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Wife’s walked out on me after 30years and says she doesn’t love me !

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Blimeyagain · 20/11/2024 22:46

My wife of 30 years together—15 years of engagement and 15 years of marriage, filled with ups and downs—has walked out on me and is staying at her single female friend’s house. She has come back a few times to do things for the kids and, on occasion, has even cooked tea for us. I spoke to her three days after she left, and she told me she didn’t love me and had been unhappy for a long time. This came as a shock to me because we have always had a great social and sex life, and we’re often out socializing with friends.

Recently, we’ve had some heated arguments, though she only once threatened to leave. I managed to talk her around that time, and everything seemed fine the next day. However, during another argument, I told her to “shove it,” and this time, she did. She walked out and has been staying at her friend’s house ever since.

She’s been gone two weeks now, and there’s no sign of her wanting to move back in. When she comes around, if I don’t bring up the subject of getting back together, it’s almost like she never left. We get along great during these visits, but when it’s time to leave, she simply says, “Right, I’m off now,” and returns to her friend’s house. She gets on really well with her single friend, who has a nice house, and she has told me she can stay there as long as she wants.

She’s going through the change at the moment as well, so I know that doesn’t help. But in 30 years of being with her, she has never said she doesn’t love me or not come back home after an argument. She’s never had a situation like this before, with a single friend who has a house she can use at her will, so I know that’s not helping the situation either.

But I can’t carry on like this. I need to know where I stand. I’m not here just to be friends with her—I need more. I want us to get back to how we were.

Every time I approach the subject, though, it doesn’t go well. She seems to me like she’s had enough of me but still wants to be friends.

OP posts:
MinnieMouse200 · 21/11/2024 01:45

Speak to her again and then come back and we can go from there. All will be well OP.

Neurodiversitydoctor · 21/11/2024 01:46

Mybadcat · 21/11/2024 00:14

Come on everyone having a go at him for referring to his wife's age "the change" wasn't the best thing to say. But judging by the fact he's been with his wife 30 years suggests he's a slightly maturer man and that expression did use to get used a lot.

Give him a break.

But dependent children suggests they are 50s at most, not even my DPs in their mid 70's call it that. It is pre WW2 terminology.

Blimeyagain · 21/11/2024 01:47

Grabyourpassportandmyhand · 21/11/2024 01:45

Is there a reason you are so reluctant to tell us the kid’s ages OP?

18 and 12

OP posts:
Blimeyagain · 21/11/2024 01:48

MinnieMouse200 · 21/11/2024 01:45

Speak to her again and then come back and we can go from there. All will be well OP.

Thanks Minnie your a star ⭐️

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CelestiaNoctis · 21/11/2024 01:49

I'm really sorry this has happened. I can only give two theories of the most likely scenarios. 1. She's been unhappy and mentioned it several times in subtle ways that you've missed. For example, maybe the housework or childcare has been one sided and you've not changed to help with that and shes been quietly stewing or perhaps she did say somerhing and you didnt listen. 2. She and her new friend are not just friends and she's found a new romantic interest. One you can't compete with as they're another woman. I'm not trying to sound judgemental and if you didn't do your fair share, that happens with a lot of men so it is what it is. But those are just 2 ideas that came to mind to explain the sudden behaviour. In my opinion, I'd tell her that I'm clearly clueless to what's happened but I'm sorry and I love her. And that I'm there for her whatever happens and I'm grateful for the beautiful life and love we have shared. And that she at least needs to be clear about what to do for the children, that's all. And then I would just give her space and would focus on healing myself and learning to be alone before eventually, possibly, being able to find someone else. But I definitely wouldn't spring onto anyone else straight away with baggage. You need time to heal, if she really isn't coming back. Again I'm sorry, whatever the cause, you deserve better.

Grabyourpassportandmyhand · 21/11/2024 01:52

Blimeyagain · 21/11/2024 01:47

18 and 12

The youngest especially must find this tough.

Did she say anything to the kids before she moved out? Were they surprised when she left or did they know she was very unhappy and/or going to move out?

NoisyDenimShaker · 21/11/2024 01:53

RockyFowlboa · 21/11/2024 01:37

I guess that's why the divorce rates are so high nowadays. People want to run away and play games and fight each other like enemies, instead of remembering that they're a team, and looking for solutions to their problems together.

Yes. And people think it's OK not to honour their vows, because they fell out of love for no reason/had their head turned/their partner is no longer young/got ill. Love is a choice.

