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How do you know when to end a relationship?

62 replies

Northnotts85 · 30/10/2024 16:55

I've been in a relationship with my DP for almost 2 years now and while things started out brilliantly between us, I'm beginning to feel like we have too many differences to make things work.

There have been some minor issues throughout - we live a 90 minute drive apart and he has a teenage boy with some learning difficulties. This has meant that I spend every weekend at his house and he very rarely (3 times so far in 2024) visits my house. I live in a rural area and my DP (understandably) worries that his boy will get bored here - he has an XBox etc at home and that seems to keep him happy. I'd be lying if I said I didn't find the travelling and being away from my home difficult - I'm relatively new to my area (2.5 years here now) and not being here at weekends has made it difficult to form any real friendships. It also means I have to do all my chores and housework in the week after work (and sometimes end up helping him with his at weekends). But although it's occasionally frustrating for me, my DP was upfront about his situation from the off, so any resentment has mostly been swallowed and we make it work.

However, my DP has a very short fuse and over the last year or so has started to get angry, snappy and impatient with me a lot. This can happen when it's something contentious such as me raising an issue within the relationship. But he can also be triggered by the most trivial things: I didn't give him an instant yes or no opinion on an outfit he was thinking of wearing to the pub last weekend and I got my head bitten off. He says it's 'infuriating' when I don't answer a straight question - I'm quite a considered and sometimes indecisive person and am not always quick to provide an answer or an opinion on things because I like to allow myself time to think and respond. His impatience makes me feel quite bad about myself.

I strongly believe that two people can experience the same thing differently and feel opposite emotions in response to the same situation. But I feel that my DP often dismisses my feelings out of hand, is very quick to raise his voice, and tends to invalidate my point of view often. He's told me on more than one occasion that I'm 'being oversensitive'.

To be clear, I'm not afraid of my DP hurting me and there's never been any indication of physical anger. But I've increasingly found that I only have the confidence to challenge things within the relationship after a couple of glasses of wine - which is not a healthy way of dealing with things and leads to arguments and fall outs. Sometimes, because I've had a drink, I get frustrated at the reaction I get and I end up saying horrible things that I regret (which is also completely unacceptable).

I've had several months of therapy to try and improve my methods of communication. But the more therapy I've had, the more I'm coming to realise that his anger and invalidation is a barrier to me tackling my problems. I've tried to discuss this with him on several occasions but I sometimes feel that while I'm prepared to take accountability for my bad communication skills, he isn't. Whenever we have an argument, it's usually me that ends up apologising even if he's yelled at me.

We had a discussion at the beginning of this week where I laid all my cards on the table and he agreed to work on his temper and impatience issues too.

There are also quite a few other problems/things of concern:

Our sex life is pretty much a non-starter as my DP feels weird about being sexually active while the boy is in the neighbouring bedroom.

My DP recently complained during an argument that I don't contribute enough to group conversations when we're out with his friends. (My counter to this would be that he's told me that I'm 'just not very funny' in front of his friends when I've made a joke in the past and often seems to sneer at my contributions generally (he has a very sarcastic sense of humour and would say that this is just him joking around - but hardly a confidence boost or incentive to join in).

He can be quite thoughtless sometimes. To give an example of this, we recently couldn't go to a concert we'd booked tickets for because his childcare fell through at the last minute. I offered to try and sell the tickets on my social media, but he said he would do it himself. He only managed to sell one ticket and kept all the money for himself even though we'd each paid separately for our own tickets. AIBU to think that an offer of splitting the recouped money (and both of us being a little out of pocket rather than him getting his money back and me losing all of mine) would have been the kindest thing to do?

The difficulty is that there are strong feelings there. I do love him and he says he loves me (for all our faults). And my decision whether or not to call it quits is clouded by my having formed a good relationship with his boy. I'm also turning 40 soon and hate the thought of starting back on the dating scene all over again!

Am I just being naïve to think (hope?) that with a bit of work we might be able to turn this around? What has prompted you to finish a relationship in the past?

OP posts:
SalmonLeBon · 30/10/2024 17:02

Short tempered
Doesn't think you are funny
No sex
Lives 90 minutes away
You skivvy for him
Thoughtless
Dismissive

Those were the things I picked up. Where are the positives? Are there any?

