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Am I right to be upset?

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OtterStone · 23/04/2025 11:48

My partner has been amazing ever since I met her. She's smart, funny and appeared to be honest and respectful. She promised she would never cheat or lie and during a recent conversation she told me how much she respects me. However...

Easter Sunday i'm at home with a bit of a cold. I've bought an Easter egg for my partner's daugher and my partner is aware I have it. My partner texts me to say she feels like a bad girlfriend because she hadn't been to see me or look after me while i'd been sick. I message back and say i'd be happy to see her but she replies back saying she needs to do housework and look after her dogs. I understand she has a busy life so think no more of it. A couple of hours later a friend of mine rings to see if I fancy going around for a coffee so I agree and ring my partner to let her know that i'm heading over to his house (just in case she was going to turn up and surprise me). She doesn't answer her phone so I grab the Easter egg and decide that as I have to drive passed my partner's house to get to my friend's house, i'll stop by with the Easter egg. As I get onto my partner's road she rings me back and I can hear she's out somewhere so I ask her where she is to which she replies "I'm out". I say "Oh, where are you?", to which she replies, "I've decided to nip out". I'm wondering whether I should park up and wait or if she's going to be out for ages but it also feels like she's trying to avoid telling me where she is. At this point i'm now driving past her house and can see her car parked outside. I ask, "Where are you" and she replies "I'm at the (named) pub, can I ring you back later". I agree and hang up as I know the pub is nowhere near walking distance to her house so someone has been to pick her up which means she's going to be out for a while. At this point, i'm expecting her to text me at some point and tell me she was out with one of the lads from work who she's good friends with. Instead she texts me kicking off for checking up on her. She doesn't tell me who she's with and over the next few hours she's so angry with me. Her reaction is so bizarre that I know there's clearly something going on that she thinks will upset me. The next day she texts me and tells me that she met up with an ex but that she was never physically anywhere near him and that she was sat the other side and end of a long pub bench. She tells me that it was a very last minute thing and that they met at the pub. I tell her that I know that's not true because i'd seen her car outside her house. I asked her why she arranged to meet her ex behind my back on a day we should have been together with her daughter and she said she felt she had to be respectful to her ex and wanted to meet him to tell him that she was in a relationship with me!!! She's been in other relationships since this ex so this just struck me as bizarre.

We met up a bit later on and she tells me that after she rang me from the pub she got upset and went home, however, by some unbelievable crazy timing her daughter walks in and without prompting asks if I know that they were at the pub for ages yesterday with the (named) ex and then went to McDonalds. During our conversation a few issues were brought up and she tells me she will now make it clear that we are in a relationship to everyone...something she'd told me she'd already done. All my friends, family and colleagues know! She told me she can't change her WhatsApp photo to a photo of me and her as it will upset the ex she met up with, this became another talking point. She hasn't been with him for years!! She told me she would arrange to meet with him again so she can tell him we're together and I was gobsmacked that she was suggesting this again. I said it has nothing to do with him but if she felt she had to tell him then she could always just text him. She told me she would ring him instead but he would be very angry!

I'm so upset because I trusted her. I trusted her to do right by me and it just doesn't feel that way. I feel disrespected. I feel like rather than us being a family on Easter Sunday, she instead was a family with her ex. She's apologised, said she gets it and said that she knows she'll need to rebuild the trust and will make more of an effort as my girlfriend. She told me she'd change her WhatsApp photo to a photo of me and her (which she hasn't done) and that she would ring me every night before we go to sleep which I find quite nice as I do miss her when she's not around. She's not done that either.

There have been other issues with exes e.g. we're on a date and she sends photos of where we are to a different ex because it's where he always used to take her. Another ex has got upset because she doesn't call him every day anymore. Then there was a lad in a pub garden but that's a different story!

I don't want any grand gestures, I just want to go back to knowing that when she tells me she's doing ABC, she's actually doing ABC. I want to trust that she respects me enough to do right by me. The trust has been broken and I don't know if it can be repaired. Does anyone have any advice?

