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Husband of 4 years wants to leave as soon as he can for adventure

159 replies

Treelover4 · 01/09/2024 20:01

We have been together for nearly 5 years. We have two children and last night, he told me he wants to leave as soon as he’s able to. I can “keep the kids” apparently even though he was the one that wanted lots of kids and I would rather have had a couple of years just the two of us. Anyway, in the past there has been verbal and physical abuse and he’s recently been on a DV course so I thought we were getting somewhere.

I am currently the breadwinner and he does contribute where he can but I pay the rent and 90% of childcare and utility bills. It feels the “soon as he can” stems from the fact that he’s really just using this place as a free rental. He is starting a new job soon so rather than contribute to our family’s household expenses, he will probably just put it towards moving out.

I did confront him this morning about just being co-parenting housemates and he agreed. Throughout our relationship, I’ve caught him messaging other women and he often talks about polygamy. Looking back, I have never felt enough and this morning he confirmed that and said I never have been and never will be.

He claims that he loves me but doesn’t agree with my behaviour, my “black and white thinking” and that I’m not very adventurous because I wouldn’t “exactly go on a cycling camping trip” (I would love to go on a family camping holiday when the kids are a bit bigger). Admittedly, I don’t know how to ride a bike but he knew this when we got together, with 2 kids in 3 years, a lockdown, him going abroad for several months, my mum’s death, an abusive relationship for at least 2 of these nearly 5 years and me being the default parent- I don’t know when he expected me to learn to ride a bike. He went onto say we are too different and he’s not sure what we are doing here together. I asked if he wanted a divorce (we have only had a religious not legally binding marriage) and he said yes.

In the last year, he went abroad on a solo trip for about 4–5 months whilst I held the fort by looking after the kids solo and working full time.

I know I can’t force someone to love me and I also don’t want the kids growing up in a miserable home but I myself am from a family with a single mum and I know how tough it can be. Additionally, I know he wants to move abroad so shared custody would become difficult and I don’t want to really abandon my life here just so he can live out the dreams he has for himself and the kids. He’s said “you can come if you want”, I know he’d rather I not be there.

My question is what do I do? Do I basically just continue to let him stay because I want to keep the peace and normality for our kids? Do I demand that he starts paying his way a bit more or threaten that he leaves? Anyone had an experience similar to this?

Many thanks in advance.

OP posts:
Getonwitit · 01/09/2024 20:57

He doesn't get to make that decision, you do. Put him out tonight.

Delphiniumandlupins · 01/09/2024 20:59

Do you really think he is offering "peace and normality"? I think you and your DC deserve much better. Decide what is best for you and work towards that. You owe him nothing, neither time nor money.

DoYouReally · 01/09/2024 21:02

I think you are looking at this all wrong.

You aren't legally married so he can'tcome after your income and he contributes absolutely nothing positive to your life.

He's an abuser and will never change.

Stop thinking you aren't enough. He isn't enough. You aren't the problem, he is.

Hopefully with him gone, you will begin to recognise, the problem was always him s
and never you and that your self esteem will improve without him there to constantly erode it.

tattygrl · 01/09/2024 21:03

I'd say this is the trash taking itself out.

arethereanyleftatall · 01/09/2024 21:07

Oh just realised you don't even have to divorce him. Great. Pack his bags op. Literally today.

Do not allow him to steal another penny of yours and your dcs money.

He is contributing NOTHING pleasant to your lives at all. Nothing. He uses more finances than he gives, gives you no pleasure emotionally, and your dc will only 'love' him in the sane way that all dc 'love' their parents, regardless of the abuse. They will actually hate him for how he treats you but they just don't know that yet.

MtClair · 01/09/2024 21:07

There is one thing you DO NOT DO, and it’s moving abroad with him.

I get that being a single parent is daunting. But then that’s basically what you’ve been anyway.
Br8mg abroad with an abuser will make your life 10 thousands time harder. You won’t be able to leave if he doesn’t agree to it. He will probably get abusive again etc etc….
Please please don’t even think about it.

Witchbitch20 · 01/09/2024 21:08

Help him pack, and wave him off from the station.

You are already a single parent - financially and emotionally.

You deserve so much better.

Treelover4 · 01/09/2024 21:08

Wow thank you so much for all your responses and support. I’ve spent most of today hiding away from him and the kids and crying at any opportunity. I don’t have any immediate family and a couple of friends knew about the DV but I’ve not told anyone in my life about this latest drama.

