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Man with a fearful avoidant attachment style

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Trustissuesoffputting · 16/11/2024 08:49

Over the past couple of months what was as a platonic friendship has begun to turn into something a bit more. Nothing physical has happened yet but we've been spending time together and talking every day.

We both like one another a lot, that much is certain, but he has opened up about having some quite significant trust issues, to the extent he doesn't feel like he can trust "anybody". He gets anxious when he starts to develop feelings and apparently how he feels about me is triggering that. I think he's a textbook fearful avoidant, but atleast has some self awareness. Blind hope perhaps?

It's beginning to feel like this will be hard work and the push/pull will drive me up the wall but at the same time I'm disappointed as (this aside) we have so much in common and he's a really nice bloke.

Would you be prepared to deal with somebody like this, encourage them to work on their issue's or would you just draw a line and move on?

NC'd.

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Trustissuesoffputting · 16/11/2024 12:23

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We know one another in person, see each other frequently, him going out of his way to make it even more frequent even.

He's a dad from school and our children are friendly. I know, I know 😔

I can only see that now because it's gone to shit though. If you'd have asked before my eyes were opened I'd have said how wonderful it was to have this budding connection with somebody else who's in my exact position. Lone parent, gets it, it would have been a good match on paper. So I thought.

Anxious and avoidant is definitely not a good mix.

I suppose atleast I can walk away with my dignity in tact somewhat, I didn't make a total fool of myself and did a pretty good job of painting the illusion of 'I know my worth mate, ship up or ship out' at the end.

It could be worse couldn't it?

You're all great. Thank you.

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CurlewKate · 16/11/2024 12:24

Never start a relationship with a "fixer-upper". It won't end well.

Error404pagenotfound · 16/11/2024 12:24

Trustissuesoffputting · 16/11/2024 12:23

We know one another in person, see each other frequently, him going out of his way to make it even more frequent even.

He's a dad from school and our children are friendly. I know, I know 😔

I can only see that now because it's gone to shit though. If you'd have asked before my eyes were opened I'd have said how wonderful it was to have this budding connection with somebody else who's in my exact position. Lone parent, gets it, it would have been a good match on paper. So I thought.

Anxious and avoidant is definitely not a good mix.

I suppose atleast I can walk away with my dignity in tact somewhat, I didn't make a total fool of myself and did a pretty good job of painting the illusion of 'I know my worth mate, ship up or ship out' at the end.

It could be worse couldn't it?

You're all great. Thank you.

No, YOU’RE great and you deserve better.

Trustissuesoffputting · 16/11/2024 12:25

Error404pagenotfound · 16/11/2024 12:05

Yes he would. Because you’re giving him the validation he craves. He knows that even if he treats you like shit by blocking you, you’ll welcome him back with open arms when he decides to get in touch again.

You’ll reassure him that you’re different and can be trusted, while telling him how wonderful he is. Big ego stroke.

Insecure men NEED it. He’s insecure is he? Ok, so that will be his excuse when he’s texting other women, cheating. He’s so insecure he can’t stand the thought of you going out, but he’ll be the one sneaking around behind your back.

If he was interested, and whole, and healthy, he wouldn’t risk losing you. Men don’t play games with the woman they want. There’s no way they would risk losing someone they really wanted.

We can all see what’s coming here a mile off.

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All very true. Wise words.

He was insecure about me going out yesterday, wanted to know where I was going and who with, what time I'd be out until, whether anybody was trying to speak to me.

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Trustissuesoffputting · 16/11/2024 12:30

And he's back. That lasted all of what, an hour?

I'm giving some serious thought to doing as suggested and blocking him myself as it's all a bit too much I think.

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PurebredRacingUnicorn · 16/11/2024 12:32

Tell him to give you a call when he has sorted out his 'trust issues'.

LastNight1Dreamt1WentToManderleyAgain · 16/11/2024 12:33

Wow this is how he spends a Saturday?!

Error404pagenotfound · 16/11/2024 12:34

Trustissuesoffputting · 16/11/2024 12:30

And he's back. That lasted all of what, an hour?

I'm giving some serious thought to doing as suggested and blocking him myself as it's all a bit too much I think.

