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Coded invitations from ex-in-laws

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Suckituporsaysomething · 06/03/2025 08:59

I've re-written this so many times. I'm really worried the person in question might see my thread, because I'm sure she's on Mumsnet. Or that it will get shared to FB. No real reason why it should, but it would make the whole situation worse I suppose if anyone identified me.

I'm divorced. Was with XH twenty years and spent a lot of time with his family. Godmother to a DN on his side (relevant).

Ex-SIL has a habit of wording invitations so that you know you're meant to decline. I know this, rather than just suspect it, because I once declined one of these and another member of extended family didn't, and ex-SIL commented on them not getting the hint. I don't really like this approach, but wasn't bothered on that occasion as I didn't want to go to the event anyway.

XH and I separated seven years ago. Not on good terms. He lied to me throughout our relationship about something pretty fundamental and I have a really low tolerance for deceit these days.

Ex-SIL kept in touch quite regularly to begin with. Then when XH's new partner came on the scene, things cooled off a bit. I accepted that it's hard after a divorce and there was probably pressure from XH to accept new partner and not keep up a relationship with me. I was saddened, but realistic enough to think it wasn't really personal, just family politics.

About three years ago, Ex-SIL invited me to a family event. Couldn't tell if this was a coded invitation that I was expected to decline or a genuine invitation offering me a way out of seeing all the extended ex-in-law family. Decided to proceed as if genuine. Response was basically along the lines of "oh no, we don't expect you to come all this way, blah, blah, blah" and effectively uninviting me. I was hurt. If she'd called and said she wanted to invite me but it wasn't the right time and this was not an event where she could handle family tension, I would have understood. I was hurt that she chose this method of inviting but not actually inviting me (and directly uninviting me when I chose to read the invitation as genuine).

I backed away from the relationship. I still send gifts to all DNs for birthdays, Christmas etc. but I don't initiate contact with ex-SIL. Since the "uninvited" thing, ex-SIL has twice suggested meeting up, and cancelled both times. The last time was also because it was going to inconvenience me (I would have worked something out, she said it would be inconvenient to me so wasn't going to work this time). I'm a bit sick of what feels like fake niceness and pretending to want to see me but then not actually going ahead

Now I've unexpectedly received an invitation to DN3's First Holy Communion. I'm one of the godparents so maybe it's not that surprising. However, given the history, I thought I was just being faded out. The invitation looks genuine. No coded/handy excuses included. It even includes my new partner (don't think he can go, so it would be me facing all ex-in-laws alone). It's on a weekend when my own DC are with me.

Cynical me thinks they'd be embarrassed if a godparent didn't show up. Or they already know from XH that DC will be with me on that date so they think they have to invite me. I would never prevent XH taking DC to a family event in "my" time. I'm not a dick.

What does Mumsnet think? This invitation has reminded me how hurt I was when I realised I wasn't really invited to the past event. I haven't viewed ex-SIL as warmly since. I felt tricked and it left me feeling foolish. On the other hand, DN3 hasn't done anything wrong and it's their day. The DNs are still my DC's cousins.

What would you do? Would you address the uninviting thing to clear the air and be able to go? Just accept ex-SIL is a bit sneaky with these things and go, taking the moral high ground? Politely decline? Or is this coded wording of invitations acceptable, and this latest one is probably genuine if that's how it appears, i.e. they do actually want me at this?

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Zilla1 · 06/03/2025 11:08

One of the benefits of relationships ending is that there is less incentive to dance to someone unreasonable's tune nor people please. It sounds like that ex-family member has made no effort to keep in touch, nor cares about you so why would you want to prioritise dancing to her tune? If it's a genuine invite then I must go and if not then I should pretend I'm not available so she can say she invited me. Decline because you've got plans and say your ex can take the children if he can be bothered then prioritise you and your family.

Good luck.

MagpiePi · 06/03/2025 11:12

Having read your subsequent posts it sounds like the SIL is actually being a bit nasty and making you out to be the bad guy for declining all the invitations.

You need to call her out and say the XH will be responsible for taking your DC to any family events from now on. I’m sure she’ll turn it round and tell the family that you have made the decision to cut all contact, but would you really care if she did?

