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Toxic ageing parents & sibling favouritism

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wonderingwonderingwondering · 10/09/2024 13:52

Hi all.

Please bear with me. I'm struggling a lot at the moment and feel I'd benefit massively from an outsider view of things. This is also quite a complex situation. Sorry it's so long.

38f, middle child of three daughters. I grew up in a "well to do" home with a mother obsessed with academic achievement and outward success; a father who was emotionally absent and the less dominant parent. Older sibling fell down a well of deep mental illness in my teens and that caused major trauma to the family, to this day she has never recovered and has spent 20+ years in/out psychiatric facilities, she's now in part-time residential care. Mother minds her for half of the week.

I left home at 18. Parents took the view I was the "quiet", "capable", "independent" one and I basically was more or less forgotten about then; I can count on one hand the amount of times I was visited by parents in these 20 years. I got my degree, worked hard in different jobs in a very competitive industry, moved abroad several times, changed industry, worked up a corporate ladder. It all looked "great", but in recent years therapy has taught me that this was a time of extreme loneliness, depression, anxiety, undiagnosed ADHD, eating disorders, toxic romantic relationships...there was a lot of pain. I'd see my family once or twice a year.

My younger sister became my mother's focus in my absence. She lived at home til mid 20s, was funded through 2 college degrees, including one expensive medical degree that parents remortgaged the house to fund. My mother has lived vicariously through her for decades now. Every time I go to visit, or receive a phone call from my mother, it's a one-way monologue about sibling's escapades, her latest partner, the latest house she's bought, etc. She knows minute detail about her life day-to-day. Sibling bought a home recently. I visited that home at the weekend and she talked about how our father was doing a garden makeover and all of the light fixtures, mother came every week to clean the house, cook her meals, do her laundry. My parents have visited my new home in a different city just once. Never helped in any way like that.

I got married recently. When I got engaged I knew, thanks to therapy, that any expectations of my mother would just hurt me. I asked nothing of her, shared little info, went dress shopping alone, planned without her involvement and let her come along and have her "Mother of the Bride" moments on the day. She offered no compliments, no words of support, she criticised my speech and I heard from guests afterwards that she complained that we weren't having a religious ceremony. Neither of us are religious, but she is devout.

The final straw came for me at the weekend. After my wedding, I had a surgery for endometriosis and the recovery has been more difficult than anticipated. I've developed further health issues that have wiped me out recently. I also recently quit my corporate leadership job, as it wasn't helping the health issues and alongside wedding planning, dealing with ongoing infertility, myself and DH decided I needed a break and financially we'd be fine for a while. I yielded to pressure to visit my parents this weekend, thought they might want to see our official wedding photos, ask about surgery...but the experience became entirely about my younger sibling and her new boyfriend, who joined us for dinner and breakfast the next morning. They talked new house, mortgage rates, gossiped about sibling's friends and patients...No questions about us, the wedding aftermath, my surgery, my post job life, etc. I sat at their kitchen dinner table and felt like a ghost, like the three hour drive by my husband was a total waste of time, like we may as well not be there. I felt like a neglected child all over again.

I'm 38 years old and I can no longer tolerate being treated like this. I actually feel like the chronic stress of their neglect and favouritism has contributed to my health issues. My husband can't tell me enough that my mother is "not a mother to me", is "more interested in how things look than how you are". The recent hardship in my life have made their lack of interest in me and over-investment in younger sibling more intolerable than ever.

I just don't know how to proceed with these people, that are supposed to be family but who treat me worst than a stranger. It's also important to note that they are ageing, in their 70s and cognitive decline has set in. There will also be much to consider with care for my complex needs sibling in the next few years.

Can anyone relate? Does anyone have parents or a family dynamic like this? Can anyone provide insight, or examples of how you dealt with your own family dysfunction? Is No Contact the only way to have a happy, healthy life now?

