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Husband has been violent and wants me to move with him from U.K. to my home country. It is tempting because I miss home. Please help me think this through.

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ShuffleShuffleSpin · 09/02/2025 15:14

Please help me think clearly around this. I am thinking with my emotions and I know I’m getting stuck and confused. My husband has a history of violence and coercive control (if he doesn’t get his way or something displeases him he goes to a “dark mood” and then eventually explodes with banging things, breaking things, throwing things - sometimes at me - or just scolding and shaming). Overt violence towards a person has been fairly rare, but it happens. He has shoved me openly and smashed/punched plastic storage containers that were located next to me at head height which terrified me. I confronted him about violence so he widened up and became covert and subtle, which tricked me for a while. The types of harm he does are now usually disguised as accidents when I or the children are targets. He typically throws something at me from behind and says it’s an accident. He hasn’t done it in a while. But Last weekend he slammed the large wooden sliding wardrobe doors multiple times in a rage when something bothered him. This Sunday I forgot to remind him that I had to sing in church, so he dipped into a sulk and I was terrified of what would happen, but thankfully it was only a shaming and scolding and painting himself as victim this time. He often tries to shame and scold me in a loud voice by listing my faults right as I am trying to go to sleep, since I made the mistake of telling him I can’t handle difficult conversations at bed time bc I’m too tired to think clearly. I now try to avoid him at bed time. We all walk on pins and needles around him. I never know when he will slip into a dark mood and when he is in the dark mood, what will happen. He acts like he is a victim, but he becomes dreadfully frightening. I dread weekends.

I have reported all of the harm / threats to police and children’s services and am documenting anything new. i realise the obvious answer is “leave him”. I am trying and it’s tricky because he has so much control, including over the money. He has stopped giving me an allowance because I got a part time job. My local women’s aid can’t take anyone on at moment because they are under funded. I have hounded them for support literally since last March. The other local DV charity said my DASH score is too high for them to help me. I had an IDVA in the past and am in the process of going back to my GP to ask to be re-referred to an IDVA so that I can start making plans to leave again. When I tried to leave before, it was too complicated because things didn’t line up (I had nowhere to go) and my husband left the house for a while so I could come back and promised to reform himself. I knew the improvements probably wouldn’t last, but he has been improved since then although I know it’s highly likely he will eventually resort to violence again and we need to get away from him.

We live in the U.K. but I am originally from the USA and met my husband when I came to the U.K. as a student. My husband tells me he is “done” with the city where we live in the U.K. and is done with the U.K. in general. He says he wants is to move to the USA now - to my home state - and is encouraging me to look for jobs there to anchor the move. For ages, it seemed he would never move and I was fine with that. I made many decisions based on the decision to do life here, including decisions that affect my career and financial prospects. Husband now speaks to me about this like he is desperate and like his life depends on it. Since I am right at the end of finishing a qualification here in the U.K. and have been secretly trying to prepare to leave him, all of this is very stressful. He acts like it is my fault that we can’t move NOW and he wants me to quit my part time job (which I just started this past autumn) so I can concentrate on completing my qualification and make an international move happen.

I know it’s crazy to even think of this, but the thought of moving to where I grew up so my kids can experience it really tugs at my heartstrings. I know how things work there and what opportunities exist for children etc. I start to think about how if we moved there and got divorced there, the kids and I might feel more supported since I know the community so well.

I also worry that if I divorce him here and not there, I might never be able to move back. Or at least not until the children are grown, due to custody arrangements. That would be approximately 7-10 years. I worry that life here as a single mum will be really difficult and that it might be better if the children and I were able to go back to my community.

when I take a step back, I think I am trying to plan for any and every eventuality, and I am probably over thinking. My husband is completely on my case, pressuring me to plan an international move and acting like he is a victim of my inability to make it happen as soon as yesterday. I worry that if I divorce him here, in the city that he apparently hates, that he will want to harm me even more and that he will become a dreaded enemy.

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Quitelikeit · 09/02/2025 15:58

If you went back home and never returned would he look for you

MolkosTeenageAngst · 09/02/2025 15:59

Are you sure he is being truthful when he says he wan to to move and not just trying to get you to quit your job so you are in a more vulnerable situation and less able to leave him? It’s strange he is blaming not being able to move on your part time job and not on the fact that he doesn’t have a job offer in the US. Even if you trust him enough to move with him don’t give anything up or make any changes to your life until he has a job offer and is in a position to make this a reality, otherwise until then it’s just a carrot he is dangling and you need to be sure he’s not dangling it over shark infested waters hoping he can lure you to fall in.

MrsSkylerWhite · 09/02/2025 15:59

ShuffleShuffleSpin · Today 15:57

MrsSkylerWhite · Today 15:55
Why are you even considering this?
Go home, alone.
I would if I didn’t have children. I have three children. Legally they can’t move back there with me w/out their father’s consent

Are the courts aware of the domestic violence?

wordler · 09/02/2025 15:59

What would he think about you and the kids moving over ahead of him while the spousal visa is processing. So that you can get the job needed to sponsor him.

