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affair

80 replies

Angran1 · 15/01/2025 22:40

how do you get over affair

my world fell apart last week
found out partner has been havung am affair....

yes ive written on here before...

im devastated ,!!

we do want to work us out !!

OP posts:
StormingNorman · 16/01/2025 00:00

Not all OW mean something. Often the affair is purely selfish - the married partner needs something such as excitement or an ego boost. The woman is disposable.

OP if you want to work on your marriage you should do that. But your DP needs to put the work in too and it can take years before you can put this behind you.

MsDogLady · 16/01/2025 01:34

This is terrible, @Angran1. This affair is but one more shit sandwich that he has been serving you. As he has told you, “His wants come first.”

Like @TwistedWonder, I too wonder if this OW is the Ex Wife who has no clue you exist, or his Ex Fiancée whom your Partner keeps in frequent contact with. You have written numerous threads about your unhappiness with his callous disregard of your feelings and boundaries.

For 4 years he has adamantly refused to tell his Ex about you. He said he would at 2 years, but reneged. You feel humiliated and have issued ultimatums, but nothing changes. His lame excuse is fear of repercussions regarding contact with his non-verbal teenage son whom he sees regularly. You swap out living at each other’s homes, but you are expected to clear out of P’s house when his DS comes over. If you are there during their FaceTime visits, you cannot make a peep or even cough.

He fully supports his Ex financially, emotionally and practically. When she says jump, he asks how high.

Regarding the ExFiancee, he disregards your discomfort with their level of contact. In my view, he enjoys the gratification of having a harem, and you are the low man on the totem pole.

@Angran1, he has treated you with massive disrespect while you’ve given to him abundantly. It’s mind-boggling that you would even consider staying with this lying, cheating rat and settling for more of his shitty crumbs. Surely this is the nail in the coffin.

GentlyAnarchistic · 16/01/2025 01:45

When you posted before was it the same affair? Did he tell you after it'd stopped or was he caught? Did he see her again after you found out?
I assume that at some point (whether meant or not), every spouse expresses how devastating being unfaithful to them is and that they'd leave. With this in mind, no one has an affair (unless they have their partner's consent) without it meaning something because of what it risks, unless they hold you in complete contempt.

Elasticatedtrousers · 16/01/2025 06:42

I too have been on your previous threads and this is a man

  • you do not live with
  • who keeps you hidden (a total secret) from the mother of his child but regularly visits her and supports his family
  • who had an ex fiance he was secretly in touch with
  • and who has now cheated did he cheat with one of these two women or another?

You leave. Obviously.

He is not a safe partner for you and you're foolish for staying with all the other stuff going on let alone his cheating.

Angran1 · 16/01/2025 07:44

NoMoreOfThis · 15/01/2025 23:07

"How long have you been with him" that was meant to say.

4 yrs...yrs...he saw her 2

OP posts:
Elasticatedtrousers · 16/01/2025 07:51

He had an affair for two years of your four year relationship?

Come on... you're choosing your keep yourself in an unsafe relationship, your prerogative but he will cheat again.

Christl78 · 16/01/2025 08:11

StormingNorman · 16/01/2025 00:00

Not all OW mean something. Often the affair is purely selfish - the married partner needs something such as excitement or an ego boost. The woman is disposable.

OP if you want to work on your marriage you should do that. But your DP needs to put the work in too and it can take years before you can put this behind you.

Yes it can take years and life is short. Why not spend these years rebuilding oneself? Find a new trustworthy partner? Fall in love again?
When my partner cheated he begged me to stay (not that he gave a shit about mre, he just had a lot to lose) and told me he would give me all his passwords and his mobile phones/ipads etc. Really? I responded “who do you think you are that I am going to spend my life checking on you?”. Know your worth OP and If you have kids please show them this behaviour is unacceptable.

StrawberryDream24 · 16/01/2025 08:20

if you want to work on your marriage

Op hasn't said they're married (?)