TLDR: I am the middle neglected child in a toxic family system that includes sibling favouritism, a sibling with special needs and parents that are ageing rapidly. I don't know how to proceed in this dynamic while protecting my peace.

OP posts:
Pictures50 · 10/09/2024 16:08

You will never have the life, marriage, family, peace you deserve whilst you remain in contact with a toxic family.

Challenging them will solve nothing.
They simply cannot hear anything but their own convenient narrative.
We cannot change others, only ourselves.

Back away firmly, quietly, decisively.

It is very painful to realise that your life holds no value to them.
But that really is on them.

Unfortunately these are the very types that will try and foist caring duties on you whilst at the same time telling you golden child is too busy/important/tired etc.

Get in front of this by getting out now, quietly.
Get some good therapy so that you can move forward in life.
It really is possible.

Hanging around for caring duties is not something you want to be dragged into.

Caring duties can be challenging when you love your parents, but torture whdn you know they showed you a thousand ways they really never cared.

Listen to your husband, he sounds as if he sees things clearly.

Protect your new marriage by stepping out from the dark shadow of your family.

It can be done and a much lighter, brighter future awaits you.

stayathomer · 10/09/2024 16:16

Op I’ll be honest it sounds like you overthink a lot of this, you’re seen as capable so they don’t feel the need to help you, parents will always try to help the youngest more as they still see them as a baby. It’s just unfortunate that since they had to help your elder sister that just left you as being the only one they didn’t tend to. Sometimes honestly you just have to accept the way things go in the pecking order, but at the same time you could talk to your parents and tell them you’d like them to be there for you more. I honestly think the more distance you take the more bitter you’ll get and whatever their thoughts your mind will change it to them not bothering to try to maintain contact. I’m so sorry you’ve been dealt this hand but I think you need to relax and not see yourself as neglected, rather ‘capable’. Best of luck x

hildabaker · 10/09/2024 16:18

Be very careful, OP. You say your parents are beginning to decline. I think your older sister won't be able to help with them, and your golden child sister will run away as soon as there's a whiff of your parents needing help, like all golden children do. Who does that leave? Be very careful.

RandomMess · 10/09/2024 16:21

Going LC is very easy, you just stop bothering!

TBH it's the only way my mental health could be ok. My decision was accelerated by becoming a parent in my mid 20s. I just couldn't cope with contact with them.

Sorry they have been so shitty, it's a grief that takes a long time to work through.

Flowers
MrRobinsonsQuango · 10/09/2024 16:27

stayathomer · 10/09/2024 16:16

Op I’ll be honest it sounds like you overthink a lot of this, you’re seen as capable so they don’t feel the need to help you, parents will always try to help the youngest more as they still see them as a baby. It’s just unfortunate that since they had to help your elder sister that just left you as being the only one they didn’t tend to. Sometimes honestly you just have to accept the way things go in the pecking order, but at the same time you could talk to your parents and tell them you’d like them to be there for you more. I honestly think the more distance you take the more bitter you’ll get and whatever their thoughts your mind will change it to them not bothering to try to maintain contact. I’m so sorry you’ve been dealt this hand but I think you need to relax and not see yourself as neglected, rather ‘capable’. Best of luck x

Why should she accept ALWAYS being bottom of the pecking order? Hardly seems fair or right to me. The relax part is especially condescending by the way, bearing in mind the subject matter

Seaoftroubles · 10/09/2024 16:34

This sounds so difficult OP, your sister is obviously unable to see things through your eyes, she had a very different childhood to the one you experienced and hasn't got the insight to realise this. Is she much younger than you? ( although that's no excuse) but l wondered if she was the spoilt baby of the family in years also.
lt's telling that your best friend can't stand her, that says a lot! From your description of her personality l can't see that you will benefit from anything but keeping very low contact, she is too enmeshed with your parents and is very clearly extremely comfortable and entitled in her gc position. She will never be the sister you want her to be, so please spare yourself the repeated disappointment of hoping she will change.

