everything and everyone I let go of for him...

Ignore this - I can see you said deactivated it! It depends if you deactivated or deleted it. You can deactivate and reactivate it at a later date but deletion is permanent.

You should be able to get it back if your email address is the same.

MinnieGirl · 02/06/2025 13:07

TwinklingPotato · 02/06/2025 11:38

Thank you, all.

Seeing it all written out is so impactful. How have I let myself live like this? How did I not notice and leave sooner? Where did "I" go?!

I don't suppose anyone can help with Facebook? I had an account, deactivated it in 2013, not long after I met DP (because FB is for cheating and sneaking...). I know the password and email address (I still have the email address), but I don't remember what my phone number was then and even if I did, it was PAYG and I couldn't access it, but FB want to send a code to it to reopen the account (not doing it now, just looking into it). Do you think I can contact FB and jump through their hoops to reopen it? All of my old friends and photos are on there. everything and everyone I let go of for him...

I would be wary of Facebook as he may be able to find you…
Facebook aren’t the easiest to deal with but you could try talking to them. If you can’t, start a new account and try and find your friends.

SugarPlumpFairyCakes · 02/06/2025 13:27

Just start a new account on FB. Block him if he's on it.

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