OP posts:
canthavethatonethen · 23/04/2025 11:59

You say yourself that the trust has been broken. Once that happens, that doubt will always be there. She's done nothing to reassure you, so of course you are right to be upset. Is there any way back from this? Sorry, but probably not.

thaisweetchill · 23/04/2025 11:59

My advice would be to break this off, she’s clearly not over the many ex’s she has or she’s more bothered about showing off her new relationship to them which is very strange indeed.

This is only one instance you know about, I imagine there is more.

PeggyMitchellsCameo · 23/04/2025 12:25

You are wasting your time.
She’s a liar and for whatever reasons, is keeping you at arms length and messing about meeting up with an ex, and messaging another.
Also, back off in terms of suggesting Easter or a holiday should be family time with her and her daughter. You are not her daughter’s family.
This woman is not amazing and supportive and wonderful. She’s deceitful and for whatever reasons does not want your relationship fully out in the open.
She hasn’t been amazing ever since you met her. She’s been lying to you and has been caught. That trust can’t be repaired I am afraid.
You sound like you are the one doing the running, and as for the phone calls every night, that sounds a bit demanding.
She sounds like her whole life is wrapped in relationships she shouldn’t be anywhere near. Very poor boundaries.
You need to drop the rope and leave her to it. And next time take it slowly. Nobody is amazing all the time. Take the pressure off yourself and the other person.

Dwells · 23/04/2025 12:27

If someone feels they need to explicitly say they'll never cheat or lie at the start is really a red flag, should it not go without saying?

MaybeMrs · 23/04/2025 12:30

Get rid. Nothing more to add than that. She doesn't sound very nice at all.

Zippidydoodah · 23/04/2025 12:31

You’re wasting your time, I’m afraid. You deserve better.

BabyOrca · 23/04/2025 12:33

She's a player

Sulu17 · 23/04/2025 12:35

Get rid, what a lot of fuss - she's not worth it.

curious79 · 23/04/2025 12:38

How bad will it have to get before you tell yourself you like and respect yourself enough to not put up with this?

This is not normal behaviour. She's being controlling and manipulative (out and out gaslighting) trying to make it seem like you're the one with the problem.

Reflect on what you think a proper partnership should look like, assess her against those criteria, and then - when she fails, because she will - kick her into touch and delete her number. Don't become one of the many exes she is clearly stringing along

Tassys · 23/04/2025 12:41

Ah OP, could it be any clearer?
She's a lying cheating dishonest piece of muck.
You are wasting your titime.
Dump her by text if you have any self respect.

heroinechic · 23/04/2025 12:48

My god this sounds utterly draining. You are the victim of her lying here but also sound like hard work. Who cares what her WhatsApp photo is. Why did you need to call her and let her know where you were going when she’d already let you know she wouldn’t be seeing you? Then when she doesn’t answer, you drive to her house. It sounds suffocating!

Hastentoadd · 23/04/2025 12:50

OtterStone · 23/04/2025 11:48

My partner has been amazing ever since I met her. She's smart, funny and appeared to be honest and respectful. She promised she would never cheat or lie and during a recent conversation she told me how much she respects me. However...

Easter Sunday i'm at home with a bit of a cold. I've bought an Easter egg for my partner's daugher and my partner is aware I have it. My partner texts me to say she feels like a bad girlfriend because she hadn't been to see me or look after me while i'd been sick. I message back and say i'd be happy to see her but she replies back saying she needs to do housework and look after her dogs. I understand she has a busy life so think no more of it. A couple of hours later a friend of mine rings to see if I fancy going around for a coffee so I agree and ring my partner to let her know that i'm heading over to his house (just in case she was going to turn up and surprise me). She doesn't answer her phone so I grab the Easter egg and decide that as I have to drive passed my partner's house to get to my friend's house, i'll stop by with the Easter egg. As I get onto my partner's road she rings me back and I can hear she's out somewhere so I ask her where she is to which she replies "I'm out". I say "Oh, where are you?", to which she replies, "I've decided to nip out". I'm wondering whether I should park up and wait or if she's going to be out for ages but it also feels like she's trying to avoid telling me where she is. At this point i'm now driving past her house and can see her car parked outside. I ask, "Where are you" and she replies "I'm at the (named) pub, can I ring you back later". I agree and hang up as I know the pub is nowhere near walking distance to her house so someone has been to pick her up which means she's going to be out for a while. At this point, i'm expecting her to text me at some point and tell me she was out with one of the lads from work who she's good friends with. Instead she texts me kicking off for checking up on her. She doesn't tell me who she's with and over the next few hours she's so angry with me. Her reaction is so bizarre that I know there's clearly something going on that she thinks will upset me. The next day she texts me and tells me that she met up with an ex but that she was never physically anywhere near him and that she was sat the other side and end of a long pub bench. She tells me that it was a very last minute thing and that they met at the pub. I tell her that I know that's not true because i'd seen her car outside her house. I asked her why she arranged to meet her ex behind my back on a day we should have been together with her daughter and she said she felt she had to be respectful to her ex and wanted to meet him to tell him that she was in a relationship with me!!! She's been in other relationships since this ex so this just struck me as bizarre.