And it sounds like she's been one of two women he's been seeing/involved with for quite some time.

StrawberryDream24 · 16/01/2025 08:23

Christl78 · 16/01/2025 08:11

Yes it can take years and life is short. Why not spend these years rebuilding oneself? Find a new trustworthy partner? Fall in love again?
When my partner cheated he begged me to stay (not that he gave a shit about mre, he just had a lot to lose) and told me he would give me all his passwords and his mobile phones/ipads etc. Really? I responded “who do you think you are that I am going to spend my life checking on you?”. Know your worth OP and If you have kids please show them this behaviour is unacceptable.

Like being someone's nanny/prison officer/parole officer/Mammy is a healthy choice for a woman.

What healthy person would want to spend their time monitoring another adult.

Ab adult who's proven themselves untrustworthy, disloyal, selfish and lacking integrity.

TwistedWonder · 16/01/2025 08:39

Elasticatedtrousers · 16/01/2025 06:42

I too have been on your previous threads and this is a man

  • you do not live with
  • who keeps you hidden (a total secret) from the mother of his child but regularly visits her and supports his family
  • who had an ex fiance he was secretly in touch with
  • and who has now cheated did he cheat with one of these two women or another?

You leave. Obviously.

He is not a safe partner for you and you're foolish for staying with all the other stuff going on let alone his cheating.

All of this ax well as cocklodges at her home then she isn’t allowed near his when it’s his turn to have his son despite them seeing each other for 4 years

He spent Christmas with his ex leaving OP on her own

OP - he treats you like a doormat and right now you’re lying down begging him to wipe his feet on you. Please ask yourself why you’re letting this man humiliate you time and time again and yet you go back for more punishment?

TheBroonOneAndTheWhiteOne · 16/01/2025 08:53

So @Angran1 is this a third woman in his life now?
Apart from the wife, who he left seven years ago, and the supposed fiancé, who he still contacts - and neither of them know about you........... is this a third woman?

He doesn't respect you @Angran1 and I'm sorry you're in this situation.

Can't you just end it? You're not divorced either. You have your own place. You don't live with this man.

Just end it.

ProjectsGalore · 16/01/2025 09:43

Just breathe a sigh of relief and move on. The trash took itself out!

StormingNorman · 16/01/2025 13:30

StrawberryDream24 · 16/01/2025 08:20

if you want to work on your marriage

Op hasn't said they're married (?)

And it sounds like she's been one of two women he's been seeing/involved with for quite some time.

Edited

Marriage/ long term relationship/ whatever

TwistedWonder · 16/01/2025 13:32

Angran1 · 16/01/2025 07:44

4 yrs...yrs...he saw her 2

So he’s cheated for half of your relationship?

SoScarletItWas · 16/01/2025 13:47

MsDogLady · 16/01/2025 01:34

This is terrible, @Angran1. This affair is but one more shit sandwich that he has been serving you. As he has told you, “His wants come first.”

Like @TwistedWonder, I too wonder if this OW is the Ex Wife who has no clue you exist, or his Ex Fiancée whom your Partner keeps in frequent contact with. You have written numerous threads about your unhappiness with his callous disregard of your feelings and boundaries.

For 4 years he has adamantly refused to tell his Ex about you. He said he would at 2 years, but reneged. You feel humiliated and have issued ultimatums, but nothing changes. His lame excuse is fear of repercussions regarding contact with his non-verbal teenage son whom he sees regularly. You swap out living at each other’s homes, but you are expected to clear out of P’s house when his DS comes over. If you are there during their FaceTime visits, you cannot make a peep or even cough.

He fully supports his Ex financially, emotionally and practically. When she says jump, he asks how high.

Regarding the ExFiancee, he disregards your discomfort with their level of contact. In my view, he enjoys the gratification of having a harem, and you are the low man on the totem pole.

@Angran1, he has treated you with massive disrespect while you’ve given to him abundantly. It’s mind-boggling that you would even consider staying with this lying, cheating rat and settling for more of his shitty crumbs. Surely this is the nail in the coffin.

