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Can a husband be in love with his wife and have long term affair?

145 replies

Summerdaysandnights · 13/10/2024 16:44

I'm not taking him back but he keeps saying he always loved me and always will... If so why did he have an affair ? We had regular good sex ( before of course I found out he had a mistress) It's over now between them .I always thought if you loved your spouse/ partner you wouldn't even dream of cheating, am I wrong ?
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OP posts:
Firstlemonaid · 13/10/2024 18:49

Theextraordinaryisintheordinary · 13/10/2024 16:58

Yes. They can also find the wife so much more attractive than the mistress but the ego loves attention and the flesh is weak.

Found the wife ^

Name changed - but yes OP, they can love both. But also in different ways.

I've been on both sides, in mine and DPs situation, he left his wife after a very long term affair (second life territory over several years), the moment I recognised I wanted more from it.

It was always on my terms and me saying I didn't want anything other than the casual convenience side of things. As soon as I did, he had his own house within weeks, let her keep about 70% of the other and filed for divorce. No kids, thankfully.

For what it's worth, the ex is more attractive physically than me, by conventional standards and even still is from what I've seen. But he loved (& still loves) me more than he loved being 'comfortable'.

Tarantella6 · 13/10/2024 18:49

Yes of course, they compartmentalise.

And it isn't that he was 'prepared to risk xyz' - my guess would be his thought process got no further than no-one finding out. As long as no-one finds out, there is no risk. (Obviously there is a risk because the affair partner could tell everyone ...)

HazelPlayer · 13/10/2024 18:49

My now ex H had an affair and said he never stopped loving me or being in love with me.

But that's not love.

That's a selfish, one sided, egotistical facsimile of "love".

If you love someone, you truly care about them, and you don't want to deceive or mistreat or potentially hurt them. You don't feel entitled to take their agency away from them. You don't treat them worse than you'd like to be treated.

SandrenaIsMyBloodType · 13/10/2024 18:50

Elasticatedtrousers · 13/10/2024 16:53

Yes. But it’s their view of what love looks like that’s the problem.

I personally believe many affairs are addictive in nature and often used as a self soothing tool. They have very little to do with the person being betrayed and a lot more to do with the flaw in character of the cheat.

The betrayed is collateral damage.

I know people will disagree and shout about lack of respect but I’ve known cheats who genuinely believed they loved their partners.

Whether their love is worth anything is another matter.

I also agree with this. I think it’s possible to love two people at once. I think it’s possible to cheat on someone you genuinely love but I do not think you can cheat on someone you genuinely, wholeheartedly respect.
And if I was cheated on, it wouldn’t be feeling unloved that would make me end my relationship, it would be feeling disrespected and feeling that our family and the life we built together had been disrespected. I think that might well be impossible for me to forgive.

housemaus · 13/10/2024 18:52

Yeah, I think so. I broadly think you can love two people at once, tbh. But I don't think that means you can betray someone you promised to love monogamously. The act of the betrayal isn't loving, even if he loved you anyway.

sprigatito · 13/10/2024 18:55

It's the wrong question for me. If my DH had shown such dishonesty, disrespect and sheer lack of character as to cheat on me, his feelings one way or the other would no longer be relevant. He'd be out.

Osirus · 13/10/2024 19:00

BoobyDazzler · 13/10/2024 18:00

It’s quite possible to love two people at the same time.

Yes but “love” and “in love” are two different things and no way can you be “in love” with two people simultaneously. The feelings are too intense.

IcedPurple · 13/10/2024 19:05

Heyyosu · 13/10/2024 18:16

Alot of men do though. I think they can be pretty weak when it comes to sex elsewhere.

Are they 'weak' because they expect to get away with it?

Anyway, their partners aren't obliged to indulge their 'weakness'.

IcedPurple · 13/10/2024 19:07

BoobyDazzler · 13/10/2024 18:00

It’s quite possible to love two people at the same time.

But if you love someone, why would you do something which you know will hurt them deeply if they find out, which they probably will?

BirthdayRainbow · 13/10/2024 19:13

HazelPlayer · 13/10/2024 18:49

My now ex H had an affair and said he never stopped loving me or being in love with me.