Of course, there are many awful marriages, and those should end.

Blimeyagain · 21/11/2024 01:54

Grabyourpassportandmyhand · 21/11/2024 01:52

The youngest especially must find this tough.

Did she say anything to the kids before she moved out? Were they surprised when she left or did they know she was very unhappy and/or going to move out?

Complete shock especially my youngest ! But she is in contact with them and has seen them

OP posts:
NoisyDenimShaker · 21/11/2024 01:54

Grabyourpassportandmyhand · 21/11/2024 01:52

The youngest especially must find this tough.

Did she say anything to the kids before she moved out? Were they surprised when she left or did they know she was very unhappy and/or going to move out?

Yes, the youngest will be reeling. What kind of mother walks out on their 12-year-old daughter with no warning?? I don't have kids, but if I did, nothing could have made me do that to her!

Katej82 · 21/11/2024 01:55

RockyFowlboa · 21/11/2024 01:42

Have you expressed these things to him?

Yes he's had enough chances I just need to either live with it or end it I don't want to go through this again I won't ever date anyone again I just wouldn't want to. I've been married before and really I thought that was for life we were married too young deep caring love but I was never in love. So I met my now husband 6 years ago but we knew each other years ago. Thing is I've stayed the same slim healthy active look good for a woman with kids so I'm told. He's piled on weight like 5 stone so I think part of it is his confidence it doesn't bother me in the slightest I still think he's gorgeous but it's how he feels but he just won't stop eating rubbish. He's just not bothered cares about himself it went really great before we got married which is why we decided to thought we were madly in love I was crazy about him I now resent him for making me so unhappy and feeling so unloved. Hope you work it out and I'm so sorry

Katej82 · 21/11/2024 01:57

NoisyDenimShaker · 21/11/2024 01:54

Yes, the youngest will be reeling. What kind of mother walks out on their 12-year-old daughter with no warning?? I don't have kids, but if I did, nothing could have made me do that to her!

💯 agree

maverickfox · 21/11/2024 02:04

3luckystars · 20/11/2024 23:06

If she has left you to just be alone, things must have been very bad.

Would she go to counselling? Would you be willing to listen if there was a mediator present?

Why should she go to counselling? It seems the OP might benefit more.

Neurodiversitydoctor · 21/11/2024 02:06

NoisyDenimShaker · 21/11/2024 01:54

Yes, the youngest will be reeling. What kind of mother walks out on their 12-year-old daughter with no warning?? I don't have kids, but if I did, nothing could have made me do that to her!

What kind of mother ? A deeply unhappy one. 1,000s of men do this everyday nobody says what kind of father does this ?

NoisyDenimShaker · 21/11/2024 02:08

Neurodiversitydoctor · 21/11/2024 01:46

But dependent children suggests they are 50s at most, not even my DPs in their mid 70's call it that. It is pre WW2 terminology.

Is it?? I call it the change, and I'm not old! I remember it being referred to as the change on the American sitcom Two and a Half Men, made in 2003. I'm sure I've heard it referred to as that on other modern US TV and films.

maverickfox · 21/11/2024 02:09

NoisyDenimShaker · 21/11/2024 01:54

Yes, the youngest will be reeling. What kind of mother walks out on their 12-year-old daughter with no warning?? I don't have kids, but if I did, nothing could have made me do that to her!

Maybe the kind of mother who is deeply unhappy at home. Maybe she is trying to find a way to have them with her as maybe she thinks moving them out of the marital home is too disruptive for them. Basically, you haven’t got a clue about her motivation.

Honestly, some of the response on here are positively antidiluvian.

merrywidow · 21/11/2024 02:12

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Neurodiversitydoctor · 21/11/2024 02:14

NoisyDenimShaker · 21/11/2024 02:08

Is it?? I call it the change, and I'm not old! I remember it being referred to as the change on the American sitcom Two and a Half Men, made in 2003. I'm sure I've heard it referred to as that on other modern US TV and films.

Are you American ? Maybe it's more common there ? 48 here and neither me, any of my friends or my mother age 75 say anything other than the menopause.

MinnieMouse200 · 21/11/2024 02:15

maverickfox · 21/11/2024 02:09

Maybe the kind of mother who is deeply unhappy at home. Maybe she is trying to find a way to have them with her as maybe she thinks moving them out of the marital home is too disruptive for them. Basically, you haven’t got a clue about her motivation.

Honestly, some of the response on here are positively antidiluvian.