DBSFstupid · 10/09/2024 16:36

stayathomer · 10/09/2024 16:16

Op I’ll be honest it sounds like you overthink a lot of this, you’re seen as capable so they don’t feel the need to help you, parents will always try to help the youngest more as they still see them as a baby. It’s just unfortunate that since they had to help your elder sister that just left you as being the only one they didn’t tend to. Sometimes honestly you just have to accept the way things go in the pecking order, but at the same time you could talk to your parents and tell them you’d like them to be there for you more. I honestly think the more distance you take the more bitter you’ll get and whatever their thoughts your mind will change it to them not bothering to try to maintain contact. I’m so sorry you’ve been dealt this hand but I think you need to relax and not see yourself as neglected, rather ‘capable’. Best of luck x

You are totally undermining her horrific life.

wonderingwonderingwondering · 10/09/2024 16:49

stayathomer · 10/09/2024 16:16

Op I’ll be honest it sounds like you overthink a lot of this, you’re seen as capable so they don’t feel the need to help you, parents will always try to help the youngest more as they still see them as a baby. It’s just unfortunate that since they had to help your elder sister that just left you as being the only one they didn’t tend to. Sometimes honestly you just have to accept the way things go in the pecking order, but at the same time you could talk to your parents and tell them you’d like them to be there for you more. I honestly think the more distance you take the more bitter you’ll get and whatever their thoughts your mind will change it to them not bothering to try to maintain contact. I’m so sorry you’ve been dealt this hand but I think you need to relax and not see yourself as neglected, rather ‘capable’. Best of luck x

I genuinely do want to hear all opinions on this, as it's such a confusing experience to have lived through and my intention in starting this thread was to provide as much details as possible and see if outside / unattached perspectives can help me with seeing things I'm not already seeing or considering. So I thank you for your opinion and your post.

I definitely overthink. Story of my life. And it's helped me a lot - I'd go so far as to say I've built a successful career on it. I think and I question a lot and I always want to know why, why, why. It's a huge difference between me and my other family members tbh, who accept what they hear or learned 30+ years ago, that's just the way it is and so be it. And I do think these huge differences in values, points of view, opened vs closed mindsets have contributed to the gap in understanding between us over my lifetime. My favoured sibling is a carbon copy of my mother. She values wealth, status, is extroverted, gossips a lot, doesn't tend to self reflect just like my mother. I used to be labelled "just like my father" when I did something my mother disapproved of, but in all honesty I'm not like him either. He's passive, sees the world negatively, doesn't pay any attention or value to emotions, vulnerability or self expression.

I've had the "I'd like you to be there more" discussion. I got a lot of "you never ask for help / we ARE proud of you / in many ways you've always been the capable one" and then nothing changes. I've been left holding the bag wondering, what did we agree to change? I've called, and been talked at for hours on end. i've opened up, and been judged and shamed for it. When I told them I quit my job, I was met with silence, followed hours later by invasive questions - when did you leave? Did you get fired? What's been most - MOST mindfcuking for me, is that I know that their intention is not bad. It's not to hurt me. But they just always, always resort to form, which is over-interest in my sibling's life while I'm out of sight, out of mind. Until my mother needs information for her own interests. Before my wedding, she wanted to control the narrative with extended family and that was why the increased phone calls came, for a week or two. They just lead with their own needs and their own comfort, and it's bled into a lifetime of feeling invisible, small, less important than anyone else in any room I'm in, and like I don't deserve to expect anyone to meet my needs or care about my feelings. I've - funnily enough - never felt capable, not even when I'm achieved objectively great things. I've always felt "what's the point" and "that was a one-off and only happened because X, Y, Z"

For a long time I thought my trauma was my older sister's mental illness. We've all had to grieve her, while she's still alive and a shadow of herself, it's been brutal. I've always understood why I missed out on a lot of parental love and support during that time. I worked that out in therapy about ten years ago. I held onto anger for a while, but released it, grieved my sister, and then was left looking at what existed of my family dynamic in the present day. And it's being called "capable, indepedent, always did her own thing" despite so much mental pain and struggles, and often while I'm going through present-day suffering that again is unknown to them, ignored. Right now there's chronic health issues, infertility and a long road of fertility treatments ahead, career loss and what likely will be a long road back to the work place, coming to grips with an ADHD diagnosis.

