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Mum hates my partner for no reason

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BeRubySquid · 26/01/2025 20:54

Before I launch into this I just wanted to give a bit of background which relates to the situation. I’m currently 36 weeks pregnant and got admitted to hospital a few days ago until my c section date. I’m absolutely fine health wise but it was just deemed safer to be here in case I go into labour. We’re also in the middle of moving house and the deadline to be out is this coming Friday.

so as above I’ve been admitted into hospital which has left my partner on his own to pack up our house, finish fitting the new bathroom in said house and then get the new house ready for us to move into (that house was being renovated and we’ve been let down time and time again by contractors, hence the close deadline) so it’s safe to say he’s had a lot of pressure on him and he’s trying to do all this while working full time and looking after an 8 year old, plus making sure I have everything I need in hospital.

when my mum found out I’d been admitted she offered to help my partner pack up the house, which we gratefully accepted. She turned up yesterday and instantly started judging our situation. She started having a go at him basically saying he wasn’t good enough for me and all of this was so unorganised and last minute and all of it was his fault. She also kept referring to me as “my daughter” the conversation ended with her telling him he isn’t good enough for me and I deserve better. Now this is a man at breaking point. He’s exhausted and struggling with the weight of everything and it is by no means his fault that this has been so last minute. We were let down time and time again by contractors and he’s done his absolute best to get the house done to a liveable standard. The long and short of it is that my mum is a raging snob. Everything is about appearances with her and she’s extremely judgemental. My partner rang me sounding like he was going to cry when he told me what she’d said, so I rang her and she admitted it all. Told me he isn’t good enough for me and that he’s controlling. I asked her how he’s controlling and she said because she’d asked him when I’m going back to work and he said he’d told her I don’t have to go back to work if I don’t want to because he earns enough to support us, but equally if I do I want to go back then obviously I will. She then asked me if I’m truly happy with him to which I obviously replied yes and she just huffed at me down the phone. The conversation ended with her saying she would walk away from my life and leave me to it, wished me luck with everything and then went.

she’s made digs at me about him in the past and I honestly don’t understand why. He’s literally never done anything to her and I’m the happiest I’ve ever been with him. She even moaned once because he offered to pay the bill when we went out for dinner for her birthday and she rang me and said he was showing off, but he was just being polite? So he’s never offered again.

I guess my reason for this post is advice on what to do when she inevitably gets in contact with me to try and see the baby. I’ve never had a close relationship with my mum and since being an adult I’ve kept her at arms length because she’s treated me badly in the past. I’ve maintained a relationship because I’ve felt bad that she lives on her own and if anything happened and we weren’t on speaking terms I don’t know if I would forgive myself, but equally being around her gives me crippling anxiety. I feel so angry at her for doing what she’s done and making my partner feel how she has, for no reason. I’m a level headed person and generally try and see both sides of a situation but with this I feel she is completely the one in the wrong. She will never accept this though and will never apologise.

If you’ve stayed with me this long, thank you! Any advise is much appreciated 😊

OP posts:
FoxtrotSkarloey · 27/01/2025 16:03

Sorry, I should have RTFT before posting. GOOD FOR YOU for deciding you don't want her in your life. The anxiety my DM causes be is unbearable.

HardenYourHeart · 27/01/2025 16:05

Your mom sounds awful for kicking you both when you are down, especially the abusive language she used towards your partner when you weren't there. I wonder if she actually wanted to help or abuse a vulnerable moment.

In either case, sorry you've found yourselves in this situation with regards to the hospital and the move. I think you have at least another month until the house needs to be ready. Could you get movers in? I used a company for this last time and they were great. You can even get them to pack up for you. They can do this in a day. That way your partner can focus on what he can still do for the house in the mean time.

BeRubySquid · 27/01/2025 17:05

HardenYourHeart · 27/01/2025 16:05

Your mom sounds awful for kicking you both when you are down, especially the abusive language she used towards your partner when you weren't there. I wonder if she actually wanted to help or abuse a vulnerable moment.

