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Husband of 4 years wants to leave as soon as he can for adventure

159 replies

Treelover4 · 01/09/2024 20:01

We have been together for nearly 5 years. We have two children and last night, he told me he wants to leave as soon as he’s able to. I can “keep the kids” apparently even though he was the one that wanted lots of kids and I would rather have had a couple of years just the two of us. Anyway, in the past there has been verbal and physical abuse and he’s recently been on a DV course so I thought we were getting somewhere.

I am currently the breadwinner and he does contribute where he can but I pay the rent and 90% of childcare and utility bills. It feels the “soon as he can” stems from the fact that he’s really just using this place as a free rental. He is starting a new job soon so rather than contribute to our family’s household expenses, he will probably just put it towards moving out.

I did confront him this morning about just being co-parenting housemates and he agreed. Throughout our relationship, I’ve caught him messaging other women and he often talks about polygamy. Looking back, I have never felt enough and this morning he confirmed that and said I never have been and never will be.

He claims that he loves me but doesn’t agree with my behaviour, my “black and white thinking” and that I’m not very adventurous because I wouldn’t “exactly go on a cycling camping trip” (I would love to go on a family camping holiday when the kids are a bit bigger). Admittedly, I don’t know how to ride a bike but he knew this when we got together, with 2 kids in 3 years, a lockdown, him going abroad for several months, my mum’s death, an abusive relationship for at least 2 of these nearly 5 years and me being the default parent- I don’t know when he expected me to learn to ride a bike. He went onto say we are too different and he’s not sure what we are doing here together. I asked if he wanted a divorce (we have only had a religious not legally binding marriage) and he said yes.

In the last year, he went abroad on a solo trip for about 4–5 months whilst I held the fort by looking after the kids solo and working full time.

I know I can’t force someone to love me and I also don’t want the kids growing up in a miserable home but I myself am from a family with a single mum and I know how tough it can be. Additionally, I know he wants to move abroad so shared custody would become difficult and I don’t want to really abandon my life here just so he can live out the dreams he has for himself and the kids. He’s said “you can come if you want”, I know he’d rather I not be there.

My question is what do I do? Do I basically just continue to let him stay because I want to keep the peace and normality for our kids? Do I demand that he starts paying his way a bit more or threaten that he leaves? Anyone had an experience similar to this?

Many thanks in advance.

OP posts:
Myusername19 · 01/09/2024 21:27

You sound downtrodden and like you have no self esteem left to even consider wanting to keep him around. tell him to fuck off!!

CitronellaDeVille · 01/09/2024 21:28

OP, so sorry you are dealing with this.

But however painful now, you will be so much better without him.

2 months is way too long. It will fray you to threadbare . Give him 2 days. He can just as easily go to his parents in 2 days as in 2 months.

Of he can show how adventurous he is and live in his tent.

Thank goodness he won’t be able to get his hands on your car, pension, any savings.

Oh, and I would get an STI test if I were you. Post Thailand and all that.

Bon courage OP, you are worth 10 of him.

Treelover4 · 01/09/2024 21:28

Ineffable23 · 01/09/2024 21:22

Two months is a ridiculously generous amount of time and given his been previously abusive I wouldn't be giving him anywhere near that much time - after all, leaving a relationship is a dangerous time for women and I would expect more so with a history of domestic abuse.

He doesn't pay any bills so he's not even a lodger, he's a guest. That means he has zero rights to stay for any longer than you choose to keep him. Two weeks would be generous in the circumstances.

As the DV course is ongoing and I work full time and we have neighbours, nurseries etc involved, he would be incredibly stupid to try something.

OP posts:
Kittybluecat · 01/09/2024 21:30

Don't give him 2 months to laugh in your face. You aren't his landlord. Tell him to f off.

MissScarletInTheBallroom · 01/09/2024 21:30

What a fucking wanker.

What is wrong with these men?

Do you have more income and assets than he does? If so, the fact that you are not legally married may prove to be a blessing.

MouseMama · 01/09/2024 21:30

Start my moving all your cash into your sole name if you haven’t already. What about your home - do you own it together or by yourself or is it rented? Since you’re not legally married it should be reasonably straightforward to split. I don’t think you’ll miss him once he’s gone…

spiderdave · 01/09/2024 21:30

What on earth did you see in this bellend?! It sounds like a blessing that he's leaving!

I'd cheerily help him pack and tell him to get on his fucking bike as soon as tomorrow!

Choochoo21 · 01/09/2024 21:32

I can “keep the kids” apparently

What a lovely man 🙄🙄

He is vile OP and I don’t know why you’re putting up with this.

You know for a fact he’s going to leave you, he’s just not in a rush because he currently has a cushy like with you paying the bills.

Tell him to move out.
Stop having sex with him.
Stop doing any of his laundry etc.

No one deserves to be treated like this.