It's landed me at this: I was the most high functioning child at a particular juncture in my life, a time that was also the most vulnerable and traumatic time of my life, but that doesn't mean I was not a kid. That doesn't mean that no help or attention was needed, guidance should've stopped point blank from that point. But that was a decision, conscious or otherwise, taken by my parents because it suited them. And all of my health issues have in some ways been caused by the chronic stress that this kind of hyper-independence has put on me.

OP posts:
SlothOnARope · 10/09/2024 17:30

My favoured sibling is a carbon copy of my mother. She values wealth, status, is extroverted, gossips a lot, doesn't tend to self reflect just like my mother.

There's your answer, OP. Your mother has a lot of common ground with your younger sister, their relationship is "easy" for her, and she's not naturally inclined to ask herself why that is. Their personalities click. She obviously likes that.

This does not mean she doesn't care about you, just that she cannot show it. And it certainly doesn't mean that you are worth less, that there is anything wrong with you, that your achievements are less valid. You just get on with stuff without making a fuss, which in my book fwiw is a really admirable quality.

To feel better about your family, you must first accept yourself, as you are. Accept your sister, as she is. You are two completely different people. Different is fine. But for your own sake, you have to assert yourself, even if it's uncomfortable for you to do that at first. Eg if they're talking about dsis mortgage/amazing house for the 47th time that day, you can steer the conversation away "Haven't we already discussed that..." "Anyway, about [insert topic of interest to you]". Listen less and talk more. Ask for what you want.

MinorTom · 10/09/2024 17:33

This reads very blaming of the original poster and to be honest lacks empathy for the OPs experience but has tonnes and tonnes of empathy for the parents, it’s very strange. Lots of healthy parents consider their adult children capable and don’t behave remotely the way the poster describes.

MinorTom · 10/09/2024 17:38

SlothOnARope · 10/09/2024 17:30

My favoured sibling is a carbon copy of my mother. She values wealth, status, is extroverted, gossips a lot, doesn't tend to self reflect just like my mother.

There's your answer, OP. Your mother has a lot of common ground with your younger sister, their relationship is "easy" for her, and she's not naturally inclined to ask herself why that is. Their personalities click. She obviously likes that.

This does not mean she doesn't care about you, just that she cannot show it. And it certainly doesn't mean that you are worth less, that there is anything wrong with you, that your achievements are less valid. You just get on with stuff without making a fuss, which in my book fwiw is a really admirable quality.

To feel better about your family, you must first accept yourself, as you are. Accept your sister, as she is. You are two completely different people. Different is fine. But for your own sake, you have to assert yourself, even if it's uncomfortable for you to do that at first. Eg if they're talking about dsis mortgage/amazing house for the 47th time that day, you can steer the conversation away "Haven't we already discussed that..." "Anyway, about [insert topic of interest to you]". Listen less and talk more. Ask for what you want.

This is such nonsense my mother’s golden child was male and she supported him not because he was like her or easier but because she had issues. She supported him even when he abused her two daughters. This stuff is not rational it certainly wasn’t because my brother was easy or their personalities clicked it is because these types of parents have deficits in parenting. Any of us who have experienced see the patterns, it isn’t about the child it is about the parents. Oh and actually my mother doesn’t care about me, she cares about herself, how she appears to others.

Flibflobflibflob · 10/09/2024 17:39

Lexy70 · 10/09/2024 14:41

Re explaining yourself, don't, it will be weaponised against you and more evidence that you are the difficult one.

