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My narc ex is trying to make me jealous

73 replies

EvieAdams1 · 31/08/2024 23:14

I divorced my child’s dad four years ago after being married for 15 years. He's an insidious covert narcissist who presents himself as the nice guy. He was very envious of my success, which I achieved through hard work, but would secretly try to sabotage me while putting on a fake smile of being happy for me. He now has a new girlfriend, but he’s been using covert tactics to get my attention and try to make me jealous. I ignore it all, of course, as I have zero interest in his life.
I’ve blocked him on all forms of communication, but I didn’t realize I still had him on Instagram until recently when I started being more active on it. He had been watching all my stories until he must have realized that I could see him doing so. He also changes his WhatsApp profile picture to one of him and his girlfriend, then messages me something unnecessary about our child—clearly just so I’ll see it. She doesn’t realize he’s using her for this.
I keep communication with him to a minimum due to previous stalking incidents. I really don’t want to meet his new girlfriend, and I’m sure he’ll use this as a way to try to get to me. I’m sure she’s really nice, as that’s the type of person he targets, and my kid has said she is, but he’s likely told her that I’m the crazy one like he did me about his previous ex. She won’t know that my minimal contact is due to his stalking and coercive control, and that he was still stalking my social media account recently.
Can I get away with just not meeting her? How would you handle this? I was hoping that when he found someone new, I’d be left alone, but now he wants my attention more than ever. It’s so covert that, from the outside looking in, you wouldn’t notice what he’s doing.
I can't wait until I child becomes an adult so I have deal with this nonsense less.

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anareen · 31/08/2024 23:45

You are oddly putting lots of thought into this.

It sounds like you are very interested in his life.

None of your post is about him making co parenting difficult. It's about your hang up on him and what is going on in his life.

If he is terrible the new girlfriend will find out for herself in time. I doubt she is thinking anything about your " minimal contact".

Your instagram narrative is odd. Block him like you stated you have on other platforms if you are that bothered.

I really don't understand why you feel so strongly about not meeting her. If you have "zero interest in his life" it doesn't make sense that meeting her is such a big deal. Was meeting her even discussed or are you just hyper-fixating on that because he is with someone new.

DC is going to see how you act towards dad being in a new relationship. What do you want DC interpretation to be?

Ubugly · 31/08/2024 23:48

Honestly kill him with kindness and openess! Ignore everything else and he will soon get bored!

AuntieEstablishment · 01/09/2024 00:02

Why do you think he's doing all this- putting insta stories and coupley Whatsapp profile pics- for you specifically? Could it not be that he's just moving on?
I don't doubt that he's an arsehole, but I do wonder if you're still in the unhealthy dynamic of the relationship and are therefore thinking about him a little too much.

Edingril · 01/09/2024 00:04

You seem intense about someone you don't care about

EvieAdams1 · 01/09/2024 00:07

Me thinking mumsnet was filled with supportive women. LOL

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Grendell · 01/09/2024 00:10

He's probably done a smear campaign to her about you. Meeting her and/or acting a certain way around her to try and prove something is pointless, so why bother?

Go to neutral, don't seek out, don't waste your energy giving him any thought.

MonsteraMama · 01/09/2024 00:15

Is there an expectation that you meet her? I don't really think it's necessary, but if you do have to interact with her just stay neutral and pleasant. If he really is using her as a weapon against you then a bland non-reaction will make that quite boring for him quite quickly. If he's not, is genuinely just moving on, and your suspicions are just a hangover from being in a relationship with a narc, then a bland non-reaction is still the best thing you can do to keep things as neutral as they can be.

EvieAdams1 · 01/09/2024 00:18

anareen · 31/08/2024 23:45

You are oddly putting lots of thought into this.

It sounds like you are very interested in his life.

None of your post is about him making co parenting difficult. It's about your hang up on him and what is going on in his life.

If he is terrible the new girlfriend will find out for herself in time. I doubt she is thinking anything about your " minimal contact".

Your instagram narrative is odd. Block him like you stated you have on other platforms if you are that bothered.

I really don't understand why you feel so strongly about not meeting her. If you have "zero interest in his life" it doesn't make sense that meeting her is such a big deal. Was meeting her even discussed or are you just hyper-fixating on that because he is with someone new.

DC is going to see how you act towards dad being in a new relationship. What do you want DC interpretation to be?

Your response is unnecessarily and strangely aggressive and lacks comprehension.

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JulianFawcettMP · 01/09/2024 00:20

So it's just replies that agree with you they you want?

MadeleineLucyMaxwell · 01/09/2024 00:25

People don't agree with you so they're twats ok.

MadeleineLucyMaxwell · 01/09/2024 00:28

He now has a new girlfriend, but he’s been using covert tactics to get my attention and try to make me jealous. I ignore it all, of course, as I have zero interest in his life.

You blocked him on WhatsApp but he messages you on WhatsApp.

Can I get away with just not meeting her?

You don't have to meet her at all.

