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Am I right to be upset?

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OtterStone · 23/04/2025 11:48

My partner has been amazing ever since I met her. She's smart, funny and appeared to be honest and respectful. She promised she would never cheat or lie and during a recent conversation she told me how much she respects me. However...

Easter Sunday i'm at home with a bit of a cold. I've bought an Easter egg for my partner's daugher and my partner is aware I have it. My partner texts me to say she feels like a bad girlfriend because she hadn't been to see me or look after me while i'd been sick. I message back and say i'd be happy to see her but she replies back saying she needs to do housework and look after her dogs. I understand she has a busy life so think no more of it. A couple of hours later a friend of mine rings to see if I fancy going around for a coffee so I agree and ring my partner to let her know that i'm heading over to his house (just in case she was going to turn up and surprise me). She doesn't answer her phone so I grab the Easter egg and decide that as I have to drive passed my partner's house to get to my friend's house, i'll stop by with the Easter egg. As I get onto my partner's road she rings me back and I can hear she's out somewhere so I ask her where she is to which she replies "I'm out". I say "Oh, where are you?", to which she replies, "I've decided to nip out". I'm wondering whether I should park up and wait or if she's going to be out for ages but it also feels like she's trying to avoid telling me where she is. At this point i'm now driving past her house and can see her car parked outside. I ask, "Where are you" and she replies "I'm at the (named) pub, can I ring you back later". I agree and hang up as I know the pub is nowhere near walking distance to her house so someone has been to pick her up which means she's going to be out for a while. At this point, i'm expecting her to text me at some point and tell me she was out with one of the lads from work who she's good friends with. Instead she texts me kicking off for checking up on her. She doesn't tell me who she's with and over the next few hours she's so angry with me. Her reaction is so bizarre that I know there's clearly something going on that she thinks will upset me. The next day she texts me and tells me that she met up with an ex but that she was never physically anywhere near him and that she was sat the other side and end of a long pub bench. She tells me that it was a very last minute thing and that they met at the pub. I tell her that I know that's not true because i'd seen her car outside her house. I asked her why she arranged to meet her ex behind my back on a day we should have been together with her daughter and she said she felt she had to be respectful to her ex and wanted to meet him to tell him that she was in a relationship with me!!! She's been in other relationships since this ex so this just struck me as bizarre.

We met up a bit later on and she tells me that after she rang me from the pub she got upset and went home, however, by some unbelievable crazy timing her daughter walks in and without prompting asks if I know that they were at the pub for ages yesterday with the (named) ex and then went to McDonalds. During our conversation a few issues were brought up and she tells me she will now make it clear that we are in a relationship to everyone...something she'd told me she'd already done. All my friends, family and colleagues know! She told me she can't change her WhatsApp photo to a photo of me and her as it will upset the ex she met up with, this became another talking point. She hasn't been with him for years!! She told me she would arrange to meet with him again so she can tell him we're together and I was gobsmacked that she was suggesting this again. I said it has nothing to do with him but if she felt she had to tell him then she could always just text him. She told me she would ring him instead but he would be very angry!

I'm so upset because I trusted her. I trusted her to do right by me and it just doesn't feel that way. I feel disrespected. I feel like rather than us being a family on Easter Sunday, she instead was a family with her ex. She's apologised, said she gets it and said that she knows she'll need to rebuild the trust and will make more of an effort as my girlfriend. She told me she'd change her WhatsApp photo to a photo of me and her (which she hasn't done) and that she would ring me every night before we go to sleep which I find quite nice as I do miss her when she's not around. She's not done that either.

There have been other issues with exes e.g. we're on a date and she sends photos of where we are to a different ex because it's where he always used to take her. Another ex has got upset because she doesn't call him every day anymore. Then there was a lad in a pub garden but that's a different story!

I don't want any grand gestures, I just want to go back to knowing that when she tells me she's doing ABC, she's actually doing ABC. I want to trust that she respects me enough to do right by me. The trust has been broken and I don't know if it can be repaired. Does anyone have any advice?

OP posts:
bigboykitty · 23/04/2025 13:44

You don't trust her and that's because she's sneaky and untrustworthy. Ignore the words and focus on the actions. I think you know what to do. You just need to trust your own gut.

ukathleticscoach · 23/04/2025 13:48

Block her No - not even worth the courtesy of a tx

MarkingBad · 23/04/2025 13:50

OP please make a clean break, this woman seems to like keeping exes hanging around that's never ever a good thing, she will try to co opt you into this situation too so you are and will be one of many to give her an ego boost. I'd put money down that she wouldn't be keen for you to be keeping your relationships with exes a secret from her.