We met up a bit later on and she tells me that after she rang me from the pub she got upset and went home, however, by some unbelievable crazy timing her daughter walks in and without prompting asks if I know that they were at the pub for ages yesterday with the (named) ex and then went to McDonalds. During our conversation a few issues were brought up and she tells me she will now make it clear that we are in a relationship to everyone...something she'd told me she'd already done. All my friends, family and colleagues know! She told me she can't change her WhatsApp photo to a photo of me and her as it will upset the ex she met up with, this became another talking point. She hasn't been with him for years!! She told me she would arrange to meet with him again so she can tell him we're together and I was gobsmacked that she was suggesting this again. I said it has nothing to do with him but if she felt she had to tell him then she could always just text him. She told me she would ring him instead but he would be very angry!

I'm so upset because I trusted her. I trusted her to do right by me and it just doesn't feel that way. I feel disrespected. I feel like rather than us being a family on Easter Sunday, she instead was a family with her ex. She's apologised, said she gets it and said that she knows she'll need to rebuild the trust and will make more of an effort as my girlfriend. She told me she'd change her WhatsApp photo to a photo of me and her (which she hasn't done) and that she would ring me every night before we go to sleep which I find quite nice as I do miss her when she's not around. She's not done that either.

There have been other issues with exes e.g. we're on a date and she sends photos of where we are to a different ex because it's where he always used to take her. Another ex has got upset because she doesn't call him every day anymore. Then there was a lad in a pub garden but that's a different story!

I don't want any grand gestures, I just want to go back to knowing that when she tells me she's doing ABC, she's actually doing ABC. I want to trust that she respects me enough to do right by me. The trust has been broken and I don't know if it can be repaired. Does anyone have any advice?

Is the ex that she met in the pub the father of her child?

Hastentoadd · 23/04/2025 12:53

BabyOrca · 23/04/2025 12:33

She's a player

Agree, she wants as many men running after her as she possibly can,
Shes also a liar and untrustworthy, Is she really worth all the hassle and can you see yourselves together in the long term?

I personally wouldn’t bother with her

Horses7 · 23/04/2025 13:01

She’s just not that into you but says enough nice things to keep you hanging on in case the other(s) don’t work out.
She lies to you constantly and obviously has no respect for you either.
Stop falling for it and walk away from this toxic relationship.

category12 · 23/04/2025 13:05

Oh she likes to spin a lot of plates, doesn't she?

An ex of years is going to be angry that she has a boyfriend 😐 Riiiight.

Do yourself a favour and add yourself to her list of exes. But don't be one that she can call up and get involved in her shenanigans again. Be like a proper ex , with no contact.

Whynotaxthisyear · 23/04/2025 13:05

This sounds a hopeless situation OP, she’s not giving her current relationship as much priority as her previous ones. Call it a day.

OtterStone · 23/04/2025 13:06

Hastentoadd · 23/04/2025 12:50

Is the ex that she met in the pub the father of her child?

No. If that was the case I still would have had an issue around the lies as she could be completely open about that, however, it would be completely understandable that her daughter gets to spend it with her parents.

OP posts:
Dery · 23/04/2025 13:15

“Dwells · Today 12:27

If someone feels they need to explicitly say they'll never cheat or lie at the start is really a red flag, should it not go without saying?”

