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BF and ASD child - I feel torn

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SallyGetYourGun · 21/07/2024 16:39

I’m 44F with an autistic 12 year daughter. It’s really hard and she’s been self harming but thankfully that seems to have stopped/is under control. She sees a psychologist. My boyfriend of 6 years doesn’t live with us. He has two children, 13M and 8F. We’ve been talking on/off about buying a house together in the future. His kids are not SEN, they’re loud and when they’re here, my daughter just retreats to her room. My daughter takes up so much of my time and energy. She doesn’t see her own father and she’s with me all day. She has no friends. She attends mainstream and the EHCP application is in process, ideally I’d like her to go to as ASD school, but that’s another post. She’s completely overwhelmed by mainstream and she hasn’t been able to attend since February. I work full time from home. It’s hard trying to educate her in the day and catch up on my work in the evening.

My daughter comes first and if she’s overwhelmed or overstimulated, we’ll leave whatever it is we’re doing. BF makes his disappointment known. He’ll audibly sigh and ‘deflate’ and sort of look away to show indifference and say “fine” in a petulant way in the moment. For example, we went to the beach on holiday, daughter was really struggling with the sensory overload and I said I’d take her back, no problem, he can stay with his kids. He sighs and says fine/OK. But clearly he felt hard done by as we didn’t have the perfect family day out. A bit later on he tells me he does understand and he sighs because he cares and is disappointed. But in that moment I don’t feel supported, I feel like it’s me and my daughter against the world and he’s not on the team. His kids eat with their mouths open and that’s horrible anyway but it’s a huge sensory trigger for my daughter, all the wet squelchy eating noises. I’ve asked time and time again for him to speak to his kids, I’ve asked his kids to please stop it. They don’t, so we end up leaving the dining table even in our own house. She has to wear noise cancelling headphones when they’re with us. He sighs when I bring it up. These are just little examples but they, plus more things, happen a lot. Post annoyance, when I’ve spoken to him, he just says he can’t control it in the moment, he doesn’t know he does it so how can he stop. I always speak to him when he comes across as being annoyed or disappointed and it bothers him that I pull him up on it but I can’t not say something as I’m not a walk over and no one gets to eye roll me at a situation that I can’t control. This is where alot of our tension is: I won’t let issues/being sighed at/eye rolled go, to him it’s not a big deal, and me bringing it up makes it a big deal. Can he ever understand having an ASD daughter with poor mental health issues unless he has one. He is a weekend ‘fun dad’ to his kids, none of the gritty day to day.

BF wants sex more than I do. I’m absolutely mentally and physically exhausted and I don’t know if it’s peri but I’ve had zero sex drive for a couple of years. He says he shows love through sex. He’s a very huggy and tactile person but my affection is spent on my daughter and I don’t have much left. I’d probably have maintenance sex once a month just to keep him ‘happy’ but then when he asks for it it gives me the ick and I think “why should I, you’d been eye rolling me all day”. He’ll walk up to me in the kitchen and just randomly hug me, no matter if I am busy. It just irritates me as he can see I am busy. Why is it that women feel like that have to take pills to improve their sex drive to please men, and not men take a pill to decrease theirs. Why is it not acceptable to just not want sex any more.

I feel like maintaining a relationship is like a pension for the future. I worry about it just being me and my daughter and something happening to me and she is left alone.

My daughter loves him like a father. I love him but I don’t know if that is because we’ve been together a while. But I constantly feel like I’m letting him down and I’m not a good enough partner and he needs more than someone who has no sex drive and he gets the scraps of my attention/energy. He’s around right now and I feel under pressure to sit with him and chat/watch tv but I’ve got lots to do, a daughter to see to (she’s having an autistic burnout) and I can’t split myself in two - which is the reasoning for the potential ‘buying a house together’; so he’s not a guest in this house and I can just crack on with my own stuff and not have to pause my day when he visits.

Do I stay with him for the father-like presence that he provides and one day, he might develop more of an outwardly-showing understanding of the situation, and I might develop a sex drive. Or just cut my losses and call it a day and enjoy no disappointed sighs, no pressure to have sex, and not feel like I’m torn in two having to give equal attention to my daughter and BF.

OP posts:
FuzzyStripes · 21/07/2024 16:42

I’d cut your losses.

Living with him is not going to work out whilst your daughter lives with you and she might not move out.

