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Husband Doesn’t Talk

91 replies

Sj26 · 21/04/2025 15:45

Does anyone else have a husband that doesn’t talk or make conversation ever? We can be sat at home he doesn’t speak, on a 3 hour drive and just stares out window. He never starts a conversation and if I do I just get very short replies. After 15 years I’m really struggling with it now.

OP posts:
Curioushoney · 24/04/2025 08:08

NCForThatForumM · 24/04/2025 00:06

Nope. I hope it isn't noticable to them. I'm very chatty and friendly with them, they're a doddle to get on with. We have a fantastic relationship. All bantz and laughter.

If they ever asked I'd be 100% honest about everything, but I don't plan to bring it up.

The lack of insight in this post is disturbing

NCForThatForumM · 24/04/2025 08:24

Kattuccino · 24/04/2025 08:05

But if you think your wife's parents' communication style has negatively affected her (to the point where she can't hold a nice, friendly conversation with her husband) then surely you can see that the same will be happening to your DC?

Well it's not the same because I don't join in. My communication is 99.9% respectful and cheerful and friendly.

So instead of seeing both parents openly despising each other, as I suspect my wife did, they only see one, and they only see that if I engage with her which I avoid. That's still horrible, and I hear things she'd say back from the kids from time to time, but me leaving won't change her, it will jist remove the good example from the situation, leaving the bad.

IMHO, the only person who would win if I left would be me. (I could be wrong about that, of course, but that's my assessment.)

Curioushoney · 24/04/2025 08:26

@NCForThatForumM are you the poster that thinks all women are con artists who ensnare men in order to have a family and then withhold sex?

NCForThatForumM · 24/04/2025 08:27

Curioushoney · 24/04/2025 08:08

The lack of insight in this post is disturbing

Edited

Well I can't be sure, of course, but that's my assessment.

I think we're hijacking someone else's thread. I just piped up to offer an explanation of why someone might minimise talking to their partner, I wasn't intending to take over.

NCForThatForumM · 24/04/2025 08:29

Curioushoney · 24/04/2025 08:26

@NCForThatForumM are you the poster that thinks all women are con artists who ensnare men in order to have a family and then withhold sex?

Not all, but I'm sure it happens.

Currently there's a thread by a woman discussing marrying someone she's not very interested in for his wealth. How do we think that's going to turn out?

AttilaTheMeerkat · 24/04/2025 08:33

OP and NCForThatForumM

You are both staying currently for your own reasons, nothing to do with the children. Whose sake are you staying for really because it can be argued it is not theirs. Perhaps fear of the unknown, fear of these partners, financial concerns are at the heart of your respective paralysis; again nothing to do with the kids. It is precisely for their sake that the two of you should leave your respective marriages as you are both being abused within it. The only acceptable level of abuse in a relationship is none.

What do you want to teach your children about relationships and what are they learning here?. Living in mediocrity or worse burdens children with very confusing messages about relationships and happiness; it certainly instructs them that loving marriages and or partnerships are not their birthright.

You have a choice re your partners; your children do not. Make better choices with both you and they in mind. Divorce is not failure- living in unhappiness is failure.

Curioushoney · 24/04/2025 08:36

NCForThatForumM · 24/04/2025 08:29

Not all, but I'm sure it happens.

Currently there's a thread by a woman discussing marrying someone she's not very interested in for his wealth. How do we think that's going to turn out?

It is you
you’re on that particular thread three dozen times
and it’s all same theme

women are con artists and ensnare men to make families and then withhold sex

Curioushoney · 24/04/2025 08:38

NCForThatForumM · 24/04/2025 08:29

Not all, but I'm sure it happens.

Currently there's a thread by a woman discussing marrying someone she's not very interested in for his wealth. How do we think that's going to turn out?

So not you?

I think sonetimes they are conning and tricking.
I think some women know this stuff and deliberately don't mention it up front when it needs to be said. Some women say "Marriage won't change our relationship" when they know that's not the case at all. I think a vast number of men find a woman with the same interests and then commit and find the goalposts are moved.
Personally, I think women are typically so obsessed with commitment precisely because they want the situation to change. They know nobody would sign up to a life of misery so they want commitment ASAP so they can change to the life they actually want with some poor sap stuck with the new reality and no easy way out.
Also, libido mysteriously returns when TTC. 🤔 All of a sudden there's no need for spontaneity or being in the right mood, it's just back normal enthusiastic sex in every spare moment.
I genuinely think there is a con or a trick and I'd love to be convinced otherwise.

Morningwasbrokenbuthasnowbeenrepaired · 24/04/2025 12:41

@Curioushoney

No, I'm not.
I replied to the OP, who then asked me a question.
My post that you quoted is my answer.

Cloudface14 · 25/04/2025 16:29

Curioushoney · 24/04/2025 08:38

So not you?

