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Is the male neighbour harassing me,or is it something else?

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Aboutmaleneighbour · 10/10/2024 16:32

Please for any men here to also comment. Please bear with me, it is a very long story, 1 year span of events.

A new male eighbour moved in our neighbourhood a year ago. He introduced himself to my husband, was friendly initially, asked my husband if he can help if anything happens to his house as he regularly goes away ( we live in a row of 3 cottages ) and gave his phone number. His almost always coming and going with different cars, although there is also one " regular" car we see him drive.
Digression: in between us is a younger female neighbour, who has a stalker(s), and we have no communication with her now, as she decided to erect an extension fence on our side, and she stopped saying even hello to my husband.Before that, we were hardly on just " hello" terms, as we found old rock solid dog poo chucked on our lawn overnight (over already high fence between us, at that stage), and her harasser decided to send a sordid message to her via a local community newsletter 2 years ago, that was put through our letterbox, instead of hers ( her name was clearly on the newsletter). Meanwhile, her dog died, because it was permanently shut indoors for 2 years, as she almost never took the dog for a walk, and it was a rescue dog. Her ex left her around that time 2 years ago and moved out, and she found a new boyfriend very quickly after,although continuing to live alone.

So when male new neighbour came,he initially communicated only with my husband. BUT, he decided to never say even " hello" to me and never introduce himself to me ( knowing full well I am the wife- my husband is much older than me, male neighbour is my age). So, I thought that is strange, especially as he asked my husband for favours. So to give him opportunity I went one day to empty rubbish, and in the car park there were 2 or 3 men fixing a car ( at this stage I did not know which one is the neighbour and which were the visitor friends helping him with the car). I looked briefly at all of them, but they all gave me just blank deadly serious looks, and no one said even hello. Just to say I am white, of foreign origin, with an accent. And I am certain that the new male neighbour knew this, as he must have heard me talking to my husband in the garden, where we spend a lot of time in summer. We all live in close proximity. At this stage I was livid, and thought this "non friendly attitude" is because of my ethnicity. We live in remote English countryside on a large estate, with a titled landlord ( hereditary peerage). Then I found out that male neighbour comes probably from a similar background, as he likes shooting wild animals for sport, and asked permission from our landlord to shoot on his land. (Also, I met his mother while I was on a country walk, by accident, a lady who had a very posh accent, and said she was his mother and visiting). The male neighbour bought the smaller property, at the end, while we and female neighbour are renters of larger parts. In the meantime, male neighbour asks my husband again a favour, can he take some garden slabs we have extra, and my husband and I decided to say yes, without asking for any compensation , even though he was unfriendly towards me. But,slabs remain uncollected from car park ever since. Just to say, I was not in any way physically attracted to this man. For some time, I was angry that I am discriminated, and gave no eye contact, or body language to him as a cue to communicate with me, in any way whatsoever. I just completely shut him off, because of this arrogant attitude. This guy said to my husband he works for mod and secret service ( this is true story, I am not inventing anything), and he knows my husband worked there in the past, and my husband is former SAS.
For more than 8 months, I never saw him speaking to our female neighbour at all at this stage. Then, over the period of time, I felt sorry for him, he seemed to live a very lonely life, and I did not want to be anti social completely, so 2 times only while in car park, I initiated a luke warm hello, just to ease off the awkwardness, acknowledge his presence, and it was always at the distance. But it was always on my initiative, which was annoying, but I thought at least I can do that, for the sake of neighbourly relations. Then suddenly, one day, I was gardening together with my husband ( I am housewife,my husband is retired), outside our property, he came up jogging with his dog. And I gave a friendly hello, but in return, I received ' a look' and and a bit "too friendly" hello, if you know what I mean, while he completely ignored my husband, not saying hello to him at all, or looking at him. This took both me and my husband by surprise. And we both talked later about this between us. Since then, I completely AGAIN shut this guy off, giving him no eye contact or body language that I want any kind of interaction with him whatsoever. In fact, I was doing my utmost not to find myself in his presence at all, and was turning my head away even if he passed us by his car, while we were in our car. He will still message my husband, appeared to ask for things, but my husband would give him only strained hellos from here onwards.