Anyway, it was Thailand that he went to last year as someone guessed correctly 😂. I’ve not put his name on the rental lease and even things like the car I own outright.

We aren’t legally married so wouldn’t have any financial implications. There haven’t been any DV incidents for a year and he is a good dad or at least his intentions towards them are better than they are to me.

I am definitely not on eggshells as much as I was a couple of years ago.

I have read through and been reflecting today and I think I will tell him to leave and give him about 2 months as is that the standard landlord notice? That will also then take us up to around a year since he went abroad and therefore a year since I’ve had to fork out more for childcare, bills etc.

I am aware that he doesn’t love me especially since the worst of the DV incidents which is when something internally in me switched, I stood up for myself and made it clear that the physical and verbal abuse was enough. I’ve kept my distance and guarded myself as best I can whilst still playing “happy” families for the kids but they’re growing and it’s harder to keep up the farce. As several of you have said, I’m not going to be a doormat and teach my children any longer that staying in unhealthy relationships is OK because it causes a strain between me and the kids when he mocks me and they copy him or even him just being around is such a strain at times with his negative outlook. Whilst he was away earlier this year, he said “the thought of coming back to you makes me suicidal” so the fact he did was probably because his £ ran out. He may end up having to live with his parents but there was DV involved in their marriage too and they’re responsible for bringing up this sorry mess who’s wasted enough of my life already.

OP posts:
junebirthdaygirl · 01/09/2024 21:10

Take the power into your own hands and tell him..on your bike and off you go. He will be shocked as he is full of bullshit talking about his dam adventures. You will manage much better on your own as you are doing everything anyway. I want to see the shock on his stupid face when you tell him to go. You will have support here. Come back and tell us all and keep posting. It's the start of a new life and you will feel so much stronger as he is not writing the story..you are.

TheKingCobraIsNotStrictlySpeakingACobra · 01/09/2024 21:11

Hmmm sounds to me that he’s been on a domestic abuse course recently so has decided since he can no longer hurt you with his fists, or display outright open bursts of anger, so he’ll hurt you with his words instead.

That or the course has caused a massive uncomfortable shift inside himself, but he can’t admit he’s been an utterly abusive, vile disgusting human so he’s doubling down on making you the source of all his woe.

TBH he doesn’t sound like a catch either way, in any way shape or form. What the fuck do you need to be with him for? Sounds like a complete twat, take your power back and tell him you’ve had enough, bin him off. Let him dangle off a hook for a bit.

Luio · 01/09/2024 21:13

It doesn’t sound like he has anything going for him and you sound like you have a lot going for you. Once you leave him you will realise this. I wouldn’t waste any more of your precious life with him.

Livelovebehappy · 01/09/2024 21:13

He honestly sounds horrendous. Does he have any redeeming features because I just can’t see any from your post? You need to set your bar much higher OP, and know your worth. Just read your post back as if it was a friend writing it. You’d be horrified wouldn’t you that someone was actually allowing themselves to be treated so, so badly.

outdamnedspots · 01/09/2024 21:15

TwinklyRoseTurtle · 01/09/2024 20:05

No- you tell him you’re ending the relationship, getting a divorce and that also includes any financial support- so he needs to find somewhere in the next few days to live… probably feels sad now but you’ve done everything yourself plus the hardship of wondering if someone loves you…. This is the start of your life OP xx

This!

And you've only had a religious marriage, not a legally binding one? Excellent. He can't come after any of your money.

Free yourself of this cocklodger, OP. You'll be much happier.

arethereanyleftatall · 01/09/2024 21:15

Don't give him two months op.

He deserves nothing. He is vile scum. He is also very possibly riddled with STDs.

He is using you for money. That's it. He said it and it's obvious anyway through his actions.

He does not deserve another penny of your money that you need for your dc.

He has his parents to go to. He can go tomorrow.

Treelover4 · 01/09/2024 21:16

Weeteeny · 01/09/2024 20:14

Let him go off on his adventure and shut the door behind him.
You say DV has been involved which should not be the "normality" for you and your children.

He is no support to you in any way, emotionally physically or financially.
I have been through similar in the sense of having a womanising abusive husband and constant walking on eggshells and low self worth. I would have walked earlier if not for the desire to keep the family together and maintain a "happy" home for the children . Well guess what, it wasn't a happy home and I finally realised we needed out. I have never looked back and I urge you to do the same.
Everything you describe is a terrible environment for you and your children and I feel for you as I remember how you must feel, turmoil and desire to keep the peace whilst not realising that life will be 100% better without this excuse of a man.
What does he actually bring to the household ? His actions show no love care kindness or respect, he cares only for his own needs not yours.
Please tell him to go, far less "let" him.