I think sonetimes they are conning and tricking.
I think some women know this stuff and deliberately don't mention it up front when it needs to be said. Some women say "Marriage won't change our relationship" when they know that's not the case at all. I think a vast number of men find a woman with the same interests and then commit and find the goalposts are moved.
Personally, I think women are typically so obsessed with commitment precisely because they want the situation to change. They know nobody would sign up to a life of misery so they want commitment ASAP so they can change to the life they actually want with some poor sap stuck with the new reality and no easy way out.
Also, libido mysteriously returns when TTC. 🤔 All of a sudden there's no need for spontaneity or being in the right mood, it's just back normal enthusiastic sex in every spare moment.
I genuinely think there is a con or a trick and I'd love to be convinced otherwise.

bloody hell @NCForThatForumM that is a…. Disturbing view on women you have there

Maitri108 · 25/04/2025 20:53

Cloudface14 · 25/04/2025 16:29

bloody hell @NCForThatForumM that is a…. Disturbing view on women you have there

From the 'I have had this experience and met a woman like this, therefore ALL relationships and women are like this' school of thought.

ksksn10 · 25/04/2025 23:01

Gosh op this is my relationship too. When you say it’s changed you what do you mean? With me i feel like I’ve filled down, lost my spark.

Grimtastic · 26/04/2025 06:57

Although people are saying leave so you can demonstrate a good relationship by doing so you may end up exposing your child to his/her new toxic partner. Because if your ex meets another woman you no longer have any control over what they are being exposed to. Blended families, shared bedrooms, horrid exes, arguments, fights, abuse, poor communication etc. All of this is common (you even see it on MN) and without serious insight your ex is unlikely to change when they meet someone new. And if the new lady has three kids and a crap ex then a whole whirlwind of chaos may be coming their way. Then they have their own baby and it deteriorates further.

Okay they will have a safe haven with you at least 50% of the week. But the other 50% anything could be happening and you have no say at all.

As for conning and tricking - I think too many people con and trick. Cheating is conning and tricking too and in real life I know far more men who have cheated then women. However I don’t tar all men with the same brush as I also know some cracking loyal men.

@NCForThatForumM I have a friend saying similar to you, I think he has gone down a bit of a dark rabbit hole online about women. He also tries to avoid talking and is proud of the fact - sees it as masculine. His wife’s a shit, she cheated on him, it’s changed how I see her now. All her flaws jump out at me (the flaws I believe allowed her to cheat). She hasn’t addressed them, I dare say she’ll cheat again. He’s there for his child. But his attitude is making me start to look at him differently. I gave him the benefit of the doubt as I know PISD is common in victims of cheating but instead of counselling he is losing himself due to the rabbit hole. I’m on his side, she shat on him, I don't think cheating on your spouse is justifiable in any way, ever. I wouldn’t ever date someone who had cheated on their spouse. It’s really grim behaviour. But the rabbit hole he has gone down means he sees women very negatively. It’s a shame for him as I think he is losing himself. He will no doubt leave when his child is grown up (and I don’t blame him) I just hope he gets out of his rabbit hole.

I think it’s so important to look at someone’s personality traits pre marriage but we don’t get taught this. Do they regularly lie to others? How are they around others? Do they communicate easily? Etc.

Have you read John Gottmans work? ‘Seven secrets of making a marriage work’ is a brilliant book. Should be given as a wedding gift in my opinion! I dont think people take time to work on their marriage. They spend 30 minutes a day working out, 30 mins on insta or practicing something but expect their marriage to work fine for a lifetime. It’s also assumed if a marriage is good it just works. But we change over 25 years and things we experience affects us. Difficult births, teens, deaths, poor workplaces. Connection is so important. Gottman has other books too - another good one - I think it’s called 6 dates. It may help someone reading this thread.

ksksn10 · 26/04/2025 18:05

ksksn10 · 25/04/2025 23:01

Gosh op this is my relationship too. When you say it’s changed you what do you mean? With me i feel like I’ve filled down, lost my spark.

I meant dulled down but can’t seem to edit my comment.

SomethingFun · 26/04/2025 18:21

If anyone is reading this with a similar partner but no kids, no mortgage etc ffs run! Run anyway if you do have those things! It doesn’t get better. I genuinely don’t understand how you can love, marry and have children with someone who won’t even say hello to you or ask you how your day was. How do you fall in love with someone who has no interests, no interest in you and can’t make or take a joke? What’s to love? I cannot wrap my head around it.

notatinydancer · 27/04/2025 19:05

SomethingFun · 26/04/2025 18:21

If anyone is reading this with a similar partner but no kids, no mortgage etc ffs run! Run anyway if you do have those things! It doesn’t get better. I genuinely don’t understand how you can love, marry and have children with someone who won’t even say hello to you or ask you how your day was. How do you fall in love with someone who has no interests, no interest in you and can’t make or take a joke? What’s to love? I cannot wrap my head around it.

Absolutely.

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