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Coded invitations from ex-in-laws

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Suckituporsaysomething · 06/03/2025 08:59

I've re-written this so many times. I'm really worried the person in question might see my thread, because I'm sure she's on Mumsnet. Or that it will get shared to FB. No real reason why it should, but it would make the whole situation worse I suppose if anyone identified me.

I'm divorced. Was with XH twenty years and spent a lot of time with his family. Godmother to a DN on his side (relevant).

Ex-SIL has a habit of wording invitations so that you know you're meant to decline. I know this, rather than just suspect it, because I once declined one of these and another member of extended family didn't, and ex-SIL commented on them not getting the hint. I don't really like this approach, but wasn't bothered on that occasion as I didn't want to go to the event anyway.

XH and I separated seven years ago. Not on good terms. He lied to me throughout our relationship about something pretty fundamental and I have a really low tolerance for deceit these days.

Ex-SIL kept in touch quite regularly to begin with. Then when XH's new partner came on the scene, things cooled off a bit. I accepted that it's hard after a divorce and there was probably pressure from XH to accept new partner and not keep up a relationship with me. I was saddened, but realistic enough to think it wasn't really personal, just family politics.

About three years ago, Ex-SIL invited me to a family event. Couldn't tell if this was a coded invitation that I was expected to decline or a genuine invitation offering me a way out of seeing all the extended ex-in-law family. Decided to proceed as if genuine. Response was basically along the lines of "oh no, we don't expect you to come all this way, blah, blah, blah" and effectively uninviting me. I was hurt. If she'd called and said she wanted to invite me but it wasn't the right time and this was not an event where she could handle family tension, I would have understood. I was hurt that she chose this method of inviting but not actually inviting me (and directly uninviting me when I chose to read the invitation as genuine).

I backed away from the relationship. I still send gifts to all DNs for birthdays, Christmas etc. but I don't initiate contact with ex-SIL. Since the "uninvited" thing, ex-SIL has twice suggested meeting up, and cancelled both times. The last time was also because it was going to inconvenience me (I would have worked something out, she said it would be inconvenient to me so wasn't going to work this time). I'm a bit sick of what feels like fake niceness and pretending to want to see me but then not actually going ahead

Now I've unexpectedly received an invitation to DN3's First Holy Communion. I'm one of the godparents so maybe it's not that surprising. However, given the history, I thought I was just being faded out. The invitation looks genuine. No coded/handy excuses included. It even includes my new partner (don't think he can go, so it would be me facing all ex-in-laws alone). It's on a weekend when my own DC are with me.

Cynical me thinks they'd be embarrassed if a godparent didn't show up. Or they already know from XH that DC will be with me on that date so they think they have to invite me. I would never prevent XH taking DC to a family event in "my" time. I'm not a dick.

What does Mumsnet think? This invitation has reminded me how hurt I was when I realised I wasn't really invited to the past event. I haven't viewed ex-SIL as warmly since. I felt tricked and it left me feeling foolish. On the other hand, DN3 hasn't done anything wrong and it's their day. The DNs are still my DC's cousins.

What would you do? Would you address the uninviting thing to clear the air and be able to go? Just accept ex-SIL is a bit sneaky with these things and go, taking the moral high ground? Politely decline? Or is this coded wording of invitations acceptable, and this latest one is probably genuine if that's how it appears, i.e. they do actually want me at this?

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Suckituporsaysomething · 06/03/2025 13:35

Thank you so much to everyone who has commented. I've found it really helpful to hear the different opinions.

I've sent a reply. It's probably longer than most of you would like, but I think I've been honest, hopefully polite, and covered the important stuff.

I feel like I've pushed a big red button. But the truth is, if they don't really want me in their lives anymore then it's better for me to know that. Ill advised or not, I feel much better for saying something.

I went down the route of "would love to attend/need to check first that it's a genuine invitation/after last time I want to be absolutely clear/if you feel we've all moved on then the DC can go with XH/I'll continue to acknowledge birthdays etc regardless/if you do want me there then great and feel free to call."

I do care about being an aunty and godmother. But I also care about myself. And I'm not going to spend a total of four hours in the car, and chat to people I used to really care about but no longer hear from, unless there's some actual, genuine effort on their side. It doesn't matter what they tell other people. I think my conscience is clear - I'll be an involved aunty/godmother if I'm allowed. But they have to actually allow it.

Phew! Going to reward myself with some lunch in the sunshine!

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MushMonster · 06/03/2025 13:46

No no no no no
Nobody can live life having to guess what is behind other person's words.
You have spent a silly amount of time trying to figure your SIL out.
I think you are doing this wrong.
I would not even bother to reply, but if you are more polite than me, just say no or text and say if she wants the children to be there, you would be happy for her brother to take them. I will not be going.
You want to see your nieces, send SIL a text asking for them to pop in to see their cousins, or take them out to the park together or send her a present for her first communion. Without your stupid SIL there.
Just ignore this idiot. She is nothing but trouble. And mind you, she may start behaving the same way with your children. Better to be low or no contact with people like this.

ThisIsMyYearToFindMyself · 06/03/2025 14:36

Ex-FIL (lives nearby) has repeatedly made it clear that he would like to see me regularly, but I knew XH was very unhappy about this so have kept my distance

Well! If you also would like to see your ex FIL then go for it! Unfortunately for your ex, it’s none of his business what your social life involves, or that of his father. How about a regular pub lunch date or something like that?

Itiswhysofew · 06/03/2025 14:46

Accept it , if you want to be there for DN, as I'm sure Ex-SIL will clarify things, in her usual style. Don't let her get to you; cow🙁

crashbandicooty · 06/03/2025 22:12

I just couldn't be arsed making all this effort and going along to family events of the ex in laws.

SunshineAndFizz · 07/03/2025 17:56

@Suckituporsaysomething did you get a reply?!

Suckituporsaysomething · 07/03/2025 20:41

Yes. I couldn't decide whether to update or wait a bit longer until we've hopefully talked. But since you ask...

The general gist is that they all very much want me to go and ex-SIL has a different memory of the exchange about the last special occasion, and had no idea I might feel the way I did. (I really don't think I've misremembered. There was someone with me when I got the "uninviting" message and that person still remembers it, too). I suggested that we have a call and actually talk, and she agreed. Hopefully soon.

Not so long ago, I'd have felt awful and been questioning myself and probably apologising for misunderstanding. Seeing the responses on here has really helped me to feel like I'm not mad. I'm definitely not going to say or do anything to imply that I might have got the wrong end of the stick before.

This whole situation has helped me clarify that I do want to go and be there for DN on her big day. And because I want to model an amicable relationship with the extended family for my DC. I really want them to see that all the adults in their lives can come together for special occasions.

However, I'm a lot more sure of myself than I was in the first few years post-divorce and I was not going to go just because. It was the right thing for me to make my point. I'm inclined to go.

Ex-SIL isn't actually a maniac or a cow 😁. But it's impossible to get every nuance across on here without writing a novel. She has a very direct, no-nonsense manner, which I have occasionally felt a sneaking admiration for. I'm sure she thinks this style of invitation is useful - even kind - in certain circumstances. Maybe she'll think twice about it in future.

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Suckituporsaysomething · 07/03/2025 20:43

Oops, was supposed to be replying to @SunshineAndFizz there!

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Redshoeblueshoe · 07/03/2025 21:07

Well that's a good result.

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