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Wonderful relationship but he doesn't want to live together

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BoxOfCats · 10/01/2025 02:44

I have been seeing a wonderful man for 18 months. We are the same age (40s), both no kids, both divorced, both left our respective long term relationships 2 years ago. So we met each other when we were quite newly single - in fact I was DP's first online date! We live separately, around 20 mins apart.

The issue is that I would like us to move in together, but DP isn't keen to yet. Says it's too soon for him, he doesn't feel ready for that kind of commitment, and he values his own space (he is very introverted and enjoys doing his own thing).

I am reluctant to walk away because he js in every other way the perfect partner. Kind, considerate, funny, handsome, smart. He otherwise makes me feel very loved and cared for, and always prioritises his time for me even though we live separately- messages daily, spends 3 nights a week & most of every weekend with me.

He had a harder time than I did moving on from his divorce - he ended it with his ex so carried a lot of guilt. He also says he realised he hadn't been very good at being in touch with or processing his own emotions let alone sharing these with others, which meant he eventually realised he was quite unhappy (both with his relationship as well as life generally). He has been in counselling for this since before he split with his ex. A key issue is that he has felt "stuck", feeling scared to make big decisions in case he gets them wrong (e.g. how to plan financially for his future, what to do with his career, etc).

In the 18 months I've known him, he's made a lot of progress with these issues (e.g. now has a plan for the financial stuff), and has gotten noticeably better at processing his feelings and opening up about them, to the point where we have a really good emotional connection. The one big area he still seems stuck on is living together, he seems too scared to commit, but is also very aware of the impact of not doing so.

I'm unsure whether to keep going or stick it out in the hope that he will get there in tjme. It is important to me to be able to build a future together with someone. However, we have an otherwise wonderful relationship (great emotional intimacy, not to mention sparks fly in the bedroom), we still plan and commit to things like holidays, and he is clearly on a journey of self development and making progress. We also spend loads of time together despite living apart. I don't feel ready to walk away and would really regret not giving him enough of a chance as he is otherwise my perfect man! Am I being silly to keep going with this in the hope we will get there eventually?

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LikeWhoUsesTypewritersAnyway · 10/01/2025 12:07

TheFormidableMrsC · 10/01/2025 11:08

This would be my ideal set up. Indeed every other weekend would suit me. Why on Earth are you considering ending a lovely relationship because of having separate properties? I think that would be very foolish. It's a new relationship, 18 months is no time at all. Leave things be.

Yeah this. ^ I would imagine this to be every woman's dream! It's very unusual for a woman to be desperate to move in with a man, and many women (whilst they do love their DH/DP) actually NEED time away from him/time alone in the house without him there...

Most women in new-ish relationships that I have ever known prefer time alone without their man some days. And are happy to not live with him! (Many women who are married/in a LTR need time away from their DH too!)

@BoxOfCats re; your situation, it's usually the man who wants to move in (often as he wants a housekeeper/someone to do his chores for him.) Even my DH when we first met, was desperate for me to stay over at Christmas with him and his parents and brother. Sharing his single bed with him, and having Christmas Day dinner and Boxing Day buffet with him and his family. 😖

And he admitted he wanted me to move in. He wanted us to be together 24/7, and it was suffocating. I refused and said I am staying with my parents. (We had been together 5 months at that point!) I did NOT move in with his parents. Fuck me. Perish the thought! 😆 When I said NO, he started looking for a flat for us. After 5 months! I had a go at him, and said 'JUST STOP!'

We moved in after nearly 2 years by the way.

We have been together nearly 40 years now, and as much as I love him, I need time away from him sometimes. He is 60-ish, and apart from going to work 26 hours a week, he rarely leaves the house. He just sits watching TV, or sits on his computer. I have to put a stick of dynamite up his arse to get him to leave the house. (He always enjoys himself when he does actually come out with me!) He never goes out without me. (Only to the GP or dentist.) He says he gets lonely on his own!

Me though, I LOVE being alone, and because he is always stuck in the house (when not at work) I go for lots of walks, and see friends regularly and go to several hobby groups. I spend a lot of time in the garden in summer too. (He hates sitting in the garden, and finds it boring.)

No WAY would I ever EVER live with any man again if we split up. There are times when I enjoy living with DH, but some days I do wish we lived in separate houses, half a mile from each other!

@BoxOfCats You have only known this man 18 months. Why the rush to move in with him? At least one of you is going to have to give up the security of their own home. For someone they met the summer before last. No. Just no.

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VoltaireMittyDream · 10/01/2025 12:09

I wouldn’t want to live with someone with a history of indecision and getting ‘stuck’ with issues of life planning. Been there, done that. Keep it separate so that you can cut and run if he gets mired in anxious inertia and tries to trap you there with him.