As I said it takes a while to get through the different stages.

You could be there with the kids for over six months before getting to the final stages of the visa. You would get to choose where you live and build a support network.

WhisperingTree · 09/02/2025 16:00

It’s a good opportunity to move home and then divorce him when you have more support. You are isolated here.

beAsensible1 · 09/02/2025 16:03

Op this is a trick to get you to leave your job and then be under his thumb. Focus on completing your qualififcation, then book a flight without him and don’t come back.

ShuffleShuffleSpin · 09/02/2025 16:04

Quitelikeit · 09/02/2025 15:57

Op

You act like this man is in charge and in control of you

He is not and you need to understand the damage that this is doing to your children

They have witnessed abuse and I cannot begin to tell you the long term impacts on their lives this is going to have

You could report him to the police, they can exclude him from the property

Is it mortgaged? You are entitled to half of it in the event of a divorce

You can claim universal credit, housing benefit, child benefit

Trouble is you are terrified to do anything

You can’t do this alone and that is why you need to go to the police or SS who will take action alongside you to ensure you are protected

That pathetic man relies on your silence

I am terrified and frozen. You are correct. Our home is mortgaged but there is a decent amount of equity.

I think that if I start planning an international move the way my husband wants me to, it will delay the divorce (obviously). He is pressuring me to look for jobs abroad and wants me to start one in September, while encouraging me to quit my part time U.K. job. I was a SAHM and managed to rebuild my career. When I got this job (in Uk) he didn’t even congratulate me. On the first day of work, he didn’t celebrate or say well done. It is a professional level healthcare job. I have a lot of be proud of. The NhS team I am with has even been willing to be flexible with my hours and they value me and treat me with respect and kindness (which I don’t get from him). There is no way I am quitting the job.

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Hotflushesandchilblains · 09/02/2025 16:05

I was initially screaming no - but having read it, I would move when you have finished your course (if it will help you back home) - and then immediately divorce him. Maybe move into a very short term let over there, and then move immediately and take legal action against him. Hopefully he will be deported.

Switcher · 09/02/2025 16:05

Find out moe about the legal situation and how much support there might be in your home state for domestic violence and how robust the police response is.. Get over there and get him arrested as soon as you can as that should result in him being reported, but be careful of how much change Trump will bring. Don't move to anywhere in the US that would isolate you. I'm so sorry, it sounds awful.

Wavescrashingonthebeach · 09/02/2025 16:05

I think i remembered your older posts if it's you, is he the guy who threw a knife i think it was???
And your pastors wife was very dismissive of the DV?

Marriumph · 09/02/2025 16:15

OP, your case seems quite complicated when somehow I think it shouldn't be? This means you really need to seek legal advice and some sort of counsel on the actual steps you need to take to be free of this abusive man. Here you'd be getting a mix of opinions and some advice from all of us. I honestly fear for your life on your behalf and I feel the longer you wait, who knows what will happen?! I hope not!

Speak to someone at work who might be able to point you to the right place or simply find legal advice - and don't sugarcoat what's happening to you and your kids in your home - and start taking practical steps with their help to leave with your children ASAP! I'm so sorry you're going through this though!

wordler · 09/02/2025 16:16

PP makes a very good point about where in the US you would be moving to. Do you have family and friends there still?

If I were you I would apply for UK citizenship to future proof any move.

Get both sets of passports UK and US for the kids.

Don’t quit job - say it’s going to be an expensive process getting the spousal visa. It’s also going to take a while so plenty of time for you to finish qualification.

Decide for you if you really want to move home.

Start applying for jobs in the US that meet the income requirement for the visa. Move you and the kids over to establish domicile - say it looks more favorable to the visa people.

There are many points where the spousal visa can stall along the process.

He can visit for 90 days at a time while the process is ongoing but will need to spend more time outside the US than in or the border people get suspicious.

You could be there and established for six months to a year before he moves permanently.

AttilaTheMeerkat · 09/02/2025 16:21

What support would you receive in the US?. You do realise he will merely continue to abuse you there too. A move there is not going to change him.

I would seek legal advice from some local firms of Solicitors asap and divorce him in this country. I would also seek the services of a forensic accountant as these types of men hide money routinely.

He is not going to make the process of you divorcing him at all easy because he wants to punish you and he will remain abusive towards you all for the rest of your days. You absolutely have to push hard and hard now to free yourself and your kids from him.

You do not have the luxury of time here; every day with him is a nightmare for both you and your children who are in turn being abused by him. Do not wait till they are late teens, make the break far sooner than this. Another 7-10 years of this from him in particular will really mess your children up because they could well go onto be abused or the abuser in their adult relationships.

ShuffleShuffleSpin · 09/02/2025 16:22

Wavescrashingonthebeach · 09/02/2025 16:05

I think i remembered your older posts if it's you, is he the guy who threw a knife i think it was???
And your pastors wife was very dismissive of the DV?

Yes that is me. He threw scissors at me. I probably said “sharp object” in my post. I’m always a little afraid of being doxxed with too much detail.

