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Husband of 4 years wants to leave as soon as he can for adventure

159 replies

Treelover4 · 01/09/2024 20:01

We have been together for nearly 5 years. We have two children and last night, he told me he wants to leave as soon as he’s able to. I can “keep the kids” apparently even though he was the one that wanted lots of kids and I would rather have had a couple of years just the two of us. Anyway, in the past there has been verbal and physical abuse and he’s recently been on a DV course so I thought we were getting somewhere.

I am currently the breadwinner and he does contribute where he can but I pay the rent and 90% of childcare and utility bills. It feels the “soon as he can” stems from the fact that he’s really just using this place as a free rental. He is starting a new job soon so rather than contribute to our family’s household expenses, he will probably just put it towards moving out.

I did confront him this morning about just being co-parenting housemates and he agreed. Throughout our relationship, I’ve caught him messaging other women and he often talks about polygamy. Looking back, I have never felt enough and this morning he confirmed that and said I never have been and never will be.

He claims that he loves me but doesn’t agree with my behaviour, my “black and white thinking” and that I’m not very adventurous because I wouldn’t “exactly go on a cycling camping trip” (I would love to go on a family camping holiday when the kids are a bit bigger). Admittedly, I don’t know how to ride a bike but he knew this when we got together, with 2 kids in 3 years, a lockdown, him going abroad for several months, my mum’s death, an abusive relationship for at least 2 of these nearly 5 years and me being the default parent- I don’t know when he expected me to learn to ride a bike. He went onto say we are too different and he’s not sure what we are doing here together. I asked if he wanted a divorce (we have only had a religious not legally binding marriage) and he said yes.

In the last year, he went abroad on a solo trip for about 4–5 months whilst I held the fort by looking after the kids solo and working full time.

I know I can’t force someone to love me and I also don’t want the kids growing up in a miserable home but I myself am from a family with a single mum and I know how tough it can be. Additionally, I know he wants to move abroad so shared custody would become difficult and I don’t want to really abandon my life here just so he can live out the dreams he has for himself and the kids. He’s said “you can come if you want”, I know he’d rather I not be there.

My question is what do I do? Do I basically just continue to let him stay because I want to keep the peace and normality for our kids? Do I demand that he starts paying his way a bit more or threaten that he leaves? Anyone had an experience similar to this?

Many thanks in advance.

OP posts:
Jk987 · 01/09/2024 22:57

'I am currently the breadwinner and he does contribute where he can but I pay the rent and 90% of childcare and utility bills. '

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What would happen if you contributed where you can? Why doesn't he pay half?

Zonder · 01/09/2024 22:57

Definitely no two month notice. He can go to his parents tomorrow.

Unexpectedlysinglemum · 01/09/2024 23:11

He is absolutely useless and society sold you a dream that you had to 'have it all' and get married and you end up with this abusive lump gaslighting you.

You'll be happier once he's gone. You are already doing it in your own so you'll be ok. X

StormingNorman · 01/09/2024 23:16

Zone2NorthLondon · 01/09/2024 22:50

Christ no. Do not pay his deposit or rent. He can approach local authority or right move for a rental. If he has money to travel and find himself he can get a rental. It’s literally not @Treelover4 responsibilty to sort his accommodation

I’m not suggesting she does. I’m suggesting she pays him off to get him out of her life. It doesn’t sound like he’s interested in a relationship with his children so chuck a couple of grand at him and get him gone.

StormingNorman · 01/09/2024 23:17

Runnerinthenight · 01/09/2024 22:38

OMG no, I wouldn't waste another penny on him!! Just tell him to go!

Money buys freedom.

Coldfinch · 01/09/2024 23:18

Just to recap: you are not married?!!

Silly of you to not get married if there are kids involved but that’s too late to regret now. Can you afford your current home without him? Stay but agree CMS to support the kids. Aim generously and it will just about be enough.

Don’t let him stay while he waits for his bus to take him to amazing places. Tell him to get out.

A word of advice: learn how to bike. It’s a life skill. Wrong of him to mock you for not being able to bike but damn you need to learn it. Stop making excuses.

RenoDakota · 01/09/2024 23:19

Christ, you read about some useless shit men on here but this one takes the biscuit.

Motnight · 01/09/2024 23:19

Coldfinch · 01/09/2024 23:18

Just to recap: you are not married?!!

Silly of you to not get married if there are kids involved but that’s too late to regret now. Can you afford your current home without him? Stay but agree CMS to support the kids. Aim generously and it will just about be enough.

Don’t let him stay while he waits for his bus to take him to amazing places. Tell him to get out.

A word of advice: learn how to bike. It’s a life skill. Wrong of him to mock you for not being able to bike but damn you need to learn it. Stop making excuses.

I think that it's probably to Op's benefit that they aren't married taking into account that she's the higher earner

Scentedjasmin · 01/09/2024 23:20

Surely no man can really be this much of a shit?? Although I did chuckle at his suggestion of a cycling camping trip with two small kids. He couldn't honestly have been serious? Can you imagine if you'd packed him off on an adventure with two toddlers, a tent and a bike for a couple of weeks! No advice other than you are massively lucky not to have a legal marriage, that you are the main bread winner and that he actually wants to leave. These are all wins in this situation.