StormingNorman · 21/07/2024 16:47

He sounds awful. Cut your losses x

Ponderingwindow · 21/07/2024 16:51

As a person with autism who also has a child with autism, my initial reaction to your post is WTF is wrong with you?

taking a deep breath and being a bit more rational.

when my dd or I step out into the world, we have to put on a mask. We have to deal with a world built for NT people. We even have to deal with things like the sun shining brightly. It is utterly exhausting.

home is our sanctuary.

Everything here is set up to be ASD friendly. Her father who is not ASD lives here and he has adapted. Things like overhead lights only for necessary tasks and then turned off immediately.

this is the place we can relax. This is the place we don’t have to follow society’s ridiculous rules.

if we had other children, we would need to make additional compromises. We couldn’t run the household entirely on an ASD platform. I would still make sure that my dd and I got to relax though and not only by hiding in our rooms. It’s not healthy to be in fight or flight mode all the time.

Singleandproud · 21/07/2024 16:55

Cut your losses.
You'll free up a tonne of free time physically and mentally for yourself to pursue your own interests.

Being in a relationship incase something happens to you so there's someone for your DD isn't worth considering, you can't rely on anyone else for that unless they are paid service, s you need to look at what would need to happen for supported living when she's older.

Waveforme · 21/07/2024 16:56

Don't live with him. Prioritise your daughter.

Treesinthewind · 21/07/2024 16:57

I was in a relationship with a man who made it very clear he couldn't handle my son's neurodivergence. I tried desperately to keep everyone happy as I was so attached to the idea of us being a family (my son's father died in 2020) and I felt guilty for having introduced my ex too soon. He dumped me in October after a horrible summer of sighing and silent treatment and on-offing. Our lives are so much more peaceful without him around.

UpThereForThinkingDownThereForDancing · 21/07/2024 17:00

He won't change and is disrespectful about your DD.
Cut your losses.
Not easy of course given your feelings but this will only get worse if he moves in.
Not sustainable and your DD needs a safe home which you can't have with someone who doesn't behave graciously in the face of your difficulties.

jeaux90 · 21/07/2024 17:01

I'm a lone parent of DD15 with ASD and ADHD.

Your first point about school yes, mine is thriving in a small all girls school, it's the small class sizes etc is really helps

Relationship wise this isn't going to sound nice but I don't think this is going to work, I would cut my losses and finish it as you and your DD come first.

You really need him on board and he doesn't sound like he is, and your home turns into a place your DD struggles with when they are around.

If you want to continue the relationship I would pair it back, just you and him dating for a while. I found puberty and early teens particularly hard with DD and I didn't want that complicated by moving in with my partner until she is a bit older.

PeriIsKickingMyButt · 21/07/2024 17:01

I feel like maintaining a relationship is like a pension for the future. I worry about it just being me and my daughter and something happening to me and she is left alone

What?? But he's not her father and whether or not she loves him he doesn't feel that way about her and he's not going to step up and parent her if you die. Come on!! This is a terrible relationship and you don't really want to be in it. What are you doing??

Penguinsoprano · 21/07/2024 17:02

So follow the logic - stay with him in an unpleasant environment for you and your DD in case something happens to you so she will be… stuck with a man who refuses to make any accommodations for her disability and his kids who trigger her. Doesn’t sound that great.

OlderGlaswegianLivingInDevon · 21/07/2024 17:03

Oh for goodness sake - just ditch the boyfriend ! by the time I had read his 3rd sigh I had had enough, never mind his children's table manners.

Think how lovely and peaceful it will be for your daughter and you not to have these people constantly visiting...

Gladespade · 21/07/2024 17:08

I’m not sure why you’re torn. He sounds like an awful Disney dad type. His kids sound like they’re not being parented very well and he can’t be bothered. He’s also lying to you about his reaction. He is frustrated. It’s not out of concern for you.

GirlOverboard123 · 21/07/2024 17:26

I would cut your losses before he does. It doesn't sound like he's getting much out of this relationship. You don't speak about him with respect ('Disney dad') or affection ('pension for the future'). You don't like his children. You're at most willing to give him 'maintenance sex' once a month. He'd be moving from his own home to a home with a troubled 12 year old. I think it would probably be for the best for absolutely everyone in this situation if you end things now.

NewDogOwner · 21/07/2024 17:43

Don't take away your child's safe space by forcing her to live with him.

Celynfour · 21/07/2024 17:58

I have every empathy for you and your situation and appreciate that life needs careful navigation .
However , I felt that saying ‘pension for the
future ‘ was not something that suggests you feel any love towards him . He is also allowed to have some of his wishes and needs met in a relationship and you don’t seem to value him .
I really can’t see any benefits for either of you or any of your children to moving in together.
A wise poster above said the teenage years are tricky . It sounds like a safe haven is what you and your daughter need .