In either case, sorry you've found yourselves in this situation with regards to the hospital and the move. I think you have at least another month until the house needs to be ready. Could you get movers in? I used a company for this last time and they were great. You can even get them to pack up for you. They can do this in a day. That way your partner can focus on what he can still do for the house in the mean time.

Thank you, we’ve got to be out the house in a few days and no local movers have availability. Luckily his mum is now onboard to help! Our baby will be here Wednesday too just to add to the pressure! Things are getting done and we’re making progress so I’m hopeful we will be in in time 😊

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BeRubySquid · 27/01/2025 17:22

MsMarch · 27/01/2025 15:30

I know MN hates it when we suggest armchair diagnoses, for good reason, but this does rather sound like a classic narcissistic parent. She has controlled you through guilt and fear for years, positioned herself as the victim, and will, of course, loathe your partner if he's your main source of support becuase you are less likely to be as easily controlled by her.

I’ve suspected for a while that my mum is a narcissist. She has so many (not all) traits of it. It isn’t until more recently that people have told you how to deal with a narcissistic parent as it’s such a complex relationship. It’s the feeling obligated to maintain a relationship because “she is your mum don’t forget”

I said to her yesterday if you think for one second I won’t cut you off and I will allow you to speak to my partner in the way that you have and turn a blind eye then you’re very much mistaken! She just sat in silence. She’s tried to reach out today to see if I need anything and I just said no. She even went to the lengths yesterday of taking my clothes out the washing machine and putting them on the airer and then leaving my partners in there even though she knew he needed them. When he told me that today it cemented my decision.

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OhBow · 27/01/2025 17:38

If you need it there's an excellent subreddit called raised by narcissists, it's moderated unbelievably well and though I've never posted there, I would feel safe to.

It could offer you support, or after reading everyone's experiences, you may find it doesn't quite fit (only you know her).

For me, it didn't explain certain behaviours of my dm (around wanting to be babied and total lack of boundaries), and I found she fitted a different disorder too. Of course I can't diagnose her, but the types of abuse were astoundly similar among the posters there. Literally like we lived the same childhood.

It helped my finally let go of the guilt and fear that I basically deserved it.

BeRubySquid · 27/01/2025 18:45

OhBow · 27/01/2025 17:38

If you need it there's an excellent subreddit called raised by narcissists, it's moderated unbelievably well and though I've never posted there, I would feel safe to.

It could offer you support, or after reading everyone's experiences, you may find it doesn't quite fit (only you know her).

For me, it didn't explain certain behaviours of my dm (around wanting to be babied and total lack of boundaries), and I found she fitted a different disorder too. Of course I can't diagnose her, but the types of abuse were astoundly similar among the posters there. Literally like we lived the same childhood.

It helped my finally let go of the guilt and fear that I basically deserved it.

this is super helpful thank you! I’ve learnt over the last few days that I’ve carried a lot more trauma / anxiety because of her than I ever realised and I think when we’re home and settled, I will seek a bit of therapy for it because how she makes me feel isn’t normal, and I shouldn’t just detach whenever I’m around her.

OP posts:
pikkumyy77 · 27/01/2025 18:48

BeRubySquid · 27/01/2025 06:30

I think in today’s society marriage is irrelevant and very much a choice. You’ve assumed we’re not married, based on what I’m not sure.

Read half the threads in mumsnet and find out how very risky it is for women to rely on the good graces of unmarried partners—especially where children are involved.

OhBow · 27/01/2025 19:04

Best of luck OP. But beware, I've been to countless therapists and none have really understood the mentality of a mother whose aim is to be cruel to their child. Not by accident, but deliberately. Books and online groups have given me much more help.

If they try saying stuff like "she does her best" or "she loves you really" it can mess with your head. Real recovery includes working out from the ground up questions like what actually is love? What's kind and what's cruel? How much, if any, nastiness should a person accept from their parent?