TheSquareMile · 01/09/2024 23:21

@Treelover4

Why did he go to Thailand for 5 months without you or his children, OP?

Does he have family there?

ClockwiseHoneysuckle · 01/09/2024 23:22

Menchildren who are constantly searching for "adventure" are sad little twats, particularly when they realise that they have thrown away the chance of having the greatest adventure of all, that of bringing up their children. Add in the selfishness about money and the domestic violence, and I'm afraid you have a megatwat there. You will be so much better off with him out of your life.

Baldrick23 · 01/09/2024 23:24

You must be brave and get rid of this guy he is appalling

Aquamarine1029 · 01/09/2024 23:24

Giving this loser two months is a very, very bad decision. Tell him his new adventure starts today.

PickAChew · 01/09/2024 23:26

2 months is too long. Think of him as a lodger who has outstayed his welcome rather than as a tenant and hoof him immediately. He can sofa surf. He wants an adventure, after all.

maryberryslayers · 01/09/2024 23:51

Just thank your lucky stars you didn't marry this loser!

Stop letting him sponge off you! He's an abusive wanker and you need him out of your lives, if not for yourself do it for your children.

Inform the landlord that you need the locks changed and agree a time for the locksmith to come when the dickhead is out. Pack his stuff and leave it on the doorstep. Call the police if he does anything other than fuck off. Tell him to go through the courts to see the kids, I'm sure he won't bother, but you don't want them around him if you can help it.

BoreOffAboutYerChickensEmma · 01/09/2024 23:54

I know this thread is long, I haven’t RTFT but wanted to say he sounds like a monumental twat.

Yalta · 02/09/2024 00:27

if he wants to go then wave him bye bye today and let him figure stuff out for himself

make sure you know all about his new job and how much he is being paid because he will need to pay child maintenance. Time he grew up.

Can I ask how he is supposed to be going on an adventure when he is starting a new job

Would give him a week, 10 days at most. He doesn’t want to be there so why keep him? Let him start his big adventure.

OlderGlaswegianLivingInDevon · 02/09/2024 00:38

'he told me he wants to leave as soon as he’s able to.'

Ask him how soon can he be gone and to leave his house keys on the way out the door.

bye bye

and you ask yourself how quickly you can submit a CMS claim...

Thank goodness you didn't have a legal wedding - no divorce to sort out / pay for !

TheNuthatch · 02/09/2024 00:39

You can do this op, you really can! Don't give him two months notice, he can go to his parents. Let them deal with this abusive steaming turd of a man they created. You and your dc will thrive without him dragging you down and belittling you.
He isn't a good dad op, good dads don't feck off to Thailand for months, or abuse their partners. I suppose he goes to Thailand to play golf and admire the scenery does he?
Get him out as soon as you can, but do it safely. It can be a dangerous time for you. Good luck

Runnerinthenight · 02/09/2024 00:43

TheNuthatch · 02/09/2024 00:39

You can do this op, you really can! Don't give him two months notice, he can go to his parents. Let them deal with this abusive steaming turd of a man they created. You and your dc will thrive without him dragging you down and belittling you.
He isn't a good dad op, good dads don't feck off to Thailand for months, or abuse their partners. I suppose he goes to Thailand to play golf and admire the scenery does he?
Get him out as soon as you can, but do it safely. It can be a dangerous time for you. Good luck

He can go to hell, as he should have after Thailand!! I very much doubt he was sightseeing - well maybe he was, in a fashion!

mummybearSW19 · 02/09/2024 01:50

Wow. That's awful.

See a lawyer.

Split up. Throw him out. And see what happens.

He clearly has no interest in anyone but himself. Not you. Not the kids.

Protect the kids. Get rid of him asap.

Ger1atricMillennial · 02/09/2024 02:46

Hmmmm... I think from reading this you are better off without him to be honest in the long run.

I stopped dating in my middle-late 30's because so many men on the dating apps had this "ethical polygamy" option, it always ended up being code for a man who couldn't deal with not being the center of attention and worshipped when kids come along.

mathanxiety · 02/09/2024 04:02

No, you are already a single mother, and you need to give him his marching orders. You and your children will be much better off without this abusive presence in your lives.

But first, you need to see a solicitor about property and debts.
Do you own or rent your home?
Whose name is on the mortgage or lease or deeds?
Is there a joint account?

You are not legally married, so the details about ownership of property are important.

After you have secured any property of yours and made sure debts are separate, you can go to a religious official and begin whatever religious separation protocols that may be available to you.

You also need to get STD tested. Sorry.

Ponderingwindow · 02/09/2024 04:28

I wouldn’t give him 2 months. The most dangerous time in a DV situation is when you finally put an end to the relationship. If he has family he can stay with while he looks for something permanent, then just tell him to leave. Preferably have family or friends on standby to help you get him out.

you aren’t married. If it isn’t recognized by the state, it isn’t a marriage.you have none of the protections of marriage, but neither does he. You already pay the bulk of the bills. You will be much better off with him gone, probably even financially.

simpledeer · 02/09/2024 05:38

Two months???!!!!!! No way!

Tell him to get out this week.