The best thing you can do for your future self is tell him this isn’t working and block him.

He will be absolutely lovely today, you’ll have a chat about it, he’ll apologise and give an excuse “I know, i’m sorry I just really like you and it scares me” or some such bullshit, and the cycle will continue.

He’s testing how much shit you will take from him. Please don’t fall into the trap.

Trustissuesoffputting · 16/11/2024 12:36

Error404pagenotfound · 16/11/2024 12:09

I’ve been exactly where you are, even down to it being the first relationship after a divorce.

Please, please listen to me when I tell you this man will destroy you.

Mine was “insecure and had trust issues” too. Used to disappear and block me all the time. My mental health was on the floor, and he cheated repeatedly because he needed the external validation. Please, I beg you do not entertain this man. There are men out there would would fall over themselves to treat you properly x

I needed to hear that because that's exactly where it would be headed I think.

Thank you. I can't put up with that. I have too much good in my life to risk being miserable. It's not worth it.

I hope you found your peace when you got rid ♥️

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Error404pagenotfound · 16/11/2024 12:41

Trustissuesoffputting · 16/11/2024 12:36

I needed to hear that because that's exactly where it would be headed I think.

Thank you. I can't put up with that. I have too much good in my life to risk being miserable. It's not worth it.

I hope you found your peace when you got rid ♥️

Happier than I’ve ever been, because I am at peace.

It is impossible to be happy with a man like that. I stopped seeing my friends because he hated me going out. He cheated over and over again. One day I was the love of his life and he couldn’t cope without me, the next I was blocked. I cringe looking back because he really wasn’t anything special. He’s married now with a baby and still doing the same thing. Still messages me every so often from different numbers (all are ignored). He won’t ever change.

If he was a decent man, he wouldn’t enter a relationship right now anyway. He would go off and get therapy and come back when he was a safe partner, but they very rarely do the work do they?

Hurt people hurt people. Don’t be the one who ends up damaged because of him. Better to get out now than a year down the line.

BeenThere101 · 16/11/2024 12:44

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StopTalkingPlease · 16/11/2024 12:46

He was insecure about me going out yesterday, wanted to know where I was going and who with, what time I'd be out until, whether anybody was trying to speak to me

Why do you assume he was insecure? It’s quite ballsy to pester someone like this when they’re out and even more ballsy to block them. These are the actions of a man who’s overly confident and controlling.

Forget attachment styles. This is abusive controlling behaviour.

Trustissuesoffputting · 16/11/2024 12:48

I've done it, he's blocked. I don't know how I'm going to navigate seeing him next week now as he will almost certainly want to talk. Feeling a bit anxious about that.

I don't want to cause any issues for our children so I'm thinking a polite good morning and carry on walking is the only way of handling it to be honest.

But what do I do when they want to go to the shop together after school or to the park?

It's so messy. Never again will I get involved with somebody from school. What a stupid thing to do 😩

Why couldn't he have been a normal person.

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Trustissuesoffputting · 16/11/2024 12:52

StopTalkingPlease · 16/11/2024 12:46

He was insecure about me going out yesterday, wanted to know where I was going and who with, what time I'd be out until, whether anybody was trying to speak to me

Why do you assume he was insecure? It’s quite ballsy to pester someone like this when they’re out and even more ballsy to block them. These are the actions of a man who’s overly confident and controlling.

Forget attachment styles. This is abusive controlling behaviour.

I know he doesn't think himself as very good looking whereas I (and I'm cringing writing this, so forgive me) am often seen as being conventionally attractive.

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Error404pagenotfound · 16/11/2024 12:53

Trustissuesoffputting · 16/11/2024 12:48

I've done it, he's blocked. I don't know how I'm going to navigate seeing him next week now as he will almost certainly want to talk. Feeling a bit anxious about that.

I don't want to cause any issues for our children so I'm thinking a polite good morning and carry on walking is the only way of handling it to be honest.

But what do I do when they want to go to the shop together after school or to the park?

It's so messy. Never again will I get involved with somebody from school. What a stupid thing to do 😩

Why couldn't he have been a normal person.

I just punched the air! You have done the right thing, I promise.