Anyone doing anything secretively to their nearest and dearest doesn't care for them, she's keeping messages quiet for another ex, she'll probably be keeping messages from you too.

Don't invest any more time or trouble, she's never going to settle, not for anyone despite all the promises. There are plenty of good honest single women without the many exes hanging around in tow.

GoldDuster · 23/04/2025 14:04

She told me she'd change her WhatsApp photo to a photo of me and her (which she hasn't done) and that she would ring me every night before we go to sleep which I find quite nice

This is really just papering over the cracks and not really anything other than a teenage placation.

End it, before you make each other very miserable.

RealEagle · 23/04/2025 14:24

Bin her

Darkgreendarkbark · 23/04/2025 16:26

It all sounds very dramatic, but what stood out to me was your repeated mentions of how you should have spent Easter with her and her daughter, together "as a family". Why? You don't even live together. How old is her daughter? (And who looks after her when her mum is at the pub?).

Tassys · 23/04/2025 17:09

She's a player that is keeping her options open.
Forget her words, actions are what count, always.

savethatkitty · 23/04/2025 17:22

This sounds exhausting. She's definitely keeping her options open. She likes all the attention.

ChristmasFluff · 23/04/2025 17:54

She's a liar and a cheater. After all, who but a murderer would say 'I promise I'll never kill you'?

All the rest is just her muddying the waters to mess with your head so you can't see what is right in front of you.

Fiddlerontherooftop · 23/04/2025 18:09

Cut your losses, you can’t turn a showgirl into a wifey.

80s · 23/04/2025 18:28

Are you female and her first girlfriend, so that she's feeling odd about her exes seeing she's swapped sexes and thinks they might get weird about it? How long have you known each other?

MarkingBad · 23/04/2025 18:32

80s · 23/04/2025 18:28

Are you female and her first girlfriend, so that she's feeling odd about her exes seeing she's swapped sexes and thinks they might get weird about it? How long have you known each other?

The sex of the OP doesn't matter, this woman keeps her exes hanging around and keeps secrets.

None of it is good.

Mrsknowitall · 23/04/2025 18:47

She’s got a lot of ex’s doesn’t she lol do yourself a favour and join the club, find a hassle free relationship

Nodlikeyouwerelistening · 23/04/2025 19:10

Yeah… no. Far, far too much drama. There’s no trust and she has no respect for you. You are being massively played.
She’ll say she’ll do x, y and z but none of it actually undoes her behaviour. Posting fake, sappy updates everyone sees through to “prove” she’s honest about being in a relationship is childish bullsh*t and you know it. Besides knowing someone is in a relationship doesn’t deter plenty of people let’s be real, especially when they are getting the green light from her.
Actually can’t believe she won’t change her WhatsApp picture so as not to upset the ex! Unresolved issues, much!

OtterStone · 15/05/2025 11:27

UPDATE

So she changed her WhatsApp photo to me and her but only after she contacted that ex from the pub again to tell him she was in a relationship with me. She told me she'd told him that she wouldn't be speaking to him anymore and that she was only worried about upsetting him because he's lent her money since they split up. However, she's found an excuse to contact him again. She tells me she needs to get her daughter's toys back (she's not been with him for years and he's not the father) so she'll need to contact him again. The WhatsApp photo changed again, no doubt to prevent him getting upset. Again, I couldn't care what her photo is but if you're changing it to prevent upsetting your ex then it's just bizarre...especially when you feel the need to contact your ex to tell him you're in a new relationship!

I was at her house one night and her doorbell rang. She asked me to answer the door for her and a different ex is at the front door (she's not been with him for 9 months). He was there to drop off a DVD (she didn't know he was coming) and when I opened the door I actually saw him break in front of me and I actually felt sorry for him. It was like he thought they still stood a chance and when I asked her why he would think that she told me they used to go to parties, theatre and days out together after they split up. She works with him and she'd also told me she'd been helping him with work as he'd been having a tough time. I asked her if she could see how she may have misled him by effectively still 'dating' him but she said she was just being friendly.