Genuine hugs to you.

thistlepiedpiper · 27/01/2025 21:25

Oh my god honestly op I can't believe what I've read she is absolutely awful! How horrible to leave your partners washing in the machine when she's doing yours anyway
I am angry for you. As if you need this additional stress right now when you can't even leave the bloody hospital! It just screams controlling behaviour on her part that she can do what she wants because you're not around to step in and stop it
Good luck with the move, I'm positive this is going to be the most stressful time of you and your partners life however, you will be so happy in your forever home once it's done and with a bundle of joy in your arms hopefully this shitty situation is put on the back burner for you and your (very supportive and loving) dh

At least you know his worth and that's what's important.
All you can do is be a better mum than she has been and thank yourself lucky you never took her bad traits
Congratulations in advance to both you and your partner for Wednesday ❤️ I hope your DP gets through this shitty time. He sounds fab xxx

BeRubySquid · 28/01/2025 06:22

thistlepiedpiper · 27/01/2025 21:25

Oh my god honestly op I can't believe what I've read she is absolutely awful! How horrible to leave your partners washing in the machine when she's doing yours anyway
I am angry for you. As if you need this additional stress right now when you can't even leave the bloody hospital! It just screams controlling behaviour on her part that she can do what she wants because you're not around to step in and stop it
Good luck with the move, I'm positive this is going to be the most stressful time of you and your partners life however, you will be so happy in your forever home once it's done and with a bundle of joy in your arms hopefully this shitty situation is put on the back burner for you and your (very supportive and loving) dh

At least you know his worth and that's what's important.
All you can do is be a better mum than she has been and thank yourself lucky you never took her bad traits
Congratulations in advance to both you and your partner for Wednesday ❤️ I hope your DP gets through this shitty time. He sounds fab xxx

Thank you so much for your support! It’s not been easy at all and in terms of dealing with my mum, I could just really do without it at the moment! He’s been do amazing and I’m so grateful to him ❤️ my mum will never understand that there are good men out there that actually want to build a life with their partner! This time next week it will all just be a memory 😊

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BeRubySquid · 28/01/2025 14:19

OhBow · 27/01/2025 19:04

Best of luck OP. But beware, I've been to countless therapists and none have really understood the mentality of a mother whose aim is to be cruel to their child. Not by accident, but deliberately. Books and online groups have given me much more help.

If they try saying stuff like "she does her best" or "she loves you really" it can mess with your head. Real recovery includes working out from the ground up questions like what actually is love? What's kind and what's cruel? How much, if any, nastiness should a person accept from their parent?

Genuine hugs to you.

Thank you, I’ve had a few people say “oh you know what your mums like, she just says it how it is” or “it’s just because she cares” but to me that’s absolutely no excuse for her behaviour. You can be direct without being rude and spiteful. Control is also not caring. I’ve not told her my c section is tomorrow and part of me feels guilty? Should I at least let her know even though she isn’t welcome? Equally, I don’t want her to think me telling her is an olive branch because it definitely isn’t!

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OhBow · 28/01/2025 16:46

People who had "good enough" mums struggle to imagine it, and won't easily understand the risk she poses emotionally.

About tomorrow, try setting aside the guilt and think what you would advise a friend to do. The guilt is your biggest hurdle against protecting yourself. It should fade over time as you become increasingly sure her treatment of you wasn't your fault.

Do whatever will keep your stress levels lowest while you're going through such a momentous time. Do you have good relaxation/re-regulation skills, like breathing techniques and grounding exercises?

It's ok to shelve some of the thoughts about her for now, keep things as calm as possible, there's no rush to figure it out. Especialy as it could be a can of worms once you start.

Boomer55 · 28/01/2025 17:06

BeRubySquid · 27/01/2025 06:30

I think in today’s society marriage is irrelevant and very much a choice. You’ve assumed we’re not married, based on what I’m not sure.

It can be very relevant and important.

BeRubySquid · 28/01/2025 17:38

OhBow · 28/01/2025 16:46

People who had "good enough" mums struggle to imagine it, and won't easily understand the risk she poses emotionally.

About tomorrow, try setting aside the guilt and think what you would advise a friend to do. The guilt is your biggest hurdle against protecting yourself. It should fade over time as you become increasingly sure her treatment of you wasn't your fault.

Do whatever will keep your stress levels lowest while you're going through such a momentous time. Do you have good relaxation/re-regulation skills, like breathing techniques and grounding exercises?

