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My sister is an ice queen

72 replies

Thyra123 · 19/08/2024 11:58

My sister is six years younger than myself. We’ve always had a difficult relationship mainly due to our parents not being supportive of us getting along as their own marriage fell apart and they basically commandeered us into taking sides.

I was engaged to a man several years ago who my sister got very close to. She was always staying at our house, we used to cook for her, she’d always be dancing with him at family events and texting him at all hours. He said he felt sorry for her because she was lonely and didn’t have much of a life of her own, but later on (after we split) my family admitted he had told her ‘I’ve picked the wrong sister.’ I think she enjoyed the attention.

We split up, it was acrimonious, and my sister lied to me on his behalf and pretended she didn’t know where he was when he left our home to have a break from the relationship.

Me and my sister managed to sort of patch things up after the break up, which mainly meant never speaking about him or addressing anything about it but just brushing it all under the carpet. Being the older sister I actually apologised to her for putting her in an awkward situation and she was happy to play the victim and said he’d manipulated her. Years later I found out perhaps she did have feelings for him at the time but I didn’t want to cause a fuss after we split, especially because I didn’t want my parents to get upset. So I’ve gritted my teeth and never said anything.

Shes now engaged to a lovely man and I’ve been single for many years, looking after my teenage son who has debilitating OCD.

Several times I’ve asked for her help with things like borrowing her car when I’ve really needed support, or helping me look after my elderly dog, to which her fiancé is happy to do, but my sister will say no, but for some seemingly ‘reasonable’ reason.

She never asks how I am or how my son is doing. She tells family she thinks I am exaggerating the extent of my son’s difficulties. This is despite a psychiatrists evaluation and diagnosis. I recently asked if I could pop the dog round, as my son was having a mental health crisis and I needed her to look after my dog, but she refused and then never asked about my son.

I have had enough of being humiliating by asking her about herself and her life and never getting anything back and have stopped asking for her support as she clearly can’t/won’t . I felt as though I supported her a lot when she needed it (although she probably used to stay at my house a lot to be near my ex) but she’s never there for me when I need it. She’s such an ice queen and absolutely looks down her nose at me for being a single parent. She was jealous of me when we were younger, but now she seems like I’m not good enough to associate with her. She certainly wouldn’t ask me to be a part of her wedding day as a bridesmaid or anything like that.

It hurts me that she gives one word replies to messages and doesn’t seem to care about her nephew. She asked about him in the past but when I admitted things are really difficult for him she just stopped replying, and when I asked her why after a few weeks of silence, she admitted she couldn’t cope with the ‘drama’ of what my son goes through.

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crostini · 19/08/2024 12:05

She sounds awful. I'd just accept that she's not a nice person and move on.

bloodyeffinnora · 19/08/2024 12:31

she can't deal with the drama relating to your son as it's not all about her, she sounds like a very selfish person, if I were you I would have nothing to do with her, I wouldn't ask her for anything or let her know anything about your life. you don't need a person like this making you feel shit, go as low contact as you can.

Arielsmummy · 24/08/2024 06:40

She's a very self centred person who clearly doesn't value your relationship. I wouldn't cause an argument but I would remove myself from that situation

BlastedPimples · 24/08/2024 06:51

How old was she when that inappropriate relationship with your ex was going on?

It sounds like you need to knock this on this head and fade entirely from her life. She sounds unpleasant. And not at all nice to you.

Spare yourself the hurt and just start by not ever texting or asking for favours. Be detached but always polite.

Sfxde24 · 24/08/2024 06:56

Yes. How old was she then and how old is she now?
She does sound unsupportive which is something that can change as people mature and settle. Difficult to say how unreasonable she is without more context. She may be nervous of being relied on too much if you’re broke, unemployed, mentally unwell son, old dog.

Royalshyness · 24/08/2024 07:02

I would quietly slowly distance myself from her. Agree with being polite and surface level niceness. But never ask her for anything. She’s spiteful to try and win your man over all those years ago. She’s mean to not want to help.

DeathpunchDan · 24/08/2024 07:03

I, too, would let things with her drift a bit and see if she makes any effort to stay in touch. If she asks why, just tell her you don't like the drama!
She sounds very self centred and oblivious to the feelings of others and probably loves that being cold towards you and your son still makes her the centre of attention as she carries on living rent-free in your head for however long afterwards.

strawberryshortcakescat · 24/08/2024 07:07

I agree with previous posters, don't contact her anymore. In fact I would remove her from my contacts (write her number down and keep it somewhere just in case).
I would also mute her on social media if you follow her. Just so you don't see her.

Her behaviour towards your ex partner was inappropriate, as was his. I would have stopped talking to her then.

cupcaske123 · 24/08/2024 07:12

I'm wondering about your boundaries in all this. Why you stood by while your sister and boyfriend developed a relationship. Why you're worried about how your parents might feel. I don't understand why, when you know what your sister is like you're still expecting her to show concern or do you favours.

I would lower your expectations as it's unlikely she'll change. Stop asking for favours and stop expecting her to care. I wouldn't have got over her dalliance with your boyfriend, it was cruel and selfish.