NotSoFar · 06/03/2025 11:12

Garlicgarlicgarlic · 06/03/2025 09:57

Ask her 'do you actually want me to attend? Also, can you leave me out of the secret code invites in future, it's a bit weird. Cheers'

Don't reply to RSVP until she uses words to clarify if the invite is genuine. It takes two people to play games, so opt out.

This. Draw her attention to her response last time with the invitation you were supposed to decline, and say you haven’t the time and inclination to play games. She should use her — non-coded— words.

notatinydancer · 06/03/2025 11:15

I don't think I'd be going to anything with my ex husband's family.
You're divorced.

kellionette · 06/03/2025 11:24

God, they sound like such nightmares.

I'm petty and would insist on going to every single thing they invited me to until they learnt not to play this insulting game. Possibly arriving early and staying late. No, it's not too far at all! I'm in the area anyway for X event. Really looking forward to seeing you all!

Not saying that this is good advice. But it would amuse me.

thinktwice36 · 06/03/2025 11:33

seven201 · 06/03/2025 09:51

Can you call her and ask? Or just ask via text if she genuinely wants you there as previously some invites have been clearly sent for lip service only. Time to politely call it out I think. This non-invite invite thing would drive me mad btw.

His 💯

CaptainRosy · 06/03/2025 11:46

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StumbleInTheDebris · 06/03/2025 11:57

Yes OP, send the above message ^^ Grin

She'll be trying to read between the lines for ages!

Sunat45degrees · 06/03/2025 12:04

I completely disagree that you should offer her an out. She's already a vague communicator with hidden meanings, so doing that will just confuse her.

Do you want to go? IUt sounds like you do value your role as godmother and you like ex's family (albeit, perhaps exSIL less so these days). So you respond saying thank you, you're looking forward to it and will bring DC and an appropraite godmother gift.

IF she then comes back attempting to uninvited you, call her out, "exSIL - you invited me. I responded. I am DN's godmother and of course I want to be there. If you didn't want to invite me, you should not have done so."

As for FIL - I get your Dh wants you to keep your distance but, here's the kicker, you are NOT married to him anymore. So he doesn't get to decide. If his father chooses to prioritise his relationship with his son over his relationship with you, that is totally reasonable. But if you and FIL are both happy to see each other - and he is the grandfather of your children - then frankly, I don't know why you don't do it.

It seems ot me you are bending over backwards to accomodate people (exDh and exSIL) who a) you owe nothing to and b) have been consistently unkind and dishonest with you whiel losing out on relationships that are actually valuable - your DNs and your FIL.

Fluffyholeysocks · 06/03/2025 12:14

The most important factor surely is your relationship with your Godchild. Does she want you there? Are you in contact regularly?
Forget about all the invited/but not really invited nonsense and think about your relationship with your Godchild. If she's important to you go.

melonalone · 06/03/2025 12:33

@Suckituporsaysomething don't RSVP, but attend!

That way you're there for your DN (as a godparent should be), but it will also stop your SIL sending you fake invitations in future as she'll be worried that you will just turn up! This also saves you calling her out, which means she doesn't have a reason to fall out with you.

Suckituporsaysomething · 06/03/2025 12:38

melonalone · 06/03/2025 12:33

@Suckituporsaysomething don't RSVP, but attend!

That way you're there for your DN (as a godparent should be), but it will also stop your SIL sending you fake invitations in future as she'll be worried that you will just turn up! This also saves you calling her out, which means she doesn't have a reason to fall out with you.

Your comment has made my day! 😂

I really needed a good chuckle and that's brilliant. I won't do it, but I might just picture it when I'm feeling annoyed.

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gamerchick · 06/03/2025 12:40

Not a chance man.

I hope she is on here because that's some seriously fucked up power play shit she pulls and she needs to be told that.

Tell her to fuck off.... Politely if you must.

WhereYouLeftIt · 06/03/2025 12:45

Suckituporsaysomething · 06/03/2025 10:32

I think it is her (in my opinion misplaced) view that this retains the appearance of including someone. You read between the lines, don't go, and nobody has to be obviously rude.

Except that I personally find this ruder than just saying "you know what, Suckitup, it's going to be a nightmare for family politics and I feel bad saying this, but we're not going to invite you this time and hope things will calm down by the next significant occasion".

From my perspective, your SIL sounds as big a liar as her brother. Family trait?

Iamallowedtodisagreewithyou · 06/03/2025 12:48

Of course you should go to your goddaughters first holy communnian if invited. I'm surprised you doubt yourself to be honest.

