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Older b/f keeps telling me he feels guilty for taking me away from my DC

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FFSasusual · 21/09/2024 00:36

I’m in the earlyish stages of dating an older widowed man (61 years old but still very active, fit.) I’m 45 and divorced. I had a terrible abusive relationship and my DC father is now in jail for gang related murder. I have worked my way from nothing to affording private school for DC and a house and I am very proud of how independent I have become and what I have achieved.

I’ve known this man about a decade as a friend / acquaintance as we work in the same industry. His kids are grown up and left, and mine are still small-ish (under 10.) I really like him, we have a lot of fun, he’s consistent and kind and loving and the sex is good.

one thing that I just can’t understand is that he keeps saying he suffers from guilt when we are together because he feels he is taking me away from my young DC.

there have been a few versions of this over the time we have spent together. One where he cried because of memories he had of being a child and his mother struggling and leaving an abusive relationship with his father and then working and being the sole breadwinner (a story similar to mine) and his experience of wanting more of his mum but she was so stretched with work / DC and a boyfriend. Sometimes when we are having fun I feel that he “turns” in his head (he does not say anything but it’s like an shadow comes over his face / he looks haunted) and he internally admonishes me for being with him instead of my children. He likens me to his mother a lot and our stories - she is 98 and I have met her and like her!

to be clear, I don’t sacrifice time with my DC to be with him. I see him when they are in bed or when they are with their cousins (my sister and dparents are very active in helping with DC, I am very lucky in that sense,) I feel like he is processing something of his own and projecting it on to me. He insists that he is not and that from his vantage point (being a wise old owl at 61 and now grown up with DC who have flown the nest, his wisdom is that I need to spend every single moment with my DC now or I will regret it.)

is this a common thing those with small DC and dating a certain generation of man have experienced? I am struggling to understand it from his point of view and get annoyed sometimes and feel patronised that he is even deciding what I should feel guilty about. He is certainly enjoying the sex enough in our relationship to not let it go. Am I missing something here?

he loves his own DC deeply and wants to spend all the time he can with them. He has been deeply affected by his parents relationship and his own experience of his DC losing their mum. I am empathetic and admiring of all of that and appreciate his feelings but there is part of me that feels I have not come this far and built this much to be told how to feel about the balance of my life or guilt tripped. Or am I being a dick and he has a point?

he has asked to meet my DC as a friend and I allowed him in the context of being my friend and while my parents and Dsis were there too. He spent all his time with them, getting to know them, really demonstrating to me that he cared about them.

am I wrong to feel patronised? Has this happened to anyone else? Is this “guilt” a patriarchal / misogynist thing?

OP posts:
TwistedWonder · 21/09/2024 19:05

How did you read that text without bringing up a bit of sick into your mouth?? Honestly rereading your posts he just gets creepier.

Please don’t waste another minute of your life on the hideous creature. His words make my skin crawl 🤢

pikkumyy77 · 21/09/2024 19:06

I think he fell for you to “rescue” you from his mother’s fate but actually over-identifies with your children and now wants to “rescue” them snd be the father figure and prevent you from neglecting them by having too much pride and autonomy.

Look up the drama triangle snd notice how he rockets around it at one point being the victim and the next the rescuer.

Ifoughthefight · 21/09/2024 19:07

I am few years older than you and cannot fathom how you honestly, like the body of an old man.

JumperStripes · 21/09/2024 19:11

I think he is trying to end things but not going about it the right way. If he isn’t trying to, then I can’t think of a scenario where he comes across well enough for you to continue wanting to date.

ThatSongStuckInYourHead · 21/09/2024 19:12

At 'best', he's a misogynist. At worst, he could want access to your children because he's a paedophile.

RedToothBrush · 21/09/2024 19:12

There are so many things in the op which are creepy, weird and just generally don't sit right.

TwinklyNight · 21/09/2024 19:12

Seems odd in an uncomfortable way.

thistimelastweek · 21/09/2024 19:24

So this bloke with obvious issues wants to project them on to you and how you parent.
You are doing fine and he has no right to an opinion much less interfere. He's giving me the creeps long-distance.
And as absolute aside, he's not going to get more attractive with age. Don't get lumbered with an old dude. It's one thing to grow old together. Watching him get old whilst you are in your prime is a different kettle of fish.

MrsTerryPratchett · 21/09/2024 19:29

I feel like he is processing something of his own and projecting it on to me.

He is. Whether that's childhood trauma that he hasn't processed (at 61, he won't) or some problematic feelings towards children, I wouldn't differentiate.

He's older, emotionally unbalanced, may or may not have a worrying attraction to children, and you're having to manage him.

Throw him back. Please.

SnugCoralFinch · 21/09/2024 19:30

This is weird and unsettling

Fraaahnces · 22/09/2024 04:26

After reading your last comment with his statement about your kids needing more, I would write back “Yes, you’re totally right. So do I.”

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