Purplecatshopaholic · 10/01/2025 12:11

Good grief, why the rush? Calm down and enjoy your life and your relationship. Plenty of time to live together or not. Living ‘ together apart’ is a thing too now (and sounds great frankly - many women would love to do it rather than live together).

SallyWD · 10/01/2025 12:11

ChoppedLivers · 10/01/2025 11:47

I’ve also known friends in that type of situation, and what I have seen repeatedly happen is that the man ends the relationship and then meets another woman who he is commits to quickly and enthusiastically - whether it’s kids/marriage/moving in together. It was never about “fear of commitment/need for own space etc.” it was just that they didn’t want to commit to that woman in particular !

From what I know of and have seen or relationships, when a man is really keen, he is quick to push for or agree to commitment as he sees the woman as so brilliant that he thinks he is incredibly lucky to have her interest and that there is always a real risk of losing her to someone else. Lukewarm isn’t a good sign.

I disagree. Whilst this can certainly be the case, there are plenty of people who simply like to live alone. Look at all the replies to this thread. 90% of people are saying 18 months is too soon and they'd love to live in separate house. This is a man in his 40s whose marriage broke up 2 years ago, who's only known OP 18 months and who's an introvert. In his position, I absolutely would want to maintain my own house.

EducatingArti · 10/01/2025 12:18

This sounds close to my ideal arrangement for a relationship!

Startinganew32 · 10/01/2025 12:19

Is this just because society says that you’re only a real couple or he’s only your partner if you live together? Because that’s bullshit. You can be completely committed and live separately. You see each other most of the week but have the option of solo time when you want. I presume you are both financially stable in which case what needs to change?

Tbh I think people on here are a big cause of this desperation of needing to live together, needing to get married. I’ve seen so many times people saying “he’s not your partner, he’s just your boyfriend” just because a couple don’t live together.

I know several married couple who live apart for most of the time, either out of choice or due to work. They are happy and it works for them. One of them has said that the marriage wouldn’t have lasted if her DH was at home all the time (he works away for more than half the time).

Slow down and chill out or you will find you have the fun of online dating again and will wonder why precisely you ditched the kind, handsome funny man that you had great chemistry with.

Startinganew32 · 10/01/2025 12:20

From what I know of and have seen or relationships, when a man is really keen, he is quick to push for or agree to commitment as he sees the woman as so brilliant that he thinks he is incredibly lucky to have her interest and that there is always a real risk of losing her to someone else. Lukewarm isn’t a good sign.

Yeah in a romcom maybe…

TwistedWonder · 10/01/2025 12:21

I’m really not sure how not wanting to cohabitate equals lack of commitment, lukewarm or part time boyfriend tbh.

It’s the perfect scenario for many older people who are completely committed to their partner but want to maintain their own space. Ok if it’s not what the OP wants that’s her call but don’t throw away a good thing without both spelling out to each other why their living arrangements are so important.

As we’ve seen by this thread and certainly in my real world experience, I don’t know many women who actually want to cohabitate again but they’re completely committed to their partners.

rainbowstardrops · 10/01/2025 12:26

I can't see the issue right now. He's 'perfect' in every other way, so why consider ending it?!
I'd hazard a guess that lots of relationships would last longer if people had their own space and didn't live together!
It's been 18 months. Not 18 years!

Havalona · 10/01/2025 12:33

You sound very needy. Why?

Just look at many posts here where women would give anything to live on their own away from, well you know...

But look, dump him, because he is a sensible person and can probably sense the neediness of you and is swerving it quite rightly.

If you can't or won't enjoy the current set up, leave him be and find someone who will do as you want.

DottieMoon · 10/01/2025 12:34

YABU, 18 months is not a long time at all for a relationship and he is being completely sensible and rational.
Why are you in such a rush? I don’t understand why at all you are thinking of ending the relationship at all over this, big red flag from your side. You will end up ruining the relationship by being pushy and overbearing and will have no one to blame but yourself.

BruFord · 10/01/2025 12:35

TwistedWonder · 10/01/2025 12:21

I’m really not sure how not wanting to cohabitate equals lack of commitment, lukewarm or part time boyfriend tbh.

It’s the perfect scenario for many older people who are completely committed to their partner but want to maintain their own space. Ok if it’s not what the OP wants that’s her call but don’t throw away a good thing without both spelling out to each other why their living arrangements are so important.

As we’ve seen by this thread and certainly in my real world experience, I don’t know many women who actually want to cohabitate again but they’re completely committed to their partners.

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I agree, @TwistedWonder . I’m 50 and if my marriage ended and I met someone else, I wouldn’t want to move in together. Having your own space is wonderful, especially if you’re introverted as this man is. He needs alone time to recharge.

