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Disagreement about housing

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maoleis · 13/04/2025 19:59

I've lived with my partner (not married) for ten years. She's never seen the point of marriage, so we never went that route. We have a daughter, who has just turned five.

My partner owns her own home outright as it was bought for her by her parents, and I effectively pay my share of (what, for me, is rent) bills, and food costs. The house is a timber framed one bed bungalow in an affluent part of rural Devon. The average house price in our road is close to a million, whereas this property is in serious disrepair.

We have no bathroom to speak of, just a toilet and bath behind a curtain by the front door. We converted the old kitchen into a very small bedroom for our daughter, and I'm worried she'll soon outgrow it.

Much of the exterior timber is rotting, and rats have entered the property on several occasions and have nested in the roof. I found one in the living room a few weeks ago and had to shoot it with an air rifle. We go through a cycle every few winters of plugging holes in the exterior before they chew new ones to gain entry and deploying poisons.

I'm embarrassed by our living situation and have asked my partner on several occasions if she would consider moving. I was a stay at home dad from the end of her maternity year until our little one went to school, as I worked from home at the time. I've always found the house difficult and depressing. It's very small, needs extensive work that we can't afford, and can never be comprehensively cleaned. My partner insists on doing the plumbing and electrics herself. Professionals who have been inside have commented that none of it meets current regulations.

My partner is a great mum but has also made decisions that have really challenged my ability to feel comfortable in this place. She keeps a pet pig at the end of the garden and, one winter, brought it into the house because she was concerned it would be too cold in the snow. It destroyed the living room and fouled everywhere. We also briefly kept chickens and returned from holiday to find they'd gotten in and also fouled everywhere. I had to try and deep clean the house while my partner waited outside with the baby. No matter how much I protest and beg, she insists on living here.

I'm adamant that this is no place to raise a child. My partner refuses to consider moving. I'm now considering separation and moving out, as I've lived in these conditions for ten years and can't stand another day. I'm fairly sure that social services would condemn the house and force us to move if they saw it, but I don't want to throw my partner under the bus by reporting.

My daughter, despite the environment, is very happy here. She has a bath every night and is a happy, well adjusted little girl. But I want so much more for her than this. I wouldn't want to uproot her from her school and friends or engage my partner is a horrible litigation process. She is a great mum but cannot see that the house is dangerous and filthy.

I feel like a failure as a dad. I'm not sure whether moving out will prove beneficial in the long term (because I can least offer her a clean home elsewhere that she spends some time in) or whether I should stay and do what I can to improve the house. It feels like a lost cause, though, as we don't have the funds to knock this all down and build a new property in top. We can't borrow on the property because it's not brick and mortar, and so our only option is a personal loan at high interest to build a cheap extension. My suggestion was that we sell and use the profits as a deposit on somewhere appropriate, but my partner is insistent that she will never sell and that the property is entirely hers. I respect that, and it is true, but I would prefer we remain together as a family and invest our efforts into a joint responsibility that is clean and structurally sound. As that isn't an option, I feel like moving and seeing my daughter on weekends is my only option.

What does the collective wisdom of MN think I should do?

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Dairymilkisminging · 14/04/2025 19:54

Haha true very true

JohnofWessex · 14/04/2025 21:16

I am starting to get the feeling that she's a hoarder with everything that entails

ArseInTheCoOpWindow · 14/04/2025 21:31

Christ sounds awful.

Seems to be similar to hoarding. Learnt from her parents. Why is she in charge of everything?

Just go asap and rescue your daughter from a life of indoor pigshit. I’d never let my children live in those conditions.

jackiesgirl · 14/04/2025 21:47

Could you pay for a survey so you have a piece of paper spelling out what all the risks and issues are?

JohnofWessex · 14/04/2025 21:54

jackiesgirl · 14/04/2025 21:47

Could you pay for a survey so you have a piece of paper spelling out what all the risks and issues are?

Why spend the money on a survey when the house is obviously unfit for habitation

jackiesgirl · 14/04/2025 23:06

JohnofWessex · 14/04/2025 21:54

Why spend the money on a survey when the house is obviously unfit for habitation

She might be in denial about how bad it is - she can’t argue with a professional view

L0UISA · 14/04/2025 23:23

maoleis · 14/04/2025 19:51

While I may not have done much to the house, for reasons that are best illustrated by actually seeing the place and trying to live in it, I have spent years removing decades of rubbish from the garden/land. Examples include removing asbestos guttering and roofing from the property, pulling a fridge freezer and motor parts out of the hedges, etc.

My partner was irate when I paid several hundred for a waste disposal company to take it all away because she feared there may be something valuable in the waste pile. All of it struck me as just a series of hazards on which our daughter might trip and impale herself. Rusty pitchforks sticking out the ground, barbed wire strewn around the place. I've done quite enough thank you.

Well if you found a waste disposal company to take away asbestos roofing and gutters for several hundred pounds, then you hired a bunch of cowboys who have no doubt dumped it illegally.

I trust you wore all the appropriate PPE when you removed the asbestos yourself.

maoleis · 15/04/2025 08:18

L0UISA · 14/04/2025 23:23

Well if you found a waste disposal company to take away asbestos roofing and gutters for several hundred pounds, then you hired a bunch of cowboys who have no doubt dumped it illegally.

I trust you wore all the appropriate PPE when you removed the asbestos yourself.

I'm not following this comment. It seems like an invitation to somehow prove to you that I'm competent.

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maoleis · 15/04/2025 08:36

L0UISA · 14/04/2025 23:23

Well if you found a waste disposal company to take away asbestos roofing and gutters for several hundred pounds, then you hired a bunch of cowboys who have no doubt dumped it illegally.

I trust you wore all the appropriate PPE when you removed the asbestos yourself.

Oh I see where you're coming from now. You seem to think that several hundred pounds is too cheap, and therefore I must have used a suspect company, and therefore I must be unable to wear PPE. Many leaps of logic without much information there.

The standard price is around £50-100 per square metre. The bungalow is tiny. Much of the asbestos roofing is still in place. I only removed what was loose and likely to become a hazard.

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TheGentleButFirmMadonna · 14/07/2025 21:24

Found your thread. What happened to you and your child?

Devianinc · 14/07/2025 22:04

maoleis · 13/04/2025 20:58

On cleanliness, it's not terrible but certainly not at a standard I'm cofrtable with. For example when the pig was in the living room, we had to throw what was left of the sofa and mopped the wooden floors. For me, that's not enough to be sure the health risks of literally living in pig shit were neutralised. If I could, I'd rip out all furniture and fixings and steam clean everything with an industrial tool. We push a hoover around and put things through the washing machine, but I think the whole place won't ever be clean unless it's burnt down personally.

So she doesn’t care that her little girl is living in squalor with rat dropping and pawing crap in the house. She doesn’t sound mentally stable. Also with rodents you can get hentavirus and you die. Never mind the bad electrical and possible house fire. I’d get my child out of there as fast as I could. I don’t think you’d have a problem with any court in the land over this. It just sounds so crazy. Pig crap, not pawing. Take care of your little girl and run away from this one. She only seems to care about what she wants.

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