Then shooting happened. I had a lovely summer day with my husband, one day, in sunshine, we were chatting in the front garden, and then suddenly I saw the male neighbour with silencers and a shot gun, slowly walking away from our car park. A couple of minutes later, we both felt as if someone shot at us and missed us. It was so close,and loud, it scared the life out of me, I quite literally ran into the house immediately. My husband was a sniper in SAS, and he knows more about weapons than me, and he agreed this was very close. He then went and had, in the next 3 days, 3 separate talks with the male neighbour about this shooting. The neighbour first denied he fired the shots, but was apologetic, said he wants good neighbour relations, how he is always at the distance, has landlord permit to shoot on his land, blah blah. My husband did not tell him we actually him with the shot gun a few min before shots were fired. This is first time I thought him very weird, and something is odd with him.

So, at this stage, after more than 8 months into his moving in, he suddenly decides to befriend the female neighbour, and they hit it off, like they know each other for years. He carries her groceries, goes to her house when she is alone, organise extended family get togethers with her, while her new boyfriend is there as well. He also continues to ignore me, whether I am alone in car park area, or with my husband, saying hello to my husband, but nothing to me, and he appears to have a sour face whenever I am there present, alone or with my husband. While at the same time, he has this very friendly loud verbal interaction with our female neighbour ( so he has no problem communicating perfectly friendly with other " engaged" women, just I am not one of them).
Then, suddenly the female neighbour dog dies, and this is when I learn my female neighbour has a stalker, and the stalker has "proxies". Until this moment, 2 years ago, I thought the message we saw on community newsletter was just some local grudge, a one off. So, I never even told her about it. But, now dog dies, and after that a large 3 piece banner appears on her front gate, in car park,for all of us to read, and hangs there for more than 24h! She did not remove it, until my husband had to prompt her boyfriend to ask her to remove it, as it was distressing. And it says " Happy Fucking Birthday". I was so shocked to read this, at the same time I learned her dog died. I felt very sorry for her ( again, my mistake), I wrote condolences letter, offered help, and gave her a large bouquet of flowers from our garden, and left at her doorstep, as she must have been asleep. She has security cctv camera on her front door.
Subsequently, in coming 2 weeks, to my complete shock and surprise, she never responded to this, and erected the fence extension upwards on our side only, and stopped talking to us completely. Meanwhile, she buddies with the male neighbour. Before she does all this, old dog poo appears overnight on our pristine lawn, and at the time I thought it must be her stalker leaving that poo. I didn't think it may be her, or her visitors, at the time. Because, we didn't do anything to anyone. Why would someone turn on us?

At the time I was intent to check what cars are coming and going, in car park, and I wanted to catch this bugger who is doing this, in action. Also,in remote countryside, burglaries and thefts are frequent, and we have valuable tools in 2 sheds.So you have to be vigilant, and my husband is the same as me.
And one day, in the morning, in car park, preparing certain things on our car, I heard muffled sounds. I went to look are there familiar cars parked, and as I was doing this, the male neighbour opens the upstairs window of his house, while talking loudly on his phone,and began staring at me, in a way like " what are you looking at?" . I felt immediately intimidated, but I am not a fearful woman, and I do not accept anyone to intimidate me in this way, so I stared back, being very serious, to send a message " you cannot intimidate me". Then I left.

