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Is this abusive?

89 replies

Hanz1985 · 08/09/2024 10:52

Hi all, so last night while at home with my partner something happened and I’m looking for opinions because honestly, I feel my judgement is off at the moment.

I’d baked some cookies and my partner shouted the kids down to try them. His son was tired from a long day out of the house. They turned out much bigger than expected but they were soft, so quite hard to pick up without them breaking in 2. His son sat down next to him and was trying to pick his cookie up without it breaking and whilst picking it up my partner started getting irritated with him with how long it was taking. All of a sudden (his son had his mouth open ready to put the cookie straight in) he grabbed it off him and shoved a handful of it straight into his mouth so it was full to the brim, his eyes welled up straight away and he didn’t know what else to do but stand up and run away upstairs silent crying (he couldn’t cry properly because his mouth was full). I was shocked by what we’d just witnessed. My son said he could have choked then, and he said I hope he does the fucking idiot. I said that isn’t ok what you just did? He made me feel like I was overreacting, we had an argument over it and he basically told me it’s his son so he chooses how to discipline him, no one else and maybe my kids would be better behaved if I followed suit.

Its made me feel sick, my own son has an eating disorder, which is linked to his autism. But knowing how sensitive he is with food and how even certain simple things can cause issues has maybe over triggered me. Or maybe not, how would you address this?

OP posts:
Hanz1985 · 08/09/2024 13:06

jetbot · 08/09/2024 13:01

and your poor son having to live with his mothers boyfriend who is a vile cretin

In all honesty I’ve been trying to leave. I’m finding it really difficult though. I’m reaching out on here as I’m kind of worried about where this is going to lead and didn’t know wether telling the child’s mother at this moment was the right thing to do as it will all kick off as I’m sure she’ll be straight on the phone to him, as I would be.

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jetbot · 08/09/2024 13:06

oh bloody hell just read your other threads about this man

get your children out of this op

Anotherparkingthread · 08/09/2024 13:09

How old is his son?

What a horrible man. You need to throw him out. Does his son live with you both full time?

NoBodyIdRatherBe · 08/09/2024 13:09

Why do you want to be with this wanker?

WhereAreWeNow · 08/09/2024 13:10

I'm sorry OP. What a horrible thing to witness. His poor son.
I think two things:

  1. His son can't defend himself so he needs you to advocate for him (which you've done by challenging your DP). I would consider talking to the lad's mum. Do you know why they split up? She might have experienced this kind of behaviour from your DP before.
  2. You've seen your DP act in anger to hurt and humiliate a loved one with less power than him. I would assume that if he's capable of treating his own son like that, he's also capable of treating you and your son in the same way. Protect yourself and your boy.
Itiswhysofew · 08/09/2024 13:13

That is so wrong. The poor lad. Yes, do tell his mum and tell his dad to get out.

Stepawayfromthefridgenow · 08/09/2024 13:14

Poor kid 😔 how old is he? It’s humiliating for him

soberholic · 08/09/2024 13:14

Either this is a wind-up or relationship is already over before you put this on mumsnet.

If this is real and you're still considering staying with this 'partner' 🥺

jetbot · 08/09/2024 13:14

how do you think he behaves…. when you’re not around op?

Just4thisthreadtoday · 08/09/2024 13:18

@Hanz1985

he's an abusive cunt, keep getting things organised to leave.

how come he's with you far more than his Mum? Is she able to have him full time ? Would you be able to have him occasionally?

whose is the house you're in? Owned/rented?

Do you have any joint children?

be strong, you can do this!!

Hanz1985 · 08/09/2024 14:36

Spoke to his mum, she said it’s not on but she’s not getting involved and at the end of the day it’s a bit of cake and it’s not nice but he’s ok so it’s for me to sort out with him if I’m not happy with him 🙈.