It's ok to shelve some of the thoughts about her for now, keep things as calm as possible, there's no rush to figure it out. Especialy as it could be a can of worms once you start.

Yeah I get this! Not everyone was raised by this type of person. Thank you so much for your support. I’m going to have the baby, get the house straight and have a think when I’m feeling a bit stronger, but for now I’m not going to tell her when the baby is here. She’ll make it all about herself and I just can’t deal with that right now!

OP posts:
OhBow · 28/01/2025 21:50

Best of luck and protect yourself as if you were your own bodyguard 💖

lovemetomybones · 29/01/2025 10:15

Good luck with today xx thinking about you all xx

Sneezeless · 29/01/2025 10:45

@BeRubySquid

Does your partner have any family? If so what is your relationship like with them?

thistlepiedpiper · 29/01/2025 15:22

Wishing you all the best for today op - thinking of you! Xxx

Nantescalling · 29/01/2025 20:05

Waiting with baited breath !

ChemicalStatement · 11/02/2025 07:44

Hi

Your mother sounds narcisisstic.
Those people tend to team up with others similary toxic, agains their targets, but absolutely hate when you regain self respect and independence. And the one helping you do that becones their sworn enemy.

No contact is the only way to protect your sanity and your chosen family.

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BeRubySquid · 20/05/2025 15:16

Hello everyone 😊 I know it’s been a few months and I was going to start a new thread, but thought I would come back to this one as been as you were all so supportive! I had my daughter on the 29th January and she’s now a beautiful 3 1/2 month old! No idea where the last few months have gone, but I’m making the most of every cuddle and giggle 🥰 in terms of my mum, I messaged her to let her know the baby was here safely but just said I didn’t want to see her. She just said “ok, take care” she’s reached out a few times since but I’ve either been very short in my response or ignored her completely. I’ve still not seen her. She’s messaged again today randomly trying to reminisce about a day when we went to the garden centre and had asked if we can meet up for a walk and a coffee. In all honesty I’ve put off dealing with this because I’ve been consumed with being a new mum and I’ve put all my focus and energy into loving on my baby! So now I need to make a decision and it’s something I’m so conflicted with. 1. Do I forgive her and keep a relationship with her but set clear boundaries and if this happens, walk away? My concern with that is that if my daughter builds a relationship with her, I’m then being selfish by cutting that off, so I would then need to suffer for potentially another 20-25 years because I chose to let her back in again. 2. Do I cut her off completely, tell her I don’t want to hear from her again but then run the risk of feeling guilty if something were to happen to her, and then have to live with that for the rest of my life as well. I’m still extremely angry with her and when I think about how she treated my partner I feel this rage, but also sadness for him at how she made him feel. I understand no one can make this decision but me, but I’m just after a bit of advice or to know if any of you were in a similar situation and how you handled it. I think about this daily and it’s time I put my big girl pants on and dealt with it. Thanks so much!

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TheCatterall · 20/05/2025 15:29

@BeRubySquid congratulations and massive squishes to you all.

For what it’s worth - read back your posts. Even in your last post - putting out your washing but leaving his in…

Do you want that back in your life? You will be forever in tenterhooks waiting for her to start. Second guessing every comment and offer of help. It’s no way to live and she’s brought on herself.

Would you accept a friend behaving like this and leave them in your life? No. Just because you are related doesn’t make allowances for her behaviour. If anything it’s worse.

I know it’s hard - but just think of how safe an environment you are creating for your child to grow up in?

vix3rd · 20/05/2025 15:31

Argh didn't realise how old this post was.

BeNiceWhenItsFinished · 20/05/2025 15:43

"So now I need to make a decision and it's something I'm so conflicted with"

1 - you don't have to forgive her in order to have an arm's-length relationship, and you can make it quite clear that it is on your terms. 2 - how does your dp feel now? Would he be prepared for you to stay in contact with her, or would that make him feel awful because of how unpleasant she is to him?

Do you have siblings or aunts/uncles/cousins? If so, and you did cut contact with her, which way would they be likely to jump?

Lurkingandlearning · 20/05/2025 16:12

vix3rd · 20/05/2025 15:31

Argh didn't realise how old this post was.

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