After this, there was a "road incident" with the male neighbour, who never said hello to me( unless I initiated), and who arrogantly ignored me since he moved in, while asking favours from my husband. And who gave me looks. I went on my daily country walk one day. His car was not on the car park. After 1 hour walk, I was alone on this isolated country lane, where a very few cars pass by, and a few tractors. I never had a problem with anyone on this road. It is a single track, so as a walker you need to move on the verge, to let vehicles pass. Sometimes I wave, sometimes I don't. I heard a car coming from behind me, so, I moved in good time sideways, to let it pass, without waving or acknowledging the driver, as it was coming from behind. But, the car suddenly slowed down ,and stopped completely in front of me. So I looked and realised it is the male neighbour. So now I couldn't walk forward, as he is on the road in front of me. He didn't say hello, he didn't wave. Just stared in his right wing mirror, like being serious. And I decided to completely ignore him, but, he is still static for more than 5 seconds. Then he drives away slowly, like walking pace, and I had to wait a long while until he drives off.

15 min later, on my way back, his car appears again. I am now shocked to see him again. He drives very slowly again towards me, this time facing me, and I moved sideways to let him pass, without actually having eye contact to him, and he has his window down, but says no hello, no wave, nothing. Just this creepy silence. So, I wait a long time for him to pass me, and then he stops. Now, it is a longer stop, and he blocks me with his car, so I cannot get of the verge onto the road. And he stares at me at his right wing mirror. I didn't feel intimidated, or harassed at first. I thought he maybe fancy me, and wants my attention in this creepy way. But, 2 days later, talking with my husband in detail about everything, I had 3 day paranoid episode that this guy stalked me with hostile intentions, and that female neighbour somehow contributed towards those hostile intentions towards me. I had to stop my husband going round to his place to tell him off. We even considered going to the police. Anyway, we did nothing in the end. We at one point wanted to move away from here. My husband walked with me for a few days. We changed the road I walk on. My husband drove me to walking destinations. We avoided that road for good 10 days. So all calmed down for a while.But, I am worried he may do it again, and I have always my phone with me. And I prepared a strategic plan with my husband what to do if it happens again.

Please share your thoughts with me. Anyone,especially men.What is going on?
It will be greatly appreciated. And it will help me cope with this.

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HappyAutumn01 · 10/10/2024 16:49

It all sounds extremely weird, the whole story, the man, the woman, the stalker, the setting, everybody’s odd behaviour. What is your husband’s take on it?

To answer your question, I have no idea sorry.

Aboutmaleneighbour · 10/10/2024 17:02

HappyAutumn01 · 10/10/2024 16:49

It all sounds extremely weird, the whole story, the man, the woman, the stalker, the setting, everybody’s odd behaviour. What is your husband’s take on it?

To answer your question, I have no idea sorry.

My husband thinks both neighbours do not like us, and that female neighbour egged him to be hostile towards me or us, or complained to him about me,or encouraged him to be bold towards me in romantic terms, so to make my husband jealous so I leave my husband, because she doesn't like my husband. She has this manipulative way of dropping hints actually, she did that directly to me, a few years ago, about my husband, like rolling eyes. My husband also thinks, that through intimidation they want us to move out from here.

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Aboutmaleneighbour · 10/10/2024 17:22

HappyAutumn01 · 10/10/2024 16:49

It all sounds extremely weird, the whole story, the man, the woman, the stalker, the setting, everybody’s odd behaviour. What is your husband’s take on it?

To answer your question, I have no idea sorry.

I also have another theory. That her dog dying and Happy Fucking Birthday banner are connected, as both happened at the same time and that her harasser killed her dog, and the banner message is referring to the killing. It is very chilling to think about it in that way. This both neighbours have really dark energy about them. Both, me and my husband ignoring both of them now.

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laughingnow · 10/10/2024 17:33

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Stichintime · 10/10/2024 17:39

I stopped reading when the shotgun appeared, sorry. Is this a first draft?

Aboutmaleneighbour · 10/10/2024 17:49

Stichintime · 10/10/2024 17:39

I stopped reading when the shotgun appeared, sorry. Is this a first draft?

I hope when you or your loved ones one day have this experience I had, then it may not be boring to you. No one forcing you to read anything. Or forcing you to waste time commenting.