Enjoy the relationship, OP, you don’t need to live together to be happy.

Zippedydodah · 10/01/2025 12:39

TwistedWonder · 10/01/2025 12:21

I’m really not sure how not wanting to cohabitate equals lack of commitment, lukewarm or part time boyfriend tbh.

It’s the perfect scenario for many older people who are completely committed to their partner but want to maintain their own space. Ok if it’s not what the OP wants that’s her call but don’t throw away a good thing without both spelling out to each other why their living arrangements are so important.

As we’ve seen by this thread and certainly in my real world experience, I don’t know many women who actually want to cohabitate again but they’re completely committed to their partners.

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I definitely wouldn’t want to live with a man again!
I don’t understand why the OP is willing to chuck in what appears to me to be the perfect solution.

canyouletthedogoutplease · 10/01/2025 12:44

wineandagoodbook · 10/01/2025 08:42

I wish I was in a relationship where we lived separately 🙏😂

You and plenty of other people. I think most relationships would benefit from seperate front doors, and thrive in a similar situation.

I think you would be silly to end it, and I feel if you could adjust your mindset OP from one where you're on an escalator up through the tick boxes and until you get there you're just biding your time, to actually enjoying having a boyfriend who you like spending time with who seems to have his head screwed on.

If you move in together will you feel a similar race to the end of the aisle? Allow yourself to appreciate the positives of the situation which there are many, and not ruin today by wishing for tomorrow.

TwistedWonder · 10/01/2025 12:45

BruFord · 10/01/2025 12:35

I agree, @TwistedWonder . I’m 50 and if my marriage ended and I met someone else, I wouldn’t want to move in together. Having your own space is wonderful, especially if you’re introverted as this man is. He needs alone time to recharge.

Enjoy the relationship, OP, you don’t need to live together to be happy.

I’ve been single 5 years and I can’t imagine ever wanting to live with a man again. I live my own space and spreading out across my king size bed is wonderful!

I dated a guy for over 2 years after my divorce and he made a few noises about moving in and I did think that I was as happy how things were and wasn’t sure if that’s for me anymore.

5 years after we split I know 100% I’d never cohabit again. Separate homes, spending nights together but having nights apart as well is the holy grail for most of us divorced women now

TheDogsMother · 10/01/2025 12:46

Me and now DH lived like this for the first seven years and it was great. Why would you consider ending the relationship over this ?

ItGhoul · 10/01/2025 12:47

Why are you so desperate to live with him? You have a great relationship including a good sex life and you've only been seeing him 18 months. To me, this seems like a grand example of 'if it ain't broke, don't fix it'.

I know many couples who would be a lot happier if they lived in separate properties. It's often all the domestic stuff that kills off the romance, isn't it?

If I split up with my DP, there's no way I'd want to live with someone again. I'd much rather live separately and have all the fun of a relationship with none of the domestic stuff and each having our own space.

Dweetfidilove · 10/01/2025 12:49

He sounds a sensible and reasonable man to me. As others asked - why are you rushing? You been through some much in the last 2 years.

justthatreallyagain · 10/01/2025 12:53

It would be unusual for a couple to emotionally be in the same place at the same time and since it appears you don’t have a fertility deadline to think about - what’s the rush? Mentally set yourself a deadline but 18months seems too soon to dump a man you seem to like so much!

trapforsanta · 10/01/2025 12:55

Has OP said she doesn't want children? I'm wondering if her vision (not communicated to the bf) is marriage and kids?

Munkypuppy · 10/01/2025 12:58

Im surprised at your age you're in such a rush, do you think you might be being a bit needy? Its a green flag from him that he's taking it slow imo

SlipperyLizard · 10/01/2025 13:01

Like others, I’ve already decided I won’t live with a man again if anything happened to me & DH. Perhaps this man is the same?

I don’t think it is a reason to end an otherwise good relationship!

MiddleAgedDread · 10/01/2025 13:01

I agree with PP that 18months seems nothing. I'm 10-11months into a relationship (both 40's, and both been single for much longer than you) and there's no way I'd be pushing to move in together in 6 months time, it feels way too early, particular as we're past the age of planning to have kids together and both own property.

TwistedWonder · 10/01/2025 13:02

trapforsanta · 10/01/2025 12:55

Has OP said she doesn't want children? I'm wondering if her vision (not communicated to the bf) is marriage and kids?

As they’re both in their 40’s I think most of us presumed kids on on the cards

Normallynumb · 10/01/2025 13:35

I think this sounds like the ideal relationship.
You get on well, he's kind and thoughtful, you spend lots of time together and he only lives 20 minutes away.
The saying " if it ain't broke, don't try to fix it" comes to mind
Spend the time you don't see him to do what you like to do.

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