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Coded invitations from ex-in-laws

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Suckituporsaysomething · 06/03/2025 08:59

I've re-written this so many times. I'm really worried the person in question might see my thread, because I'm sure she's on Mumsnet. Or that it will get shared to FB. No real reason why it should, but it would make the whole situation worse I suppose if anyone identified me.

I'm divorced. Was with XH twenty years and spent a lot of time with his family. Godmother to a DN on his side (relevant).

Ex-SIL has a habit of wording invitations so that you know you're meant to decline. I know this, rather than just suspect it, because I once declined one of these and another member of extended family didn't, and ex-SIL commented on them not getting the hint. I don't really like this approach, but wasn't bothered on that occasion as I didn't want to go to the event anyway.

XH and I separated seven years ago. Not on good terms. He lied to me throughout our relationship about something pretty fundamental and I have a really low tolerance for deceit these days.

Ex-SIL kept in touch quite regularly to begin with. Then when XH's new partner came on the scene, things cooled off a bit. I accepted that it's hard after a divorce and there was probably pressure from XH to accept new partner and not keep up a relationship with me. I was saddened, but realistic enough to think it wasn't really personal, just family politics.

About three years ago, Ex-SIL invited me to a family event. Couldn't tell if this was a coded invitation that I was expected to decline or a genuine invitation offering me a way out of seeing all the extended ex-in-law family. Decided to proceed as if genuine. Response was basically along the lines of "oh no, we don't expect you to come all this way, blah, blah, blah" and effectively uninviting me. I was hurt. If she'd called and said she wanted to invite me but it wasn't the right time and this was not an event where she could handle family tension, I would have understood. I was hurt that she chose this method of inviting but not actually inviting me (and directly uninviting me when I chose to read the invitation as genuine).

I backed away from the relationship. I still send gifts to all DNs for birthdays, Christmas etc. but I don't initiate contact with ex-SIL. Since the "uninvited" thing, ex-SIL has twice suggested meeting up, and cancelled both times. The last time was also because it was going to inconvenience me (I would have worked something out, she said it would be inconvenient to me so wasn't going to work this time). I'm a bit sick of what feels like fake niceness and pretending to want to see me but then not actually going ahead

Now I've unexpectedly received an invitation to DN3's First Holy Communion. I'm one of the godparents so maybe it's not that surprising. However, given the history, I thought I was just being faded out. The invitation looks genuine. No coded/handy excuses included. It even includes my new partner (don't think he can go, so it would be me facing all ex-in-laws alone). It's on a weekend when my own DC are with me.

Cynical me thinks they'd be embarrassed if a godparent didn't show up. Or they already know from XH that DC will be with me on that date so they think they have to invite me. I would never prevent XH taking DC to a family event in "my" time. I'm not a dick.

What does Mumsnet think? This invitation has reminded me how hurt I was when I realised I wasn't really invited to the past event. I haven't viewed ex-SIL as warmly since. I felt tricked and it left me feeling foolish. On the other hand, DN3 hasn't done anything wrong and it's their day. The DNs are still my DC's cousins.

What would you do? Would you address the uninviting thing to clear the air and be able to go? Just accept ex-SIL is a bit sneaky with these things and go, taking the moral high ground? Politely decline? Or is this coded wording of invitations acceptable, and this latest one is probably genuine if that's how it appears, i.e. they do actually want me at this?

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Suckituporsaysomething · 06/03/2025 09:45

Maybe I should have gone for a more exciting title!

Anyone have an opinion?

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seven201 · 06/03/2025 09:51

Can you call her and ask? Or just ask via text if she genuinely wants you there as previously some invites have been clearly sent for lip service only. Time to politely call it out I think. This non-invite invite thing would drive me mad btw.

Yazzi · 06/03/2025 09:53

I would go for your niece and do your very best to block out the rest.

How exhausting though.

Garlicgarlicgarlic · 06/03/2025 09:57

Ask her 'do you actually want me to attend? Also, can you leave me out of the secret code invites in future, it's a bit weird. Cheers'

Don't reply to RSVP until she uses words to clarify if the invite is genuine. It takes two people to play games, so opt out.

ThisIsMyYearToFindMyself · 06/03/2025 09:59

Is it the niece you are godmother to? Are your children invited? Do they want to go? How many hours travel time? These answers might change my opinion.

But my initial opinion is don’t go and cool things off, even with presents for Christmas etc. The SIL doesn’t make an effort with you and you don’t mention anyone else so I presume they don’t either. Ex DH can facilitate the kids seeing their cousins.

MagpiePi · 06/03/2025 09:59

I agree with @seven201 in that you need to call her out. You could say you don't mind not being invited to family events and to only send an invitation if they really want you there.

I'd go to the communion but avoid the gathering afterwards.

AllotmentTime · 06/03/2025 09:59

Inviting your new partner feels like an indication it's genuine. I would go.

if she rings to uninvite you, that would almost be a blessing because you can assume you are being replaced as godparent and cut out. So worst case scenario, you 100% know where you stand and you never have to see them again.

MMmomDD · 06/03/2025 10:04

I wont bother analysing this tk death and wondering.
You are the Godparent. You signed up for it - so I think you need to go for your Niece.

And she is your kids’s cousin. So - just go and
do what’s needed. You dont need to go deeper than small talk with ex in-laws.

Then come back and focus on your life.

Sunnyplain · 06/03/2025 10:04

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Sharktoothgirl · 06/03/2025 10:05

I would call her to congratulate your niece on her upcoming communion and ASK outright if your SIL thinks your niece would like you to come (being her godmother and all!) or if your SIL thinks it’s better for family harmony if you decline.

Velmy · 06/03/2025 10:25

Your ex-SIL sounds like a maniac - Why would she invite someone to a party if she doesn't want them there?