I’m really happy to hear that you and your DCs got rid and are doing so well. It’s very encouraging.

OP posts:
Changeychang · 01/09/2024 21:17

Offer to pack his bags for him OP, good riddance!

LongDistanceClara44 · 01/09/2024 21:18

He's paying no rent, how can you be his landlord. Give him zero notice

zeibesaffron · 01/09/2024 21:19

You take control say I am ending this relationship now, you have xxx days to leave. You start divorce proceedings and take him to Child Support so he can pay maintenance.

You absolutely need to tell him to fuck off and grow up! You can so this, you are better than this total dick of a man! You and the kids deserve better so get brave, get everything sorted, block him from all bank accounts etc and kick him out.

You need to control this on your terms!

NotbloodyGivingupYet · 01/09/2024 21:20

I wouldn't bother giving him 2 months notice. Two days would be generous.
And if he turns nasty, make sure you've got a friend round to make sure he leaves. Or call the police, he has no right to stay there once you've given him notice.
Actually, do you think he might turn nasty when you tell him to leave? If so, you might want to get a friend round before you tell him to leave. Then get him straight out the door. You owe him nothing.

gamerchick · 01/09/2024 21:20

Why 2 months? You're not his landlord. He's not giving you any money.

Tell him he has to leave this week. Where he goes is not your problem. You're letting him walk all over you man

Ineffable23 · 01/09/2024 21:22

Two months is a ridiculously generous amount of time and given his been previously abusive I wouldn't be giving him anywhere near that much time - after all, leaving a relationship is a dangerous time for women and I would expect more so with a history of domestic abuse.

He doesn't pay any bills so he's not even a lodger, he's a guest. That means he has zero rights to stay for any longer than you choose to keep him. Two weeks would be generous in the circumstances.

redtrain123 · 01/09/2024 21:22

TwinklyRoseTurtle · 01/09/2024 20:05

No- you tell him you’re ending the relationship, getting a divorce and that also includes any financial support- so he needs to find somewhere in the next few days to live… probably feels sad now but you’ve done everything yourself plus the hardship of wondering if someone loves you…. This is the start of your life OP xx

First post nails it.

Actually, you say yog’re not legally married (only religious). Get good b legal advice as to what yog’re entitled to.

Loseitlikelollo · 01/09/2024 21:25

2 months sound long. Once you’ve asked an abusive man to move out the risk of increase abuse rises. Also, lodgers only get 30 days notice.

In the last year, he went abroad on a solo trip for about 4–5 months whilst I held the fort by looking after the kids solo and working full time.

I know I can’t force someone to love me and I also don’t want the kids growing up in a miserable home but I myself am from a family with a single mum and I know how tough it can be.

You sound as if you’re a single mum anyway, OP.

avignon1234 · 01/09/2024 21:27

Weeteeny · 01/09/2024 20:14

Let him go off on his adventure and shut the door behind him.
You say DV has been involved which should not be the "normality" for you and your children.

He is no support to you in any way, emotionally physically or financially.
I have been through similar in the sense of having a womanising abusive husband and constant walking on eggshells and low self worth. I would have walked earlier if not for the desire to keep the family together and maintain a "happy" home for the children . Well guess what, it wasn't a happy home and I finally realised we needed out. I have never looked back and I urge you to do the same.
Everything you describe is a terrible environment for you and your children and I feel for you as I remember how you must feel, turmoil and desire to keep the peace whilst not realising that life will be 100% better without this excuse of a man.
What does he actually bring to the household ? His actions show no love care kindness or respect, he cares only for his own needs not yours.
Please tell him to go, far less "let" him.

Could not agree more. Quietly get your ducks in a row first (get support, make sure no shared bank accounts etc.) and then, yeah, "let him go" to follow his dream. He does not love you the way he should. It is hard when you think about your kids, but you are not on a path to a happy stable family, and they will not thank you for putting up with it for them, or for you. Please find the strength to leave him. x

Nazzywish · 01/09/2024 21:27

You do none of the suggested in OP. You pack his bags and throw him out. You sort custody through courts and financial too. Your not doing your kids any favours here- in fact the exact opposite when they are old enough to see how mummy is treated- do you want that for your daughter? Leave. Divorce. Stop giving him the dictating rights and lead for once.

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