@MsDogLady for president!

This is sadly a perfect summary of your situation, @Angran1 - please let this affair be the thing that makes the scales fall from your eyes. This is a terrible man!

Angran1 · 16/01/2025 15:33

he has now told his xwife about me
.

she had fugued it out.- all is good on that now
the x-from mang years ago knows

we are repairing...hopefully

OP posts:
Angran1 · 16/01/2025 15:41

let me clear this up
..

both ex,s now know about me. this was one of the conditions i set if there was a chsmce of us moving past this.

he told them both.
this i know...fact.

this person he cheated on me with i have confronted on the phone in his presence.
yes it was 2 yrs.
more a meeting for coffee occssionally, but yes they slept togeher twice too....she lives herts we live kent amd i know when too due to things occuring raising my suspicions !!
ive invested a lot in this relationship

OP posts:
MayaPinion · 16/01/2025 15:43

Good grief. He sounds awful and he has treated you appallingly. He has cheated on you for a long time, put you last repeatedly, and lied to you over and over again. Why on earth do you want to stay with this booby prize? Is it his wealth, power, or prowess?

LifeExperience · 16/01/2025 15:43

Why do you want to be with a lying cheat? Cheaters don't stop. He's not going to suddenly decide to be a faithful partner. That's not who he is, and if I understand correctly, he's been cheating for two out of the four years you've been together. That's horrific, and a good indicator that being a lying cheat is as much a part of him as his eye colour is.

He will do this again and again until you end the relationship. The question you need to ask yourself is WHY you don't think that you deserve better than a lying cheat. Because you do deserve better. Every woman does.

TwistedWonder · 16/01/2025 15:48

Why are you allowing yourself to be treated like a doormat? Hrs a lying cheat who treats you like you’re bottom of his list of priorities and yet you just shrug your shoulders and let him keep taking you for a mug.

Seriously where is your self respect and dignity? No man is worth how you’re allowing him to treat you.

Does the fact you’ve posted thread after thread about how he treats you and the responses have been pretty much unanimous about how scummy he is mean nothing?

DaisyChain505 · 16/01/2025 15:56

This wasn’t a stupid one night stand, it was a TWO year relationship.

You haven’t been in a 20 year relationship with normal ups and downs you’re in a fresh 4 year relationship.

This man has lied to you, deceived you and made you look a complete fool. He is not the person you thought he was.

Let.him.go

Elasticatedtrousers · 16/01/2025 16:16

I'm sorry, I am actually a believer that reconciliation can work but this man's ability to compartmentalise and seek validation from other women means he is absolutely not a safe bet.

This is just a four year relationship. As far as i know from your posts, you don't even live with him. Why on earth would you stay?

He will cheat again.

Starlight1984 · 16/01/2025 16:19

Is this an affair with his ex who you've posted about multiple times before @Angran1 ?

Starlight1984 · 16/01/2025 16:23

Angran1 · 16/01/2025 15:41

let me clear this up
..

both ex,s now know about me. this was one of the conditions i set if there was a chsmce of us moving past this.

he told them both.
this i know...fact.

this person he cheated on me with i have confronted on the phone in his presence.
yes it was 2 yrs.
more a meeting for coffee occssionally, but yes they slept togeher twice too....she lives herts we live kent amd i know when too due to things occuring raising my suspicions !!
ive invested a lot in this relationship

So he has only just told his exes about you (after keeping you hidden for 4 years) but you've now found out he has also been having an affair for 2 years with someone completely different?

Wow. Your standards are literally in the gutter.

ProjectsGalore · 16/01/2025 17:04

I am worried about you and why you want to fix this. He clearly treats you with contempt and can't tell the truth or be faithful at all. He doesn't care about you or your feelings he is using you and will break your heart again and again. Try to find some strength to end this as you will never be happy with this poor excuse for a man.