TwistedWonder · 30/10/2024 17:04

So when you make the effort to do a 3 hour round trip every weekend, does he treat you by going for nice meals or to a lovely bar?

Sorry OP but I don’t think this will ever change. Abuse isn’t always physical - raising his voice, putting you down, speaking to you like shit are all abusive behaviour. And you dont even get the benefit of good sex.

What do you really get out of this relationship?

category12 · 30/10/2024 17:04

I thought at paragraph 3 you should end it, tbh.

You've only been together 2 years and he's angry & unpleasant with you.

Basically you've got to know him and the discovery is, he's not nice to be around, he's not nice to you.

He has just gradually revealed himself as an arse. Sometimes that happens. You had the honeymoon period of thinking he was great and falling in love, but actually that was his mask.

EVHead · 30/10/2024 17:10

He’s horrible. You’re not the problem, it’s him.

End it.

SoporificLettuce · 30/10/2024 17:12

What are the good things about being involved with this man?

CheekyHobson · 30/10/2024 17:16

I’m not sure “why did you leave” stories are really all that helpful when deciding on the future of a relationship as every relationship is different.

But as a previous poster pointed out, from your post, it’s very hard to see why you should stay. He’s short-tempered, invalidating and inconsiderate, your sex life is dying if not dead and you seem to do almost all the running around for the relationship.

I suppose your willingness to stay and try to work on the relationship might hinge on whether you want children and whether you are viewing this as your last chance to have them.

If that’s the case I would caution you that from the sounds of your current relationship, you’ll end up a single mum (which isn’t the worst thing in the world).

However if children aren’t a factor and you’re just scared you won’t meet anyone better, I’d swallow my fear and end it now. There are far nicer men out there than this. It might take you a while to find one, but I certainly wouldn’t settle for this guy.

Userengage · 30/10/2024 17:22

I think you’ve just become accustomed to him and seeing him every weekend. He sounds rubbish, I’d dump him and make 40 a turning point in my life.

sonjadog · 30/10/2024 17:23

He thinks he is better than you, doesn't he? All his little comments and criticisms point that way. He will gradually erode your confidence and self-worth if you stay with him long enough. Over the two years of dating, you have gotten to know him and found out he is not a great guy. This is what dating is for. I would end this one and move on. This guy is not right for you.

Eddielizzard · 30/10/2024 17:27

I struggle to see the benefit of staying in the relationship other than you're in a relationship as opposed to not being in one. He isn't very nice to you. Putting you down, eroding your confidence, stinginess, lack of sex and affection, inflexibility, anger issues, dismissive, impatient. Sounds really horrible tbh! Surely being alone would be better?

user1471538283 · 30/10/2024 17:39

There's no point in this. Hardly any sex, cleaning his house and he's overly critical of you.

This will only get worse. I'd end it now.

AgnesX · 30/10/2024 17:42

Why are you staying, the plus points seem to be non existent. I'm surprised you've lasted as long as you have.

Namechangetheyarewatching · 30/10/2024 17:42

However, my DP has a very short fuse and over the last year or so has started to get angry, snappy and impatient with me a lot**

I would finish it for this alone

DemonicCaveMaggot · 30/10/2024 17:52

He is impatient, snappy, and is clearly finding you frustrating. He puts you down in front of his friends. He is inconsiderate and stingy. He is thoughtless and lazy - willing to let you clean his house for him on your weekends whereas you clean your own during the week. You walk on eggshells around him and are only able to have a conversation on a hard subject after getting tipsy.

These aren't 'minor issues'. He's waving more red flags at you than you see at a May Day parade.

How many years do you want to spend with a person who makes you feel stupid, inadequate, and boring?

Appalonia · 30/10/2024 18:00

He just sounds really selfish tbh. And quite contemptuous. It sounds like your self esteem is already being affected by this man. I worry you'll end up being a shell of yourself if you stay. I'd start by having more weekends at home and trying to get more involved with the local community. Build up your own life more. Do you feel you won't have much in your life without him?

category12 · 30/10/2024 18:02

Am I just being naïve to think (hope?) that with a bit of work we might be able to turn this around?

Where is the we? You're working really hard on the relationship, but he isn't.