Just learnt a new word after a quick google! Who knew I could use middle of the night Mumsnet to improve my vocabulary 😂😁

NoisyDenimShaker · 21/11/2024 02:17

Neurodiversitydoctor · 21/11/2024 02:06

What kind of mother ? A deeply unhappy one. 1,000s of men do this everyday nobody says what kind of father does this ?

People absolutely do say what kind of father does this. I would.

There are ways to split up, and ways not to split up. You sit your partner down, break the news, and then you work out together where the leaving partner will go and when. Then you tell the kids together, and the leaving partner moves out once suitable accommodation has been found.

This walking-out business is taking the low road. That poor 12-year-old. Spouses suddenly walking out is a behaviour that's on the rise. Vikki Stark talks about in in her book, Runaway Husbands. Maybe it's the marital equivalent of ghosting, which has also become more common over the past few years.

There is no need for the amateur dramatics of someone flouncing out on their marriage in such a sudden way. It's unnecessarily cruel. People have had heart attacks over less. It demonstrates a cold disregard for the other person's humanity. Leave if you must, but do it with honour, as described above.

NoisyDenimShaker · 21/11/2024 02:20

maverickfox · 21/11/2024 02:09

Maybe the kind of mother who is deeply unhappy at home. Maybe she is trying to find a way to have them with her as maybe she thinks moving them out of the marital home is too disruptive for them. Basically, you haven’t got a clue about her motivation.

Honestly, some of the response on here are positively antidiluvian.

Maybe she thinks moving them out of the marital home is too disruptive? Read the OP's post - she flounced out suddenly in the middle of a row! Yes, maybe she'd been unhappy for years, but walking out like that is not on! I can't believe she did that to her daughter.

NoisyDenimShaker · 21/11/2024 02:24

Neurodiversitydoctor · 21/11/2024 02:14

Are you American ? Maybe it's more common there ? 48 here and neither me, any of my friends or my mother age 75 say anything other than the menopause.

Not American but watch lots of American stuff! Yes, maybe more common there. The character who used it in the scene I'm thinking of was only early forties. I'm not sure what terms are used here, as tbh none of my friends ever talk about menopause! It's like everyone's too embarrassed to admit if they have any signs of peri. Any enquiries are met with "Firing on all cylinders, thank you!" and the like. I'm the only one who admits my status! (Just turned 50, been peri since 43, and hopefully have had my last period as nothing since August, after a couple of years with looong delays.)

PyongyangKipperbang · 21/11/2024 02:25

@Blimeyagain

I was very good friends with a woman who did a similar thing. Short version is that she was/is a lesbian. She loved her husband as a father but not as a partner and when she judged (wrongly as it turned out) her kids were old enough to deal with it, she left to live with her "friend". She thought that her kids would support her and move with her, she was wrong.

She is very happy with her wife, but the kids live with their dad and have a superficial relationship with their mother. Sounds very similiar. I may be wrong, but I think that you need to consider this as a possibility.

As is a oft said on MN "cherchez la femme".

maverickfox · 21/11/2024 02:25

NoisyDenimShaker · 21/11/2024 02:20

Maybe she thinks moving them out of the marital home is too disruptive? Read the OP's post - she flounced out suddenly in the middle of a row! Yes, maybe she'd been unhappy for years, but walking out like that is not on! I can't believe she did that to her daughter.

Oh for heaven’s sake! Men do it all the time but you don’t actually know her side of the story. There could be a lot more to this than meets the eye.

NoisyDenimShaker · 21/11/2024 02:28

maverickfox · 21/11/2024 02:25

Oh for heaven’s sake! Men do it all the time but you don’t actually know her side of the story. There could be a lot more to this than meets the eye.

Yes, men do it all the time, but it doesn't mean it's right!

Of course there is more to the story, but unless you fear for your safety, imo there is NO excuse for walking out like that. NO reason why the couple can't discuss a split and organise it properly, instead of Amateur Dramatics hour and giving someone the shock of their life. People have had heart attacks after shocks like that. It's a truly vile thing to do to someone.

maverickfox · 21/11/2024 02:29

NoisyDenimShaker · 21/11/2024 02:28

Yes, men do it all the time, but it doesn't mean it's right!

Of course there is more to the story, but unless you fear for your safety, imo there is NO excuse for walking out like that. NO reason why the couple can't discuss a split and organise it properly, instead of Amateur Dramatics hour and giving someone the shock of their life. People have had heart attacks after shocks like that. It's a truly vile thing to do to someone.

Give me a break.

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