I've found it therapeutic writing letters to my parents,getting it all out but burning the letter.

Ps the stately homes threads under relationships might be useful x

Yes this, anytime I tried to explain my distress it was turned against me and treated as proof of my selfishness and meanness. Theres no point OP, thats hard because you feel unheard but they are not going to be listening and you will walk away feeling worse.

Flibflobflibflob · 10/09/2024 17:41

stayathomer · 10/09/2024 16:16

Op I’ll be honest it sounds like you overthink a lot of this, you’re seen as capable so they don’t feel the need to help you, parents will always try to help the youngest more as they still see them as a baby. It’s just unfortunate that since they had to help your elder sister that just left you as being the only one they didn’t tend to. Sometimes honestly you just have to accept the way things go in the pecking order, but at the same time you could talk to your parents and tell them you’d like them to be there for you more. I honestly think the more distance you take the more bitter you’ll get and whatever their thoughts your mind will change it to them not bothering to try to maintain contact. I’m so sorry you’ve been dealt this hand but I think you need to relax and not see yourself as neglected, rather ‘capable’. Best of luck x

I went NC and I don’t feel bitter, I feel utter relief of not having to play out the same dynamic over and over. I dread my mother getting in contact, it make me feel nauseous.

Happyfarm · 10/09/2024 17:42

I’m sorry, it’s such an awful situation to be in. Absolutely none of it is your fault. Our parents are supposed to love us unconditionally, but sadly many don’t. The fault is all on them. Don’t waste your time explaining to your family. Many people have said the same things. Trust me from experience all they will do is invalidate and confuse the hell out of you until your whole world is in a spiral. Hold firm how they make you feel. Remind yourself that you deserve only loving supportive people in your life, they may not come from family. Provide it for your little family and break this generational trauma. It’s a heavy responsibility but it is needed and we are strong enough to take this on. Fade away from them. I read a quote that said you don’t need to cut people off, you just grow so they they fall off. Work on yourself so that you instinctively won’t want to be around people who bring you down.

DrArchieMorrisIsVeryFunnyInSeason12 · 10/09/2024 17:44

Hi OP - I was the 'golden child' of a toxic family and I wanted to tell you my story.

I grew up with a BPD mother (diagnosed by pychiatrist) and a depressed father. Mother was cruel, twisted, bullying, abusive in private but sweetness and light in public. My dad didn't speak much except to defend my mum when she was bullying us. He wasn't really interested in me at all.

I have older and younger siblings. My siblings went low contact with my parents and I for some reason ended up 'close' to my mum. It was a very unhealthy relationship though and it took me years to see I was actually trauma bonded to her and terrified of her. My childhood had resulted in me being a brainwashed puppet who acted the part of the perfect daughter who was close to her mum and spent lots of time with her as this made my mum 'look good'. I put huge amounts of effort into her birthday and mothers day to make her look like 'the best mother in the world'. This pleased her greatly and I would be rewarded. It wasn't a direct payment or anything but I played the part of a good daughter so my mum looked like a great mother. In turn I got lots of money and help from them.

If I tried to not speak to her for any reason my dad would call my house over and over (like 100 times) till i answered then would be mad at me for upsetting my mum. He also let himself into my house several times to 'force' me to speak to her. If I didn't play the part my mum needed she would be angry and take it out on my dad and thus his desperation to 'save himself'

She would tell my boyfriends they would be able to manipulate me (as she had been doing for years) and they were of course horrified.

As an adult who lived away from home I mostly only saw the 'nice' side to her and so I kind of forgot how bad my childhood was (I know this sounds strange).
Like most abusive people she also had good qualities. I have been on AD's for most of my life and have an eating disorder. I was also a perfectionist (trying to be perfect so nobody could be angry or critisise me. In short I am a mess)

In later life I looked after her until she died and at this point as her life was 'not going well' her behaviour went back to how she used to be when I was a child. I was able to witness this behaviour through adult eyes and it was utterly terrifying. I spent these years with bad insomnia, putting on 6 stones, regular chest pain from stress and praying for her to die for it to end.