Emmascout1774 · 30/10/2024 18:02

the ticket story is the one that really put me off. What a cheek! I’d move on I’m afraid.

unsync · 30/10/2024 18:07

I didn't read past the anger. That's enough in my book. He can't regulate his emotions properly. Time to move on.

ATastingMenuButItsAllCrisps · 30/10/2024 18:10

This isn't a relationship, he's just some platonic bloke you visit, perform chores for and treats you like dirt. The entire point of him is to enhance your life hugely, make it fun and easier. He's a failure.

Emmylou22 · 30/10/2024 18:18

It seems you're making all the effort here to make it work. And what's he doing to improve your happiness and keep the relationship alive? Not much.

I agree with PP - start staying at home at weekends and build a life for yourself in your area. Try not to worry about being 40 and single. I'm about to turn 40 and this is the longest I've been single in 18 years! I am slowly getting used to it and definitely not ready to dip my toe in the dating world yet. Give yourself time to make yourself happy. End it with this bloke at some point. It won't get any better with him. Better to build a great life alone with the potential of meeting someone amazing down the line than stick with this unhappy situation. Easy for us all to say, I know, but when you start focusing on what makes you happy, you'll feel a lot stronger and able to end it❤

Pinkchicken75 · 30/10/2024 18:35

BIN ,Know Your Worth👋

Appalonia · 30/10/2024 18:44

Btw, my fourties was my best decade! You're not old.

DracunculusVulgaris · 30/10/2024 18:46

My goodness OP! I could have written your post almost word for word, the only difference being that I am male and older than you. Nearly 3 years together, I live rurally, my partner has also only made the effort to visit me twice this year, to give her grandson a holiday in the country, I travel, every Friday, after work, to her city, 75 minutes drive away, and leave early hours of Monday morning and drive straight to my place of work. I, too, walk on eggshells around her, because of her constant irritability, anger, loud, sweary rants, being used as an 'emotional punchbag', farmed out every weekend to help her family and friends with gardening projects (that is my profession ), fearful of how much alcohol she has consumed as it makes her behaviour even worse (and I am teatotal, having been brought up in a household with an alcoholic mum). The constant belittling, humiliating, degrading comments have worn me down and I am a naturally quiet, reserved, introverted personality and rarely speak up! My vocabulary and the way I speak are criticised, my manner of dress is commented on, my eating is 'policed', I am told that I am too quiet around her friends and I am, apparently, secretive - I just don't have much to talk about much of the time as our interests and attitudes to social activities are polar opposite. I have also learned not to feed too much information or fears and insecurities to one who will melt them into bullets to use against me.

Like you, this past weekend, we had a discussion about our future - for the first time ever, on Saturday night, she physically hurt me and then, on Sunday, claimed that it didn't happen, and that if it did it was just in 'fun' and 'playful'. I actually found my voice and found the courage to give her a very stern, measured, calm talking to and put her on notice that if it ever happens again I will be gone for good. I don't think it will actually work, however, and am preparing to stick to my guns and end the relationship. Like you, I have to cram everything into four short evenings a week at home, as I am away in her city for the remainder of the week. In a way I would almost relish being on my own again, having time for my own garden, my bees, chickens and other hobbies!

The similarities are astonishing OP, I feel for you, and although unable to offer you any advice, I can offer solidarity, my best wishes and hope that you are able to make the correct decision for YOU, as I have to do to protect my mental and now physical wellbeing. Good luck OP!

DracunculusVulgaris · 30/10/2024 18:47

Sorry, that was long - and possibly not very helpful to you, but wishing you strength and good wishes

StormingNorman · 30/10/2024 18:50

“I didn't give him an instant yes or no opinion on an outfit he was thinking of wearing to the pub last weekend and I got my head bitten off. He says it's 'infuriating' when I don't answer a straight question - I'm quite a considered and sometimes indecisive person and am not always quick to provide an answer or an opinion on things because I like to allow myself time to think and respond”

Having different communication styles isn’t that trivial. It’s a death by a thousand papercuts kind of problem. He’ll get more infuriated over time and you’ll feel even worse about yourself.

PattiSmithsPattis · 30/10/2024 18:55

@Northnotts85 & @DracunculusVulgaris same advice to both of you. Leave.
Allow yourself to be happy.
Being alone is ok, far better than a shit relationship 🌸