But that's not love.

That's a selfish, one sided, egotistical facsimile of "love".

If you love someone, you truly care about them, and you don't want to deceive or mistreat or potentially hurt them. You don't feel entitled to take their agency away from them. You don't treat them worse than you'd like to be treated.

Edited

Why would you say that? I'm sure you think you're helping but no

HomeSomeday · 13/10/2024 19:55

His definition of love would be very different to mine if he claimed to love me but cheated.

BirthdayRainbow · 13/10/2024 19:57

Please stop this train of posting. I made my choices. I know my life. Not that it is relevant but I have divorced him anyway. But really, respect that other people have other feelings.

AdmittowearingCrocs · 13/10/2024 20:01

I think it is a contradiction in terms. If he truly loved you, he wouldn’t have had the affair in the first place!!!

BirthdayRainbow · 13/10/2024 20:03

Ok enough now. Plenty of other people have shared their opinion. I'm glad you're leaving them alone but stop it now.

Lovecheat · 13/10/2024 20:07

Name changed and new user name was readily available 😅
Yes I believe you can love your wife/ husband and have an affair. I had an affair over several years and so did my DH (not in an open relationship). We do love each other deeply and have a great marriage, great sex etc I don’t regret my affair. I am so happy to have had that experience. I would never tell anyone in real life as don’t expect anyone to understand, but you asked OP and yes you definitely can. I love and respect my Dh.

researchers3 · 13/10/2024 20:10

No.

user9578 · 13/10/2024 20:11

I had a longterm affair. I said I still loved my husband but in reality, I didn't.

Mahidevran · 13/10/2024 20:24

No, love is all consuming. If he loved you he wouldn’t have been able to conduct a romance with someone else. Best question to ask is what does he stand to lose/gain by being with you? House, family, reputation etc? And how was it discovered, was he in a situation where he was forced to be without his affair partner? People who are happy and in love don’t go looking for it elsewhere. His definition of “love” is very shallow it seems. He has regrets but if he could keep her and keep you in the dark that would likely be his preference

Chickadoo · 13/10/2024 20:33

I think the fact 'love' is just a series of chemical reactions within the brain, then yes you can have this happen over 2 different people. C'mon let's be serious

LifeExperience · 13/10/2024 20:35

True love, no, because real love requires mutual respect.

He can still have fondness but that is not love.

XChrome · 13/10/2024 20:39

Summerdaysandnights · 13/10/2024 17:07

Oh I won't ever take him back because he threw away a 30 yr marriage for her .He knew my view on affairs ..It had caused me the most horrendous pain ever and now he tells me he always loved me and wants only me .

He's hoovering. Either things are not going as well with her as he had hoped they would or they are fine, but he just wants to cheat on her with you. So he wants you to be his backup plan/convenient side chick. Disabuse him of these beliefs by not responding to any of his bullshit at all. Completely ignore him.

XChrome · 13/10/2024 20:43

SandrenaIsMyBloodType · 13/10/2024 18:50

I also agree with this. I think it’s possible to love two people at once. I think it’s possible to cheat on someone you genuinely love but I do not think you can cheat on someone you genuinely, wholeheartedly respect.
And if I was cheated on, it wouldn’t be feeling unloved that would make me end my relationship, it would be feeling disrespected and feeling that our family and the life we built together had been disrespected. I think that might well be impossible for me to forgive.

How is it love without respect?

feellikeanalien · 13/10/2024 20:45

I think people tell themselves they do because they don't want to admit that they've lied and cheated. Subconsciously they think that by saying they still love the person they've cheated on that doesn't make it quite so bad.

They tend not to think of the anguish caused to the person who has been cheated on and certainly don't like to admit to themselves that they've caused this .

HazelPlayer · 13/10/2024 20:48

I love you but I lie to you, make you play by rules I'm no longer playing by, risk your physical health, risk your mental health, risk our relationship, take away your agency in your life etc. etc.

Sure sounds like twuu wuuv to me

XChrome · 13/10/2024 20:49

@TornLimb
Excellent points and I agree wholeheartedly.

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