Mix56 · 01/09/2024 21:32

Well Cocklodger,
"As you are planning to leave me, I suggest you start immediately.
First off you sit down & explain you are leaving to the dc. Then you take this (bin bag packed ready) & go. Today, Now.
Leave the key. You can collect you other rubbish when dc are in school" oh and
"Fuck you & the horse you rode in on"

diddl · 01/09/2024 21:33

He's not a good dad-he abuses their mum!

Mix56 · 01/09/2024 21:34

Plus. Change all passwords today
Hide passports
Get copies of all & every pension & saving accounts

arethereanyleftatall · 01/09/2024 21:34

diddl · 01/09/2024 21:33

He's not a good dad-he abuses their mum!

Indeed. There's been some research out recently that suggests that the most important thing for thriving happy children is a happy mum.

pikkumyy77 · 01/09/2024 21:35

Agree with everyone else: just tell him to go. He doesn’t need or deserve any mire time freeloading off you or abusing you.

This is not an argument you are having with him. Its not a court of law. You don’t like or trust him. He is an abusive piece if shit. So “its over, get out” is sufficient.

you don’t need to prove your point, or be fair, or make it easy, or be reasonable. He is an absolute shit of a human: selfish, greedy, violent, careless, mean, weak, stingy—he has no redeeming characteristics and he deserves nothing but the trash heap.

Start realizing that if you don’t kick him to the kerb and start fighting for your life your children will grow up with his horrible example. The girls will choose abusers like dear old dad and the boys will ally with him and abuse you in turn.

Wake up and stop fantasizing about bike trips if only you knew how to bicycle. He will never care for you. He doesn’t know how.

Runnerinthenight · 01/09/2024 21:35

Fuck him out straight away. Why should you have to look at his hateful face in your home for another day. He's a total waste of space, an absolute travesty of a man, and you will be happier without him. Take care x

Zone2NorthLondon · 01/09/2024 21:35

I see you’re not legally married. Religious ceremony but no formal marriage , that will be relevant in how you proceed
Was his DV course court imposed? Is he under any monitoring or conditions?

carly2803 · 01/09/2024 21:37

let him go - divorce him - then raise your standards to what is a proper relationship

being a single mum is better than living like this! kids will be happier too than watching their mum be abused mentally and physically

laveritable · 01/09/2024 21:38

Please forget him, apart from getting as much money as possible for kids!

JLou08 · 01/09/2024 21:38

End the relationship, you deserve so much better. You're worried about being a single mum but it sounds like you're a single mum anyway and he will be off as soon as it suits him so why wait around. You could spend the rest of your life in this shit situation or you could end it and potentially meet a good man to spend your life with or be content being alone.
If the house is rented maybe it would be easier for you to look for another home for just you and the children and leave. He sounds like the type who wouldn't just leave when told to and you sound too worn down for the fight right now.

Backtoanoldname · 01/09/2024 21:39

To all intents and purposes you've been living without him.

DV, little/no money, off on trips for 5 months etc etc.

He needs to go - he may have been appealing once - but experience tells you something different now.

Before he goes make sure he can't spend your money anymore - credit cards, bank access, cash, your car. Change passwords on emails, amazon etc etc.

Then change the locks - even if he leaves the keys.

All the best.

JennyForeigner · 01/09/2024 21:39

Fuck him right off, that man is destined for one miserable lonely old age.

wrongthinker · 01/09/2024 21:40

Two months? No way. Tell him he needs to leave immediately. He can go to his parents. Maybe you will need someone with you to ensure he goes peacefully. Change the locks. Inform his probation officer if he has one. Definitely don't let him stay for months, that's not fair on you. He's literally just using you as someone to pay his bills. Don't let him do that.

Colinfromaccounts · 01/09/2024 21:41

This guy hits you, doesn’t contribute anything financially and wants to fuck other women? Yeah try and hang on to him if you can, sounds like a keeper.

RickyGervaislovesdogs · 01/09/2024 21:44

“we have only had a religious not legally binding marriage)”

Thank goodness for that. I imagine it hurts, you love him you’ve stayed with him but please let him go. He’s garbage.

BettyBardMacDonald · 01/09/2024 21:45

wrongthinker · 01/09/2024 21:40

Two months? No way. Tell him he needs to leave immediately. He can go to his parents. Maybe you will need someone with you to ensure he goes peacefully. Change the locks. Inform his probation officer if he has one. Definitely don't let him stay for months, that's not fair on you. He's literally just using you as someone to pay his bills. Don't let him do that.

This. What the fuck? Just kick him out.

Zone2NorthLondon · 01/09/2024 21:45

If he is on mortgage or rental you cannot arbitrarily lock him out his own house. You need a court injunction to prevent him accessing the property to legitimately prevent him accessing the property . Domestic Violence Protection Orders (DVPO) prevent him coming to property for 28day. Enough tome to get advice and if need be instruct a solicitor