OP posts:
Chuchoter · 09/02/2025 16:23

Get away from him asap before it escalates and you're dead

Ginflinger · 09/02/2025 16:23

I also think you should get legal advice, so you're crystal clear on your legal options both here and in the US. Is this possible?

A horrible situation to be in. I hope you and your children can be free of him. Good luck for a swift resolution.

Dysonairwrapisatthehotelmaybepossiblyprobably · 09/02/2025 16:24

It seems strange that he wants to move to the US given the state of the marriage.
Like a PP, I wondered if is some kind of trick. Though moving to your home country puts you in a stronger position.
Sorry if I missed it, is your H from the UK? The only thing I thought he could be planning, is getting you all back to the US and then returning to the UK with the DC under some false pretences and leaving you there and then not returning with the kids. That’s why I asked, is he from a 3rd country that would be more difficult to get your children home from.
Could you take legal advice from a solicitor here or in your home state and see how long it would take for your kids to be domiciled there and how a divorce would
impact his right to remain.
Going back home would seem to be a good outcome for you, if you can play the long game but please be careful, his violence could escalate if he feels he is losing control.

Wavescrashingonthebeach · 09/02/2025 16:25

ShuffleShuffleSpin · 09/02/2025 16:22

Yes that is me. He threw scissors at me. I probably said “sharp object” in my post. I’m always a little afraid of being doxxed with too much detail.

Edited

Im so sorry, I wouldn't want to compromise your privacy. Especially being married to a horror like him. Are you planning on leaving him yet?! Either in the US or UK? I think whatever option is going to be easiest to get the away from him for good. Its so upsetting for you and dc being with him.

AttilaTheMeerkat · 09/02/2025 16:30

OP
re your comment

"I know it’s crazy to even think of this, but the thought of moving to where I grew up so my kids can experience it really tugs at my heartstrings. I know how things work there and what opportunities exist for children etc. I start to think about how if we moved there and got divorced there, the kids and I might feel more supported since I know the community so well".

However, things change and in the US in particular. When was the last time you returned there?. You may well have an idealised view of it now and its certainly not the same as it was.

If it's his idea in the main to move back to the US I'd completely park the idea altogether because he is not acting in your best interests and he is no friend of yours.

How are rights for women re domestic violence and divorce in your home state?. I would seriously consider getting divorced int he UK as your marriage will end sooner then. Do the children have joint UK/US citizenship or are they UK citizens?.

All this and far more besides needs to be looked at from a legal standpoint and you need Solicitors urgently.

Bagpussnotbothered · 09/02/2025 16:32

I don't think you've got the luxury of time to complete the immigration process and get over there with him on a spousal visa. He has already thrown scissors; it could be a knife next time. Focus on the next steps to get away from him now.

Unexpectedlysinglemum · 09/02/2025 16:32

Hi op I'm so sorry you're in this situation

Please speak to a lawyer in the uk. I think there might be a chance you could flea without him being able to get you to come home - look up dr Charlotte proudman on Instagram she talks about a very similar case where a British woman fled the USA with her kids , so like you but the other way round.

If you take him to the USA that's great that you will be legally back in your country, but as you say if he established himself as the children's main caregiver being a homemaker he could argue for children to live with him full time at your expense in America. Scary thought.

His crimes against you are disgusting and he should be put in prison for them. Has he ever been arrested for them? If he is in prison then you should be allowed to leave the uk to get support from your family. You should also be able to get a non molestation order against him if you leave him safely.

Wishing you safety and strength. Please tell people you know and trust what you're going through - someone might know someone with a flat that you and the children could flee to.

Ughn0tryte · 09/02/2025 16:33

Is he not just emotionally abusing you by telling you what you want to hear?
You've always wanted a support network and live where you grew up - have you shared this with him?
What if this is a distraction to get you to leave, book 1 way ticket (to get a job or find a house) and then risk you not having the right to return?
Or if you reach out to family abroad, he changes his mind and then you've made them question your integrity.
Do what you want to do, don't tell him go along with what ever he says is best and then derail him.
Your children's happiness and welfare come first.

Unexpectedlysinglemum · 09/02/2025 16:34

Ps you've reported him to the police for dv but he didn't know? Didn't they arrest him? I thought you couldn't choose not to press charges?
Remember that social services will need to know you are safeguarding your children - women's aid can help with this.

Unexpectedlysinglemum · 09/02/2025 16:34

wordler · 09/02/2025 15:59

What would he think about you and the kids moving over ahead of him while the spousal visa is processing. So that you can get the job needed to sponsor him.

As I said it takes a while to get through the different stages.

You could be there with the kids for over six months before getting to the final stages of the visa. You would get to choose where you live and build a support network.

This is a great idea if he'd agree to it but it's likely that he'd argue she should leave the kids behind

ButIToldYouSoooo · 09/02/2025 16:36

Make the move, and as soon as he abuses you again, call the police, have him arrested, agree to press charges, tell him the marriage is done, and push for deportation.

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