Pigeonqueen · 21/07/2024 18:14

He sounds awful. You don’t have the time or energy for this - I’m saying that as the Mum of a child with asd the same age who has similar needs. Fuck him and his obnoxious kids, you and your dd don’t need him and his sulky faces and sulks over sex. Honestly, you just don’t need any of this.

lollipoprainbow · 21/07/2024 18:15

I have an autistic 12yr old dd too and the thought of bringing a partner into the mix would worry me. We have a nice set up, I can accommodate to her needs without having to justify anything. I had a brief fling a couple of years ago and that was enough to make me realise it's not what I want.

Pigeonqueen · 21/07/2024 18:15

NewDogOwner · 21/07/2024 17:43

Don't take away your child's safe space by forcing her to live with him.

This.

If your dd is struggling at school, home is even more important too.

AttilaTheMeerkat · 21/07/2024 18:19

I would ditch this man with immediate effect. Send him a message saying that this is no longer working for you and you’re calling it a day.

He does not like your daughter and will never accept her. You have a choice re this man, she does not. Make better choices for you, and in turn she going forward. Your own boundaries here, already perhaps skewed by poor life experience and other poor relationships are being further got at by this man now.

How is her EHCP application coming along?. Have a read of IPSEA’s website as this could help you no end.

TheMostWonderfulThingAboutTiggers · 21/07/2024 18:22

You don't sound compatible op. Which is all you need to know really....

gardenmusic · 21/07/2024 18:42

I feel like maintaining a relationship is like a pension for the future. I worry about it just being me and my daughter and something happening to me and she is left alone.

Well, I don't think he is going to step up, disappointed as he is.

gingeristhenewblack43 · 21/07/2024 18:55

What is it about his sighing and impatience with your DD makes you think he will step up for her in the future if you die?

He is not going to care for your DD in the future. He barely tolerates her now when you are there to see his interactions and reactions. He's going to have nothing to do with her if you are ever out of the picture.

You need to put your DD and her needs first, and to do that you need to bin him and his kids off. They couldn't give a flying fuck about your DD.

Opentooffers · 21/07/2024 18:57

It's tough on both sides. I get the eyeroll is annoying to you, but also that yes, it must be disappointing to not be able to share days out and have events curtailed. He needs to get better at hiding his disappointment in the moment, but at least he's understanding about it afterwards.
I don't know that it's helpful your end to separate, but tbh, I'd think he has as much, if not more reason to reconsider being with you. If you actually think any man should be grateful to get a once a month maintenance shag, that is unrealistic, not going to please most men - or most women for that matter. Its not his fault that ongoing problems with your DD are having a large impact on your libido and on family time. Perhaps your life just isn't compatible with his, or most people's unfortunately.
Are there groups you can join for parents of ND children? The only people who get it and would tollerate it, are likely parents in the same situation.
You also come across as lacking in affection towards him, and quite practical about just having him around for company in your future, and even just as a person to look after your DD if you died ( how very organised of you), but that does not exude warmth. It looks like the only reasons you keep him around are in the hope it benefits your DD's future somehow, that is really off thinking. He might be better off without you if that's the case. Have you ever considered that you might have some ND yourself? These things are genetic after all. You don't like being hugged when things are on your mind it seems, and you begrudge spending time with him as your mind ticks over on other things you could be doing. How often do you see each other? Is he really impacting on your time that much?

Rainbowsponge · 21/07/2024 19:00

StormingNorman · 21/07/2024 16:47

He sounds awful. Cut your losses x

I don’t think he sounds awful.

If somebody tried to micro manage my kids by ordering them to eat in a certain way so as not to ‘trigger’ their child, I would tell them where to go

OP sounds controlled, frankly.

Rainbowsponge · 21/07/2024 19:04

Sorry but if the roles were reversed everyone would be taking the side of the boyfriend.

OP is micro managing his kids and expecting them to tip toe around hers. She barely tolerates her step kids but expects everyone to tolerate her DD who is much trickier.

She expects him to stick around despite the fact everything revolves around her daughter, and he seems to get nothing in return.

She seems to think zero sex is fine and he’s the unreasonable one for being affectionate or wanting intimacy at all.

She then admits that’s because she’s only with him because she wants somebody to potentially look after her kids in future.

The worst he’s done is some ‘sighing’

Sorry but I’m team boyfriend and I guarantee 80% of posters would be if the sexes were reversed