She has recently told me that another bloke wants to come around to her house for a brew, chat and to collect his hat that he left behind months ago. Apparently he is just a friend but they went out for dinner one night, went back to her house and continued drinking and listening to music and then he "tried to kiss" her. She says she stopped him in his tracks but then a couple of weeks later she invited him to a night out with a couple of her friends. She messages him frequently. I told her this makes me feel uncomfortable as it feels like they were dating but she tells me they weren't. I said it feels like dating, which probably feels like dating to him and that perhaps she had unintentionally misled him. However, she is adamant that she hasn't misled him and it's clear that they are just friends. She now wants me to meet him so she can show how she behaves around him so that I can be comfortable with her meeting with him when i'm not around!

Yesterday, she told me she plans on going out with a few guys from work. Just her and what currently looks like 4 blokes. She tells me they're all friends and that she would like me to pick her up at the end of the night. I don't know what to think...there's a part of me that wants to trust it's completely platonic but my mates are telling me that they find it bizarre and they wouldn't be happy with it. They, like me, think it's unlikely all of these blokes see her in a completely platonic way.

I know I should have walked away after Easter Sunday but she convinced me it was more innocent that it looked.

OP posts:
category12 · 15/05/2025 12:31

You're living for the drama and turbulence of it all, don't you think? I don't see how you're ever going to feel secure with this woman.

Other women are available.

She'll fill your shoes in no time.

strongswan · 15/05/2025 12:46

Walk away, she has no respect for you, just wants the attention.

MarkingBad · 15/05/2025 13:20

So sorry OP you've tried and she keeps misleading you.

Your friends are right, the set up is weird, she is misleading a bundle of men on a daily basis. What on earth are you getting out of this?

AndorTheRelentless · 15/05/2025 13:23

heroinechic · 23/04/2025 12:48

My god this sounds utterly draining. You are the victim of her lying here but also sound like hard work. Who cares what her WhatsApp photo is. Why did you need to call her and let her know where you were going when she’d already let you know she wouldn’t be seeing you? Then when she doesn’t answer, you drive to her house. It sounds suffocating!

"draining" is the word

I ran out of energy just reading that, what you must be feeling to be actually going through it, i cant even fathom.

OP - you can do better, you deserve someone who is 100% for you - go find them

OchreRaven · 15/05/2025 15:15

So her pattern of behaviour is she leads men on, makes them think she’s in a relationship with them and then gaslights them (and her latest bf) into believing they were only ever platonic friends but keeps them around for attention.

The best predictor of future behaviour is past behaviour.

One of these days you will be collecting something from her house, only to find another man opening the door.

S0j0urn4r · 15/05/2025 15:18

Taxi!

OtterStone · 15/05/2025 15:22

category12 · 15/05/2025 12:31

You're living for the drama and turbulence of it all, don't you think? I don't see how you're ever going to feel secure with this woman.

Other women are available.

She'll fill your shoes in no time.

I hate the drama and turbulence. I quite literally just want a peaceful life and she keeps telling me that's what she wants to. It's just that her actions do not meet up with her words.

OP posts:
MarkingBad · 15/05/2025 15:28

OtterStone · 15/05/2025 15:22

I hate the drama and turbulence. I quite literally just want a peaceful life and she keeps telling me that's what she wants to. It's just that her actions do not meet up with her words.

That's the important thing the actions.

What do you want and need from the relationship? Do you think your partner will be the one to fulfil your needs?

The only way to get out of the keep trying mindset is to know what you want and need, then realise your partner won't be the right person to do that

OtterStone · 15/05/2025 15:30

MarkingBad · 15/05/2025 13:20

So sorry OP you've tried and she keeps misleading you.

Your friends are right, the set up is weird, she is misleading a bundle of men on a daily basis. What on earth are you getting out of this?

That's the question i'm asking myself. Take away the issues with the exes and other men, she would tick all of my boxes. With them, however, it doesn't matter how much we laugh and enjoy the same things because it feels like it consumes the relationship.

I appreciate my friends advice but it's really good to get the advice of strangers because there's no feeling of needing to support me (although, you all are being kind in your answers to help me).

OP posts:
Hastentoadd · 15/05/2025 15:33

OtterStone · 15/05/2025 15:22

I hate the drama and turbulence. I quite literally just want a peaceful life and she keeps telling me that's what she wants to. It's just that her actions do not meet up with her words.

She sounds very hungry for any male attention,
I personally wouldn’t bother with her as it’s unlikely she will change