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Binman · 08/09/2024 14:38

I think this man has treated you so badly previously, including gaslighting, that you are questioning your own judgment. To be worried about telling the boys mother because of this man’s reaction is very telling.

xyz111 · 08/09/2024 14:50

You need to leave this man. Whose house is it? You need to get away from him.

huuskymam · 08/09/2024 14:54

Honestly I'd dump him and tell the ex wife how he treats his son. No child should be abused or be around someone that can do that.

CeffylCoch · 08/09/2024 15:00

That poor boy. That is really disgusting behaviour. Don't allow him to even try justifying it, he has given you the reason you need to get rid. Vile

jetbot · 08/09/2024 16:37

Hanz1985 · 08/09/2024 14:36

Spoke to his mum, she said it’s not on but she’s not getting involved and at the end of the day it’s a bit of cake and it’s not nice but he’s ok so it’s for me to sort out with him if I’m not happy with him 🙈.

Gojnf by how he treated your daughter in the other thread you started about this cretin

I suggest you channel you efforts towards dealing with getting your own children out of this ghastly family home

Hanz1985 · 08/09/2024 20:27

Just4thisthreadtoday · 08/09/2024 13:18

@Hanz1985

he's an abusive cunt, keep getting things organised to leave.

how come he's with you far more than his Mum? Is she able to have him full time ? Would you be able to have him occasionally?

whose is the house you're in? Owned/rented?

Do you have any joint children?

be strong, you can do this!!

Well the reason is, my partner has arranged hobbies for him most nights of the week and each Saturday. So whereas before, his mum would have him every other weekend, my partner has now told her she can’t take their son to his hobby on a Saturday now, or any other night for that matter because she turned up one week with him a few minutes late. So because of that shift in dynamics a few months ago, he’s told her it’s easier for him to stay here on the nights he has his hobbies so she now has him less than before, when previous it was pretty much 50/50. She queried it in the beginning but now seems happy with the arrangement. I’d be happy to have him occasionally. We’ll really miss him.

We’re in a joint tenancy, I’ve actually asked him to leave tonight but he’s refused.

No joint children thankfully.

Thank you x

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Hanz1985 · 08/09/2024 20:37

He hasn’t even tried to justify it. Once again we’ve had a ‘talk’ and he said he’s done nothing wrong and he’s punished him as he sees fit, it’s nothing to do with me as I don’t get an opinion. I’ve also been told that I’m not a decent ‘step mum’ to his child and that I treat him different to my own and all kinds of awful things.

He said I have no routine for my kids and that I let them do whatever the hell they want. This isn’t true btw but I don’t go hard on them, I don’t need to they’re good kids on the whole and I’ve started giving them a bit of freedom here and there like walking to school as they’re old enough to now but he calls this me ‘not giving a shit’ what they get upto. I feel like he’s deflecting massively to get out of what he did. He’s just FaceTimed his son in front of me who’s now with his mum and asked if his mouth is ok. And joked if he didn’t behave himself he’d do it again next time. I don’t know if his mum is going to query this, or if she even heard. He said yes, of course. So I’m the one overreacting and I’m a weirdo and crazy. I’m livid to be honest, I’ve had enough 😢

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Emptyheadlock · 08/09/2024 20:57

Ffs op.

Get your kids away from this twat.

And report his abuse to ss and the boys mum.

jetbot · 08/09/2024 21:00

Emptyheadlock · 08/09/2024 20:57

Ffs op.

Get your kids away from this twat.

And report his abuse to ss and the boys mum.

next to no chance of this happening

Itiswhysofew · 08/09/2024 22:30

No loving parent would do that to their child. He obviously sees humiliation as acceptable. To me that is abhorrent.

It sad that his own mother isn't protecting him.

Hanz1985 · 10/09/2024 10:01

jetbot · 08/09/2024 21:00

next to no chance of this happening

Which part?

I have a viewing on a house later on today, hopefully I can get an application in on it before anyone else then slowly move my things out and leave.

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PoliteExpert · 11/09/2024 08:27

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GrazingSheep · 11/09/2024 08:29

Those poor boys - his and yours.

mamajong · 11/09/2024 08:31

Red flag for me, especially as there is no remorse or recognition that it's wrong

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