Suckituporsaysomething · 06/03/2025 10:28

Thank you for the replies!

You seem to pretty much sum up my two main thoughts, which are a bit conflicting.

  1. I should call it out, make it clear I don't like these coded messages and much prefer honest communications. And risk the relationship completely ending (which I don't really want purely for my own DC's sake).
  1. Niece is a child and knows nothing about the adult relationships. I'm godmother and should go for her.

The message did say that the DNs have been asking when they'll see me again (though I suspect this is for politeness rather than true).

Ex-FIL (lives nearby) has repeatedly made it clear that he would like to see me regularly, but I knew XH was very unhappy about this so have kept my distance.

It will probably take a couple of hours to drive to ex-SIL. Depends on traffic, and I haven't done that journey in quite a while, but think it was about that last time.

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SoundedCat · 06/03/2025 10:29

She's exhausting.

Text back, " How lovely it's little Sally's first holy communion so soon, can't believe where the time has gone! Derek and I would be happy to attend if you feel it's appropriate."

Not a direct yes. Subtly calls out that her invitations are not straight forward. Doesn't leave you feeling a fool

Suckituporsaysomething · 06/03/2025 10:32

Velmy · 06/03/2025 10:25

Your ex-SIL sounds like a maniac - Why would she invite someone to a party if she doesn't want them there?

I think it is her (in my opinion misplaced) view that this retains the appearance of including someone. You read between the lines, don't go, and nobody has to be obviously rude.

Except that I personally find this ruder than just saying "you know what, Suckitup, it's going to be a nightmare for family politics and I feel bad saying this, but we're not going to invite you this time and hope things will calm down by the next significant occasion".

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TheOneWithTheWedding · 06/03/2025 10:36

I wouldn’t go. If you can’t keep (at no fault of your own) a relationship with exsil then you’re not really a god parent to their dc it’s just for show. I would steer clear to avoid more hurt

CarrieOnComplaining · 06/03/2025 10:38

I would be straight and direct with her.

Call, don’t message. Say thanks so much for the invite, can’t believe my gift child is that age already…I just wanted to ask.. is it tricky for you to invite me now ex and I are separated? If it is awkward, please don’t feel you need to invite me, just explain and I will understand. I can always keep in touch with Dn in other ways’

Penterist · 06/03/2025 10:40

This all takes up way too much headspace. Personally it is all a lot of effort on your part with presents and trying to work out if this invitation is a genuine one. Quite frankly I would just stop it all, stop contacting them, stop the presents. SIL is always fucking with your head and only doing the invitations to make herself look good when actually she is not very nice at all. Drop them all.

mindutopia · 06/03/2025 10:41

Honestly, I think I’d tackle it head on because it’s all really annoying and childish. “Hi ex-SIL, thanks for the invite. I would love to come to DN’s first communion and dc would love to celebrate the day with their cousin. Just checking you’re genuinely happy for us to come. The past few times we’ve responded you’ve cancelled on us and I want to make sure you’re really happy to have us there. If you think it would be too difficult for the family, that’s okay. We’ll just send a card or make ex-husband can come with dc so they get to see their cousins.”

SunshineAndFizz · 06/03/2025 10:41

You're the godmother so yes of course you go.

SunshineAndFizz · 06/03/2025 10:42

mindutopia · 06/03/2025 10:41

Honestly, I think I’d tackle it head on because it’s all really annoying and childish. “Hi ex-SIL, thanks for the invite. I would love to come to DN’s first communion and dc would love to celebrate the day with their cousin. Just checking you’re genuinely happy for us to come. The past few times we’ve responded you’ve cancelled on us and I want to make sure you’re really happy to have us there. If you think it would be too difficult for the family, that’s okay. We’ll just send a card or make ex-husband can come with dc so they get to see their cousins.”

Actually yes - do this. This is better.

treesandsun · 06/03/2025 10:44

Having invited and uninvited you previously I wouldn't bother my arse even responding . It is nice for godparents to attend Holy Communions but it is not a requirement they don't participate in any of the ceremony like they do the Baptism.
I would definitely have pulled her about it before now - why bother inviting you - is it so she can say you she did and you declined? You've been divorced long enough that if the relationship between you and his family was going to be maintained then it would have by now.

Brefugee · 06/03/2025 10:46

just say no. Then tell her that she can stop inviting you for form's sake and you don't care about any of them but only preserving the relationship with your niece.

Does niece still want this or is it transactional (you're fab because you pony up with presents but she has to make no effort towards you)?

AmusedGoose · 06/03/2025 10:47

I'd say you will go to church but not the party afterwards. Maybe ex could take your child.

Suckituporsaysomething · 06/03/2025 10:48

@treesandsun "why bother inviting you - is it so she can say you she did and you declined?"

I think that is precisely why. So she can say that she made the effort but I declined.

Only this time I think it's a bit more genuine. Just that it's also probably a bit too late for me. I'd resigned myself to not really having a relationship with my nieces and this has thrown me a bit.

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Suckituporsaysomething · 06/03/2025 10:50

mindutopia · 06/03/2025 10:41

Honestly, I think I’d tackle it head on because it’s all really annoying and childish. “Hi ex-SIL, thanks for the invite. I would love to come to DN’s first communion and dc would love to celebrate the day with their cousin. Just checking you’re genuinely happy for us to come. The past few times we’ve responded you’ve cancelled on us and I want to make sure you’re really happy to have us there. If you think it would be too difficult for the family, that’s okay. We’ll just send a card or make ex-husband can come with dc so they get to see their cousins.”

This is really good, thank you.

There have been some other similar suggestions, so I might sit down this evening or on my lunch break and word something.

I've always tried really hard to avoid confrontation, but I'm getting too old for pussyfooting around stuff.

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