Can't believe he wants your attention so much he messages about his child. So narcissistic.

foghead · 01/09/2024 00:31

I don't know why you're getting these replies. Must be the late hour.
Op was married to him for 15 yrs so I'm sure she has her instincts and gut feelings about how he conducts himself.

You don't need to meet his gf if you don't want to. Who says you do?
Carry on with the minimal contact, focus on your relationship with your dc. Keep that as strong as you can because those kind of men can try to turn dc against their mother.

imjustamom · 01/09/2024 00:33

your the main character 🤣 thinking to deep about it, looks like that's what you want it to be. probably he doesn't care but your thinking to much of it, probably you are jealous and can't admit it to yourself. if you didn't care about his life as you say you would just ignore all of it n move on without overthinking it

XChrome · 01/09/2024 00:55

Why would you have to meet her? If they ever marry, since she would become stepmother to your children, you may want to meet her to find out what kind of person she is. For now? Fuck that. He's trying to triangulate. That tells you he's not getting enough excitement in his relationship with her, which would be because narcs can never get enough excitement. Don't entertain any entreaties to meet his girlfriend. Grey rock the shit out of that. "No thank you." Full stop. Don't explain and don't discuss. Then block him from IG and Whatsapp.

Jom222 · 01/09/2024 01:00

I’d play the game right along with him. If you do ever meet her, be warm and friendly and be sure to tell him how great girlfriend is, so pretty and wow what a personality! You’ve found a keeper, I’m happy for you. With sincerity (as much as you can muster)

THAT will get to him more than anything else you could do. Let him think he’s won the game and he might just let his efforts to mess with you taper off. You already know after this many years not to ever let him see he’s bothering you, but narcissists can sense when they’ve gotten under someone’s skin esp someone they were together with for over a decade. So my advice is to fake it and hope he finds a new hobby/victim.

And every birthday as you light the candles on your childs bday cake say a silent thanks thats its one less year you’ll have to be cordial to her father.

TheBottomsOfMyTrousersAreRolled · 01/09/2024 01:04

get him off your insta.
tell him to communicate through email only.
why would you think he wants you to meet the girlfriend?

NeedToAskPlease · 01/09/2024 01:13

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Completely unnecessary OP. @Edingril didn't deserve that response.

NeedToAskPlease · 01/09/2024 01:18

EvieAdams1 · 01/09/2024 00:18

Your response is unnecessarily and strangely aggressive and lacks comprehension.

I understood @anareen post perfectly fine and didn't interpret any aggression in it.

@EvieAdams1 you're not coming across at all well due to your defensive replies.

Nastyaa · 01/09/2024 01:22

Some of these comments are harsh as fuck. I'm pretty sure someone who was married to such an insidious bastard for 15 years will know the intentions behind his actions inside out. The problem with this type of behaviour is it's so calculated & under the radar that it makes the victim sound crazy when vocalising their own thoughts, which has been proven on this thread tonight.

Unless you have experienced this type of person to the extent the OP has then you have absolutely no idea what you are talking about. There's nothing worse than not being believed & being made to feel like the crazy & obsessive one.

So what if the OP does have some kind of attachment still there? she was with him for a very long time & has children with him.
He fucked with her head for such a long period of time that of course she is going to question his motive behind every action. It's a defence mechanism from learned behaviour due to a prolonged cycle of abuse.

Ruffpuff · 01/09/2024 01:42

Oh Christ. Seriously, don’t comment if you have no idea what it’s like to have to co-parent with a narc abusive/coercive ex who’s harassed you post break-up.

Op, I understand. I probably wouldn’t have if I hadn’t gone through it all with my ex. It’s nerve racking when they find a new way to try and toy with you- even if you don’t care in the slightest what it’s about, the fact they’re trying is anxiety inducing because you never know how far they’re going to take it.

Keep calm and collected. As you’ve said, never rise to it, never give satisfaction. Only meet the new gf on your terms and if you think it’s in the best interest of your dc. Also, ignoring irrelevant messages or requests takes away their power. Only respond to reasonable messages.

HauntedbyMagpies · 01/09/2024 01:47

What makes you think he's trying to make you jealous? What a weird conclusion to come to about someone you claim not to have feelings for 🤔 You only mention that he's viewed your IG stories....? That's not stalking or trying to make you jealous?!

Ruffpuff · 01/09/2024 01:49

@NeedToAskPlease

@Edingril 100% deserved that response for their fundamental brain shart of a comment.

A victim of prior abuse seems intense about the person who abused them?

Seriously. If you’re not going to engage any thought into a comment then just stay off the thread.

SilverAndblue · 01/09/2024 02:18

Anyone who's known a narc knows that your ex is triangulating you and that to some degree you are trauma bonded.

Block him on Instagram. Make sure he can't see anything you post. It will drive him insane.

MayaPinion · 01/09/2024 02:44

He likely just flicks through the insta stories like everyone else. Just block him if you don’t want him to see them. You split up 4 years ago. You don’t have to meet the girlfriend. You don’t have to react to the photo, and it’s perfectly normal to have a profile pic with a partner - many people do it. You really don’t need to give this any more head space.