Buying a puppy. Breeder applying pressure for payment.

[fandangored]

Breeder applying pressure for payment and asking for transfer or cash payment BEFORE viewing day with puppy at 4 weeks..?

Already paid a £200 pre reserve fee!!!

Should I continue or red flag and run?!

You are evidently being a total pain

It seems it”s because rescue centers have overly strict criteria for adopters - as mentioned here. Not to families with children. (Although having a dog is a very family thing). Not to flats (although a flat is increasingly a modern standard of living, like it is in most parts of continental Europe and in cities). A cousin once tried to afopt a cat, but she lived in a flat, so after an unsuccessful search she gave up and bought one.

Sorry If I'm repeating what any other posters have said but OP I wondered if you have tried using Pets4Homes website? They use PetSafePayments and verify breeders IDs. Got my pup Maltipoo from there last year (always had rescues previously).. I wouldn't use Facebook

£2500 is so much money for a cross breed.
I live near a licenced and totally legitimate puppy farm which is reputed to be the largest in Europe.It's supplying most of the UK cross breeds and pedigrees.I'd never consider supporting puppy farming in any way. The hypoallergenic information can be wildly inaccurate so don't be fooled by that.Could you go to a rehoming shelter instead.

I have no need to lie. There was actually another thread a few weeks ago where people were posting what was in there local shelters.

I did have a quick look at Battersea last night. The dogs on offer were mainly American bullys, a cane corso, akitas, cross breeds of bull breed origin. ALL dogs I saw were either to be homed by adults only or for homes with teenagers.

These dogs are NOT suitable for homes with young children, arguably ever, but most certainly when you'll never truly know their past. Unless you're from that country where they state pittbulls are loyal, gentle family dogs... then I guess you'd be happy to have them around your children. Fortunately here we have brains and they're banned.

My response was to the no one carries cash comment. Personally I'm completely against buying puppies at all, rescue all the way.

I've seen the effect of puppy farmers first hand. On a large scale. The devasting effects on the discarded mothers, the health issues of over bred pups, the boxes of dumped pups that are sold or can't be sold or that died from neglect. Have seen the same and worse with kitten farming.

@fandangored wants a cavapoo though so she can withdraw the cash to fund it. Not like she doesn't know there are thousands of dogs needing homes.

I just had a look at a local large rescue. It's wall to wall lurchers apart from one small fluffy thing (reserved) and a reactive bull terrier 'type' (hmm) with ongoing medication issues. Nothing that's suitable for children.

If you leave your details with them, they will contact you if they match you with a dog, and I think that applies to other rescues as well. I'd tread carefully though, as you have to trust the rescue to be honest about issues.

Any reputable breeder gives the puppy home to the new owner at 10-12 weeks. That's enough of a red flag and I'd run a mile.

Have you actually seen the dog? We got caught. Pay reserve fee, up front, then transport, then chip, then they disappeared and the address was a fake.
RED FLAG

For those saying oh but my local rescue is full of bull
breeds, lurchers etc; all of which are great dogs.
Look further afield, Hope Rescue I previously mentioned has taken in 30 spaniels, retrievers dumped by a 'breeder'
There are many smaller rescues beyond RSPCA and DT.
If you're willing to research so called puppy farms and wait, then you can do the same with a rescue.
I've been fortunate to adopt 3 puppies over time, dumped with mum and we brought home at 10/12 weeks; collie x, staffy, best dogs I've ever had.

Thanks, hadn't come across Hope Rescue before.

(I'm not looking for a dog right now, just confirming that in our nearest, there really is nothing suitable for a first time, inexperienced owner with a child.)

All dogs, especially cross breeds, will come with different temperaments. Our little one is a completely different personality to his sister, who my friend owns.

That being said with your needs there are plenty of dogs you can look at. Havanese, Maltese and shih-tzu are all good options. (Special metion for the havi- rare but gorgeous)

I also want to add we couldn't find a suitable rescue after years of looking as I had a 4 year old at the time and my other child has allergies.

Our breeder is exceptional. She posts videos on social media of the pups almost daily. We got extra videos sent to us of all the socialisation they were doing. We got to meet mum and dad... and aunt (who has never had a litter). My dogs mum had 2 litters and was then spayed. There is now another mum who has just had her first litter. In all our breeder has had 3 litters and all in a home and very loved environment. All the dogs are kc registered.

In all. It's def worth waiting to find the right match. It's worth travelling to the right place. All of the adoptive parents are still in touch with the breeder and ongoing communication and love has been so important. My dog is still a complete loon but he is my best buddy and I wouldn't be without him

Lie? You do know they do home checks.

Not all breeders are mills. It’s only by educating people that you can help them see the difference.

Not so. Some Toys yes, but most larger breeds are ready at 8/9 weeks. There mothers are usually avoiding them before that point.

I don't think pounds or shelters have the time or staff to go to every prospective home.

We got our first puppy from a very highly respected kennels in the UK .
We have Crufts Supreme champion in the lineage .
Thats not why we chose this breeder , our dog was a pet and never shown or used for breeding.
They were very relaxed indeed about us visiting mum + puppies plus relaxes about payment too .
We left a small deposit after first visit .
However …we had initially approached a smaller scale breeder much nearer us and that was very different.
Perhaps that was that particular breeders personality??

Adopt, don't shop!

£2500!!!???

For a mongrel!

We didn't pay that for our breed with papers!

Paid no money until we had chosen a pup & paid to reserve.

Paid balance on collection.

Well as long as you don’t think they have the time, then it’s totally fine to lie…

Correct. A lot of the dogs collected need therapy too from the trauma which costs money. They are a fabulous charity charity and have my vote

Funny how I've seen and heard of cava poo plenty but never a cavoodle eh

We adopted a dog from a shelter. Was told he was 12 months and previous owner said he was a bit boisterous and excitable. He was a nightmare. Barked at everyone coming near the house, had to be on the lead if anyone came in the house particularly men. Turned out he was a stray with no known history. We had him for 16 years but it took a lot of tlc to become a well adjusted dog. After I lost my husband, after much agonising, I got a puppy from a reputable breeder, no deposit, payment on pick up with full KC registration, 1 month insurance and first two vaccinations, with a blanket with scent of mum and a few days of puppy food. She is two now and I love her to bits.

How many staff at a pound do you know that leave their duties at the pound and go home with you and check your home out. Its a pound. A shelter. Not a designer breeder.

I've never seen 'cavapoo' in my life. But it seems to be a UK thing to just write 'poo' and not poodle. I cannot imagine anyone using such (imo) unsavoury terms where I am. It would be cavapoodle or cavoodle. Always with the 'oodle' at the end. 'poo' would not be left on the end like that.