Delete his number so you’re not tempted to unblock, keep it polite and civil when you see each other. Don’t feel like you have to force a friendship for the kids sake. If he tried to engage in conversation a simple “I won’t accept the way you act, and there is nothing to discuss”. Repeat as necessary. He is setting all the foundations for an abusive relationship.

Lick your wounds, dust yourself down, and find a man who isn’t this difficult to be with. Relationship shouldn’t be hard work, and especially not this early in.

PontiacFirebird · 16/11/2024 13:02

LastNight1Dreamt1WentToManderleyAgain · 16/11/2024 11:55

Henry Tilney is my favourite Jane Austen hero, closely followed by Frederick Wentworth, and I never liked Darcy or Mr Knightley. The Henry Tilneys are worth their weight in gold. A funny, forgiving man who doesn't mind doing the Christmas shopping with you.

I LOVE this ❤️

OnGoldenPond · 16/11/2024 13:09

Don't waste your time trying to solve men's issues. Not your problem. If he isn't enthusiastic about having a committed relationship with you then move on and find someone who is. You deserve better.

pikkumyy77 · 16/11/2024 13:13

Trustissuesoffputting · 16/11/2024 11:37

Case closed by the looks of it as I've just realised he has blocked me this morning. First time that has happened.

I don't think it's a coincidence that this comes after me telling him, yesterday, that if he goes hot and cold one more time then I'll be blocking him indefinitely.

It's self protection I think. These men will never be happy will they?

I know some people read things like this and think "he's just not that into you" but he definitely was.

I'm sure he'll resurface at some point. Ugh.

This is what makes them happy. Because thus oscillation feels familiar and safe.

If he comes back to you try to remember thus feeling of shock and rejection. Because he is not going to change and he will meet every challenge by running away.

thatsawhopperthatlemon · 16/11/2024 13:21

He's a commitment-phobe that's all. It would irritate me no end, so no, I couldn't be doing with pussy-footing round someone like that.

Fortunately, he seems to have done you a favour and bolted.

localnotail · 16/11/2024 13:22

Trustissuesoffputting · 16/11/2024 11:37

Case closed by the looks of it as I've just realised he has blocked me this morning. First time that has happened.

I don't think it's a coincidence that this comes after me telling him, yesterday, that if he goes hot and cold one more time then I'll be blocking him indefinitely.

It's self protection I think. These men will never be happy will they?

I know some people read things like this and think "he's just not that into you" but he definitely was.

I'm sure he'll resurface at some point. Ugh.

If he was "into you" he would not be doing stuff that could ultimately lead to to him losing you. Can you imagine caring about someone and not being bothered if they walk or stay?

tothelefttotheleft · 16/11/2024 13:26

@Trustissuesoffputting

He needs to stay blocked. Don't back down.

Beyond the 'issues' about trust he contacted you multiple times when you were out for the evening. That alerted my spidey senses. He's trouble.

thatsawhopperthatlemon · 16/11/2024 13:27

Trustissuesoffputting · 16/11/2024 12:25

All very true. Wise words.

He was insecure about me going out yesterday, wanted to know where I was going and who with, what time I'd be out until, whether anybody was trying to speak to me.

Massive, massive red flag. He is totally incapable of trusting you to not go off and leap on the first man who stands still long enough. He seems to have a very low opinion of your morals.

TheYearOfSmallThings · 16/11/2024 13:27

NOPE.

It sounds shit and he will not be worth the effort.

localnotail · 16/11/2024 13:31

Trustissuesoffputting · 16/11/2024 12:01

If he wasn't interested he wouldn't keep contacting me would he? When he went quiet I completely left him to it.

It was all very bizarre to be honest.

I think he's a very damaged person.

If he wasn't interested he wouldn't keep contacting me would he?

This is completely wrong. There are thousands reasons for him to get in touch - boredom, validation, sex, whatever.

Vroomfondleswaistcoat · 16/11/2024 13:32

Keep him blocked. He blocked you so you would 'miss him' and wonder what you'd done and how to fix it. Then he came back to see if he'd done enough that you'd be apologising and being all 'soft' and letting him get away with the blocking in the interests of keeping him interested in you.

He needs therapy, not a girlfriend.

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