(I know it sounds dramatic but it was true).

In a nutshell when life was going well, or she got everything her own way my mum was this 'Doris Day' happy happy happy type of person. When anything went wrong (and it could be tiny things) or if anyone tried to stand up to her or if she didn't get her own way or if anyone made her feel rejected in any shape or form you would feel the full power of her BPD rage.

She played me and my siblings off against each other so we have no relationship.

She was furious she was dying and told me she would haunt me when she died so 'don't think you are getting away from me'

To my siblings who went low contact I was the golden child who was favoured financially and had help with things. They are angry and don't speak to me. (not much of a loss as there was very little relationship before anyway). I don't think they are actually angry at me. I think they are angry at my mum but I am a safe target to vent their rage at. When I was a small child they used to tell me how much they hated me (which fair enough siblings do that to each other) however to this day they fall about laughing when they recall how they used to say that to me over and over. They were 10 and 12 and I would have been 2.

My parents are dead now and my siblings are all in touch with one another but none of them speak to me because I was favoured financially.

My mum did offer my sister money if she helped out with looking after her and my sister said no.

In toxic families I think among the children there are no winners only losers.
Each child is messed up in their own way. My mum left my siblings letters to be given to them after her death to tell them how dissapointed she was in them and thus she was leaving the bulk of her estate to me. I did try to talk her out of this as I thought that was a horrific last message from your mother when she was dead but my mum said 'she wished she could be a fly on the wall to see their faces when they read them'

Did you ever watch the Handmaids Tale when Jeneane was tough and outspoken at the start and then they removed her eye and she became submissive and did whatever Aunt Lydia told her to do. She even became friends with her and confided in her and got close to her. In other words she was broken from the trauma of what they did to her.

Anyway sorry for long post but I thought it might help to hear another story from the point of view of the 'golden child' which is no doubt what my siblings think I am.

coldcallerbaiter · 10/09/2024 17:48

Have none of you got dc? I wonder what your parents will do if there are gc. The dynamic may shift.

Happyfarm · 10/09/2024 17:49

DrArchieMorrisIsVeryFunnyInSeason12 · 10/09/2024 17:44

Hi OP - I was the 'golden child' of a toxic family and I wanted to tell you my story.

I grew up with a BPD mother (diagnosed by pychiatrist) and a depressed father. Mother was cruel, twisted, bullying, abusive in private but sweetness and light in public. My dad didn't speak much except to defend my mum when she was bullying us. He wasn't really interested in me at all.

I have older and younger siblings. My siblings went low contact with my parents and I for some reason ended up 'close' to my mum. It was a very unhealthy relationship though and it took me years to see I was actually trauma bonded to her and terrified of her. My childhood had resulted in me being a brainwashed puppet who acted the part of the perfect daughter who was close to her mum and spent lots of time with her as this made my mum 'look good'. I put huge amounts of effort into her birthday and mothers day to make her look like 'the best mother in the world'. This pleased her greatly and I would be rewarded. It wasn't a direct payment or anything but I played the part of a good daughter so my mum looked like a great mother. In turn I got lots of money and help from them.

If I tried to not speak to her for any reason my dad would call my house over and over (like 100 times) till i answered then would be mad at me for upsetting my mum. He also let himself into my house several times to 'force' me to speak to her. If I didn't play the part my mum needed she would be angry and take it out on my dad and thus his desperation to 'save himself'

She would tell my boyfriends they would be able to manipulate me (as she had been doing for years) and they were of course horrified.