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Stichintime · 10/10/2024 17:56

The trouble with posting on a public forum is you might not like the responses you get.

scullybags · 10/10/2024 18:00

Short summary?

Aboutmaleneighbour · 10/10/2024 18:03

scullybags · 10/10/2024 18:00

Short summary?

Read last 2 paragraphs.

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Itsbaloney · 10/10/2024 18:05

That’s so long I can’t get into reading about your problem! Please condense it! It’s a chapter.

StinkyWizzleteets · 10/10/2024 18:12

has jessica fletcher appeared
on her bike yet? If not no need to worry

OnaBegonia · 10/10/2024 18:14

I think you and your retired sniper have far too much time on your hands and are obsessed with your neighbours and also seem
to be paranoid, you've assumed and imagined an awful lot about these 2 people.
Move house and give everyone peace.

ObieJoyful · 10/10/2024 18:20

Stichintime · 10/10/2024 17:39

I stopped reading when the shotgun appeared, sorry. Is this a first draft?

It was the sniper DH that lost me…

TillyKister · 10/10/2024 18:21

It sounds like a script for "Midsomer Murders" 😮

CanadianJohn · 10/10/2024 18:24

ObieJoyful · 10/10/2024 18:20

It was the sniper DH that lost me…

Me too, I thought the preferred term was "marksman". I'm inclined to agree with @OnaBegonia who wondered if you have too much time on your hands.

Theonewhogotaway · 10/10/2024 18:26

I can’t blame him not saying hello. The one time he did you thought he fancied you.

are you bored. Stop obsessing over your neighbours. It’s all weird. Get a job or volunteer.

Theonewhogotaway · 10/10/2024 18:28

Aboutmaleneighbour · 10/10/2024 17:02

My husband thinks both neighbours do not like us, and that female neighbour egged him to be hostile towards me or us, or complained to him about me,or encouraged him to be bold towards me in romantic terms, so to make my husband jealous so I leave my husband, because she doesn't like my husband. She has this manipulative way of dropping hints actually, she did that directly to me, a few years ago, about my husband, like rolling eyes. My husband also thinks, that through intimidation they want us to move out from here.

Confused
Sidebeforeself · 10/10/2024 18:29

I think he’s staring at you cos you’re staring at him…

Ihopeithinkiknow · 10/10/2024 18:34

If he had silencers then how was the gunshot loud lol anyway there is an awful lot going on in your story and it seems like you do a lot of staring at people as if to say things without actually saying anything and they stare back as if to say what you think they are thinking. It sounds like you and mr retired sniper have got a lot of spare time on your hands to be wondering if the neighbour fancies you (doesn't sound like he does btw lol) I have no idea what the neighbour with the dead dog and the stalker has to do with anything lol it's all very league of gentlemen.

AgnesX · 10/10/2024 18:36

I was with you until I read that your husband was an ex SAS sniper.

Have you sent it to any publishers yet?

Pat888 · 10/10/2024 18:44

How do you know so much about these people - where is it you live where everyone is around all day doing unfriendly things?
I would say get a job out of the village and avoid them the rest of the time. Get a camera door bell. Spend time out of the village when walkng or socialising.
The police are v strict about guns - must have licence etc If he is wandering around letting off guns pass the info to them.

InSpainTheRain · 10/10/2024 18:46

I don't mean this unkindly, but I think you both have too much time on your hands. Surely with a neighbour you just give a quick "hi" if you see them and carry on. I have never logged my neighbours comings and goings (different cards, who visits etc) and certainly wouldn't remember the detail you go into.

Alternatively, if you really think he's seriously weird and are scared to go out in case you meet him, have you thought of moving? You say you are renting, so maybe that wouldn't be so difficult as selling?

HiThereSquare · 10/10/2024 18:51

I think you over think things.

But I didn't read all the post tbh.

larklane17 · 10/10/2024 18:55

SAS my arse.

LifesTooShortForYourNonsense · 10/10/2024 18:58

Did Chat GPT write this? 🤣

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