@Dwells - I had exactly the same thought. I’ve never told anyone that I wasn’t going to cheat and lie because - as you say - for most people, that’s a given. Also saying that she “respects” OP again sounds a bit odd.

@OtterStone - sorry you’re going through this. Tbh, she sounds like a headfuck with messy boundaries all round. She may be fond of you but she sounds unreliable and untrustworthy. She took advantage of you being laid up to go to the pub and then McDonalds with an ex and then was evasive about it. Tells you all you need to know, I think.

OtterStone · 23/04/2025 13:20

heroinechic · 23/04/2025 12:48

My god this sounds utterly draining. You are the victim of her lying here but also sound like hard work. Who cares what her WhatsApp photo is. Why did you need to call her and let her know where you were going when she’d already let you know she wouldn’t be seeing you? Then when she doesn’t answer, you drive to her house. It sounds suffocating!

I don't care about what her WhatsApp photo is but if you're going to tell me that you can't change it to a photo of us because it will upset an ex, then I have a problem.

I called her out of respect because she may have decided to change her mind and come and see me unannounced (as she had done a couple of days earlier) and I wouldn't have been there.

I was driving past the front of her house to get to my friends house. It's the only way to get to my friends house without adding an additional 20 mins to the drive. I wasn't going out of my way to stop by, I was quite literally on a straight road.

OP posts:
EveryKneeShallBow · 23/04/2025 13:23

Respect yourself more and dump her. She’s a player, gaslighting you and has main character syndrome. You don’t need the drama and deserve so much better.

Hastentoadd · 23/04/2025 13:24

OtterStone · 23/04/2025 13:20

I don't care about what her WhatsApp photo is but if you're going to tell me that you can't change it to a photo of us because it will upset an ex, then I have a problem.

I called her out of respect because she may have decided to change her mind and come and see me unannounced (as she had done a couple of days earlier) and I wouldn't have been there.

I was driving past the front of her house to get to my friends house. It's the only way to get to my friends house without adding an additional 20 mins to the drive. I wasn't going out of my way to stop by, I was quite literally on a straight road.

Is the ex that she met single?
What about her other exes that she is in contact with, are they single aswell?

Is she trying to keep her options as open as possible?

OchreRaven · 23/04/2025 13:29

She’s not trustworthy. If she had messed up and lied to try and avoid drama she would be doing everything she could to make sure you felt secure now. She’s not. My take is she loves attention and wants to keep lots of guys interested on the side for an ego boost. You sound like a good guy, and too mature to play these stupid games.

OtterStone · 23/04/2025 13:30

Hastentoadd · 23/04/2025 13:24

Is the ex that she met single?
What about her other exes that she is in contact with, are they single aswell?

Is she trying to keep her options as open as possible?

As far as she was aware the ex she met was single. However, when she met him he apparently told her that he has started to see someone very recently. Despite saying she was going to tell him that me and her were together, she never told him.

The ex she sent the photos to isn't single. His girlfriend hates my partner and so their conversations appear to be hidden from his girlfriend. Whilst that's his responsibility, I wouldn't want to be part of that.

The other ex who wanted daily calls is single.

Her words would have me believe that she doesn't want to keep her options open but her actions seem to be telling a different story.

OP posts:
Pandimoanymum · 23/04/2025 13:37

Utterly bizarre behaviour from her. Nobody needs to be contacting their exes in this way, let alone being so concerned with what the exes think or feel about her current partner, or indeed anything she does in her life.
Likely they aren’t exes and she’s still having some sort of relationship with one or more of them. Or she likes having the attention and drama of having exes and partners feeling jealous over her.
Either way she needs to be dumped.

Hastentoadd · 23/04/2025 13:42

OtterStone · 23/04/2025 13:30

As far as she was aware the ex she met was single. However, when she met him he apparently told her that he has started to see someone very recently. Despite saying she was going to tell him that me and her were together, she never told him.

The ex she sent the photos to isn't single. His girlfriend hates my partner and so their conversations appear to be hidden from his girlfriend. Whilst that's his responsibility, I wouldn't want to be part of that.

The other ex who wanted daily calls is single.

Her words would have me believe that she doesn't want to keep her options open but her actions seem to be telling a different story.

She’s either keeping her options open or just craves other men’s attention….neither are good