WhereYouLeftIt · 06/03/2025 12:50

Iamallowedtodisagreewithyou · 06/03/2025 12:48

Of course you should go to your goddaughters first holy communnian if invited. I'm surprised you doubt yourself to be honest.

She's not doubting herself, she's doubting the genuineness of the invite.

Sharktoothgirl · 06/03/2025 12:56

You don’t have to call her out in a way that makes it sound like she’s done something nasty. I do understand that from your point of view the invitations are fake and it’s nasty behavior. But the best way to ask this question about the communion is to treat it like you understand she’s inviting you to be polite and show you she’s thinking of you, and expecting you to turn things down to show you’re being polite and avoiding causing upset in the wider family. But this time you don’t know what the polite response is supposed to be because you’re the godmother so you’re asking.

WhatDidIComeInThisRoomFor · 06/03/2025 12:56

Sunat45degrees · 06/03/2025 12:04

I completely disagree that you should offer her an out. She's already a vague communicator with hidden meanings, so doing that will just confuse her.

Do you want to go? IUt sounds like you do value your role as godmother and you like ex's family (albeit, perhaps exSIL less so these days). So you respond saying thank you, you're looking forward to it and will bring DC and an appropraite godmother gift.

IF she then comes back attempting to uninvited you, call her out, "exSIL - you invited me. I responded. I am DN's godmother and of course I want to be there. If you didn't want to invite me, you should not have done so."

As for FIL - I get your Dh wants you to keep your distance but, here's the kicker, you are NOT married to him anymore. So he doesn't get to decide. If his father chooses to prioritise his relationship with his son over his relationship with you, that is totally reasonable. But if you and FIL are both happy to see each other - and he is the grandfather of your children - then frankly, I don't know why you don't do it.

It seems ot me you are bending over backwards to accomodate people (exDh and exSIL) who a) you owe nothing to and b) have been consistently unkind and dishonest with you whiel losing out on relationships that are actually valuable - your DNs and your FIL.

This is perfect. Assuming you want to go, make the response quite gushing and positive and proactive. So it’s very clear you would love to come. And you then have a route to challenge if she tries to uninvite.

also develop a thicker skin (I mean that nicely) - if she tries the “oh it’s too far, not convenient” thing just bat her away briskly:

“Nonsense. DN is my goddaughter and I’m delighted to be included. It will be my pleasure to be there on her special day. See you on the 16th! x”

Sharktoothgirl · 06/03/2025 12:57

And I think it’s frustrating and confusing behavior on her part, but she may genuinely think she is being respectful and polite to you by sending you invitations expecting you to turn them down.

Iamallowedtodisagreewithyou · 06/03/2025 13:00

WhereYouLeftIt · 06/03/2025 12:50

She's not doubting herself, she's doubting the genuineness of the invite.

This is why I always take people at face value and don't assign ambiguity to anything. I literally comprehend what they say.

WellsAndThistles · 06/03/2025 13:00

They sound like hard work, I would walk away from the whole lot of them.

Itsseweasy · 06/03/2025 13:02

I have no patience for her kind of childish behaviour so I’d just send a message asking her if she actually wants me there or am I meant to decline, but that’s just me 😆
You sound like a lovely aunt/godparent to her kids but I’d start calling her out on the childish stuff and ask her to be straightforward in future.

MiddlingMarch · 06/03/2025 13:04

Cam you reply along the lines of your role as godparent, but also checking you are meant to attend?

"Hasn't time passed quickly, I can't quite believe Niece is old enough for confirmation. Time for me to kick my godmother role back into action, unless other godparent has this covered from now on? Would be lovely for my DC to see their cousins, they are with me that weekend so I am happy to attend"

I think because you are a God parent then you're supposed to attend?

I'm an atheist so have no clue. I'm also a godmother to my nephew so not sure if I've missed stuff for him...

harriethoyle · 06/03/2025 13:13

I don't really understand why you are insisting on maintaining a relationship with a) a woman you don't like (understandably, btw, that's not a dig) and b) a family that is no longer yours and who your children don't need you to keep ties with because their dad has it covered. Just politely decline and send a present, and step away from ex in laws whose family you are no longer part of. I'd be pretty furious if my ex-H insisted on perpetuating a relationship with my family.

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