As an adult who lived away from home I mostly only saw the 'nice' side to her and so I kind of forgot how bad my childhood was (I know this sounds strange).
Like most abusive people she also had good qualities. I have been on AD's for most of my life and have an eating disorder. I was also a perfectionist (trying to be perfect so nobody could be angry or critisise me. In short I am a mess)

In later life I looked after her until she died and at this point as her life was 'not going well' her behaviour went back to how she used to be when I was a child. I was able to witness this behaviour through adult eyes and it was utterly terrifying. I spent these years with bad insomnia, putting on 6 stones, regular chest pain from stress and praying for her to die for it to end.

(I know it sounds dramatic but it was true).

In a nutshell when life was going well, or she got everything her own way my mum was this 'Doris Day' happy happy happy type of person. When anything went wrong (and it could be tiny things) or if anyone tried to stand up to her or if she didn't get her own way or if anyone made her feel rejected in any shape or form you would feel the full power of her BPD rage.

She played me and my siblings off against each other so we have no relationship.

She was furious she was dying and told me she would haunt me when she died so 'don't think you are getting away from me'

To my siblings who went low contact I was the golden child who was favoured financially and had help with things. They are angry and don't speak to me. (not much of a loss as there was very little relationship before anyway). I don't think they are actually angry at me. I think they are angry at my mum but I am a safe target to vent their rage at. When I was a small child they used to tell me how much they hated me (which fair enough siblings do that to each other) however to this day they fall about laughing when they recall how they used to say that to me over and over. They were 10 and 12 and I would have been 2.

My parents are dead now and my siblings are all in touch with one another but none of them speak to me because I was favoured financially.

My mum did offer my sister money if she helped out with looking after her and my sister said no.

In toxic families I think among the children there are no winners only losers.
Each child is messed up in their own way. My mum left my siblings letters to be given to them after her death to tell them how dissapointed she was in them and thus she was leaving the bulk of her estate to me. I did try to talk her out of this as I thought that was a horrific last message from your mother when she was dead but my mum said 'she wished she could be a fly on the wall to see their faces when they read them'

Did you ever watch the Handmaids Tale when Jeneane was tough and outspoken at the start and then they removed her eye and she became submissive and did whatever Aunt Lydia told her to do. She even became friends with her and confided in her and got close to her. In other words she was broken from the trauma of what they did to her.

Anyway sorry for long post but I thought it might help to hear another story from the point of view of the 'golden child' which is no doubt what my siblings think I am.

This is so sad. Im sorry. It is hard for all roles in a dysfunctional family. I do think golden children end up worst off because they around bound to the abuser. Sometimes the scapegoats are free in a way to find their identities.

DrArchieMorrisIsVeryFunnyInSeason12 · 10/09/2024 17:51

Happyfarm · 10/09/2024 17:49

This is so sad. Im sorry. It is hard for all roles in a dysfunctional family. I do think golden children end up worst off because they around bound to the abuser. Sometimes the scapegoats are free in a way to find their identities.

thank you. I am always so shocked by the understanding of strangers. Terrible abuse becomes 'so normal' to those who grow up with it that they automatically assume they are wrong/overreacting or as my mum liked to tell everyone mentally unstable (ironic really given she wasn't wrong on that score)

Happyfarm · 10/09/2024 17:55

DrArchieMorrisIsVeryFunnyInSeason12 · 10/09/2024 17:51

thank you. I am always so shocked by the understanding of strangers. Terrible abuse becomes 'so normal' to those who grow up with it that they automatically assume they are wrong/overreacting or as my mum liked to tell everyone mentally unstable (ironic really given she wasn't wrong on that score)

My BIL is the golden child, me and partner are the scapegoat, me more so being non blood. I couldn’t give a s**t. My BIL on the other hand speaks to the mum twice a day, chats via WhatsApp all day long, runs all things past her, she is in full control and he spends his days trying to maintain what little she gives him. My partner and me on the other hand do what we want. I feel for him. He is forever stuck in this.