Elcad · 24/08/2024 07:19

She doesn't seem like a nice person. I would stop contacting her, she doesn't bring anything good in your life does she? I think you should learn to detach from her and not give her any head space. She's not worth it.

MyLimeGuide · 24/08/2024 07:27

Its a bitter pill to swallow that your siblings aren't nice people, I go through similar things with my sisters. Be the better person, don't change being nice you can't help it :-)

AgnesX · 24/08/2024 07:58

It sounds like you've tried for a good while. It's now time to cut your losses. It takes two to make a relationship and she's not making any effort at all.

Your parents have a lot to answer for.

XGarden · 24/08/2024 08:05

It took a lot of time. But I eventually realised my brother did not have my best interests at heart.

He had a tough childhood but so did I. He's since taken advantage in his 20s, 30s and 40s.
He wouldn't help in an emergency, he wouldn't help for fun. My mum fills my head with 'but it's family' 'unconditional love' but he doesn't and never had had my back.

I concentrate on my own family and friends. I'm low contact, I match his energy. I'll never make an effort now like I would 20 years ago. That is his loss but I never had any gain in support. I don't regret the years putting more effort on, glad I tried but a healthy boundary and attitude is the sensible way to move forward.

Likewhatever · 24/08/2024 08:14

At the moment I don’t think she wants a close relationship with you and is keeping you at bay. Could she be concerned that as a single woman who seems to get on with her fiancé you might be a threat? She knows herself how that goes.

She may be more supportive when she has some tricky life experiences under her belt. At that point it’ll be up to you to decide whether you want a closer relationship with her.

I could have misread your OP but you do seem to be asking a lot of favours from someone you don’t get on with. I hope you have other, kinder support mechanisms to help you deal with your son 💐

DoIWantTo · 24/08/2024 08:15

She sounds a lot like my sister, cut her off. Your life would be so much better. I’ll be doing the same just as soon as certain hurdles are crossed!

Luddite26 · 24/08/2024 08:28

Good grief she sounds vile.
Why are you bothering with her.
She isn't going to help you with anything so stop asking.
Hold your head up and sail your own boat
Some people are awful about mental health issues you know where you stand with it so stop trying to get her to care she doesn't.

Sheeplesss · 24/08/2024 08:32

She's vile and your parents no better.
Stop making any effort at all.
She isn't worth it.
Wishing you well.

Allie47 · 24/08/2024 09:23

Why do you keep her in your life? She sounds awful, you don't have to maintain a relationship because you're sister's, cut her out 💐

GingerPirate · 24/08/2024 09:25

Arielsmummy · 24/08/2024 06:40

She's a very self centred person who clearly doesn't value your relationship. I wouldn't cause an argument but I would remove myself from that situation

This.
However, it's her choice as an adult after all, what she wants to deal with and how to live her life.

Weemermaid · 24/08/2024 09:29

She sounds awful and very self centred. Unfortunately she's not likely to change. Her behaviour with regards to your ex is appalling. Can you put your energy into forming friendships with people who will support you and value you?

WhereIsBebèsChambre · 24/08/2024 09:29

Sfxde24 · 24/08/2024 06:56

Yes. How old was she then and how old is she now?
She does sound unsupportive which is something that can change as people mature and settle. Difficult to say how unreasonable she is without more context. She may be nervous of being relied on too much if you’re broke, unemployed, mentally unwell son, old dog.

Sorry but this, what ways are you in contact with her fiancé to know he's OK with helping out? Could she be taking umbrage with this given the fallout from her being in contact with your ex?

Dinkydo12 · 24/08/2024 09:40

Stop letting her dictate rhe rules. 1 block all contact 2 take care of you and your son. 3 enjoy your life without her selfish drama.

Dubuem · 24/08/2024 09:52

Only getting one side of the story here, but if she is that bad why set yourself up for continued disappointment? Just stop contact now.

Thyra123 · 24/08/2024 09:56

cupcaske123 · 24/08/2024 07:12

I'm wondering about your boundaries in all this. Why you stood by while your sister and boyfriend developed a relationship. Why you're worried about how your parents might feel. I don't understand why, when you know what your sister is like you're still expecting her to show concern or do you favours.

I would lower your expectations as it's unlikely she'll change. Stop asking for favours and stop expecting her to care. I wouldn't have got over her dalliance with your boyfriend, it was cruel and selfish.

Sadly I was in a very abusive relationship prior to this one and my boundaries weren’t great when I met this new guy who was like a knight in shining armour. He actually convinced all my family that I was just being paranoid because of what happened to me in my past and this allowed him to get away with a lot more because even my family said ‘stop comparing him to the last guy just because you’ve been hurt before, don’t punish this new guy.’ They all persuaded me that he was treating my sister like this because he was so welcoming and wanted us all to be ‘family.’

For context, I was 31-35 during this period and she was 25-28 years old at the time.

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Thyra123 · 24/08/2024 09:57

WhereIsBebèsChambre · 24/08/2024 09:29

Sorry but this, what ways are you in contact with her fiancé to know he's OK with helping out? Could she be taking umbrage with this given the fallout from her being in contact with your ex?

Funnily enough I have no direct contact with him other than when I see them in person, he’s lovely and always agrees to my face that they’re happy to help etc. then later I get a text from her saying they can’t help.

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