DrArchieMorrisIsVeryFunnyInSeason12 · 10/09/2024 18:00

Also OP with a family like yours (and mine) who think it is acceptable to treat their children differently you will never win no matter what you do. Your mum is broken and whether you stay away, go low contact or try to win her over you will never fill the empty hole inside you where the unconditional bond of motherly love should have been.

My guess is the reason your mother tells you so much about your sisters life is bcause it proves what a great mum she is helping out her child. My mum was also quick to boast about her childrens achievements and what she had done to help them as it made her look good.

I think the answer is therapy (i have been looking into this for myself but the cost is eye watering) and to focus on your own family. Remind yourself often there is absolutely nothing wrong with you. You had a bad start in life and have done the best you could with the situation you had. None of it reflects on you at all.

I'm very, very sorry for your pain and I hope you find a good therapist to help you work through it. x

BleepingBleepy · 10/09/2024 18:05

I get it, OP. Fairly similar dynamic in my house with my dad being emotionally absent and borderline abusive to my mum. She hadn't had a stable childhood herself, and is very needy and so turned one of my siblings into her 'surrogate spouse'. He is obsessed with having her approval and can do no wrong. In childhood, he was diagnosed with cancer (50% survival rate) which made them even closer, and pushed the rest of us out even more. He survived, and, like your sis, they are utterly enmeshed decades later. He has never had a romantic relationship. Every conversation I have with her centres back to him. She does everything for him.

My parents have visited my house I think three times in two years because it's "too far" (45 mins) even though they'll travel two or three times that for my two other (non-golden) siblings who detest both of them.

If I text, it will get ignored for a day before they bother to respond. I have tried to say I find this hurtful, but nothing changed.
Like you, I don't know what to do about it. There have been good times, and so long as I was providing my mother with what she needed when my brother was away (uni) she was very caring to me.
One of my memories is the first time we were allowed to see each other after the first covid lockdown. My mum and brother had not paid any attention to the lockdowns and continued to see each other daily. (Live just down the road from one another).

She hadn't seen me for months, but rather than chatting with me and my husband, she spent the whole time following my brother round the kitchen, helping him open packets of food and load the dishwasher and put stuff away and talking to him. My brother was even telling her to go and sit with her daughter and she just stayed with him!

Sorry, this is a very incoherent response. I don't know what the answer is. I try to keep contact because I suspect they haven't a huge amount of time left and I don't want to have regrets, but jeez, every family get-together takes days to get over, doesn't it? You know rationally this isn't your fault and doesn't reflect on you as a perosn, but it's so fucking hurtful. I think it must be even more lonely for you because you haven't really got an ally in the family. I presume your oldest sister isn't really in a position to vent with you. I'm sorry that your parents weren't proper parents to you.

Lemonadeand · 10/09/2024 18:12

So upsetting. No matter how successful and fulfilled you are, a part of you is always that emotionally neglected child who never stops hoping things will be different. Tend to that child and do what you’ve got to do.

stayathomer · 10/09/2024 18:14

wonderingwonderingwondering

you answered me above and I’ll be honest I’ve never ever wanted to hug anyone as much as I do you. I hope someone here properly can provide you with the reassurance you need. You deserve a break. Gigantic hugs xxxxxxxx

stayathomer · 10/09/2024 18:24

MrRobinsonsQuango

relax because she’s stressed and it’s something she’s thinking about so much when she has so many issues on her plate. As someone who has actual heart issues sometimes we need to be told to breathe and relax

LindorDoubleChoc · 10/09/2024 18:31

I feel for you OP. But, honestly, the ONLY thing you can do is move on from the resentment or it will eat away at you. Sometimes in the middle of the night I still (aged over 60!) mull over my fucked up family and my black sheep place in it (somewhere in the middle of 5 children, 3 boys and 2 girls). My Dad was hopeless with me and yet all the others adored him.

But ... nothing comes of it, nothing will ever change, this is just the way it is. Try and build an off switch into your brain so you just literally change the subject in your mind when you start dwelling.