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My partner (m32) depression is affecting me (f32) mentally and I don’t know what to do anymore

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Megnogs · 14/07/2024 13:29

So little backstory - my partner has suffered with depression and PTSD ever since he left the military two years ago, basically they didn’t treat him very well and he ended up very depressed so he found a new job and left.

Flash forward to March this year and our beautiful baby girl was born - unfortunately it feels like his depression has worsened. I’m not an expert when it comes to this kind of thing because I have never suffered from depression myself, but it seems to come on in what I call ‘dark episodes’ so for example we will have a small argument or disagreement about a random thing, or he will snap and me and I will stand my ground and it will result in maybe 1-5 days of him going into a depressive state, he says this isn’t because he’s angry with me - it’s because he’s angry with himself for causing the argument in the first place.

He will barely talk to me during this and when he does it feels forced, this makes me feel extremely isolated and anxious in the house, he basically treats me like a roommate. He will also display signs of the ‘martyr complex’ and during this time he will basically go around looking for ways to be a martyr, example: he will walk around with our baby in his arms, does all the feeds, all the nappy changes, bath times, and when I try to do something he will say something like ‘I can do that, you can just relax, I need to be doing more because I’m being a shit dad’ even though he does considerably more chores around the house than myself. He won’t shower, sometimes won’t even eat and he says things like ‘sorry I stink but I’ve been looking after you all day’ to our baby or ‘I haven’t eaten but it’s my fault for not buying enough food’

He also becomes very destructive and careless during these periods. He used to throw things and break things deliberately (me and baby have never been in the room when he does it) but he was always careful to only break things that he has paid for. I gave him a big telling off for this and it seems to have calmed slightly but not completely. Just yesterday during an argument he broke our daughters nappy bin, I didn’t realise at the time until I found it in the bin smashed up, I know if I ask him about it that he will say he dropped it and it smashed or something but I saw him on our cctv throwing it at the car when he went to empty it and it smashed the bin lid. What upsets me most is that the bin was a gift from my baby shower, I doubt that even crossed his mind though.

He also has started to throw things in the bin that are perfectly fine. He threw our daughters bottle teats away (the next size up for when she was ready for them) he said he must have done it accidently when clearing out the kitchen but they were screwed onto her bottles so he’s obviously unscrewed them and thrown them away intentionally. He threw his perfectly healthy cactuses in the bin stating that ‘they didn’t look right in the kitchen so I just threw them away.’ Other things in the house will randomly vanish and I can only assume they’ve been thrown in the bin thoughtlessly during one of his bad days. Sometimes he will make a point of telling me he has thrown something away like he wants me to react and of course I do, because I just don’t understand how he could be so thoughtless, other times he won’t tell me and just say it he must have done it accidentally when I ask.

What’s bothering me most is the fact that these episodes seem to be triggered by me. He will say something in a rude way and because I call him out on it, this results in an argument which leads to the usual things that I described above. So it usually goes like this - I’ll give yesterdays argument as an example cos we’re currently in the middle of a ‘dark episode’:

I had a funny turn in the night - must have been a bit dehydrated- almost passed out during the night feed but pulled through and went to sleep. Woke up the next day feeling pretty shit - he asked me if I was okay now and I said yeah, not 100% though.
So later in the day when I’m having a rest on the sofa, he comes in from working outside and I’m talking quietly because baby is asleep and I’m not feeling too well - he assumes I’m mad at him for some reason. I go upstairs to get ready for going out and he feeds baby downstairs - only the tommy tippe machine is empty so he gets pissed off - the bottle has a bit of residue on it- he gets pissed off. Her formula tub needs refilling - by this point he sounds really pissed off so I go downstairs to see if I can help, he throws a bottle in the sink and says ‘can you make sure the bottles don’t have bubbles on before you put them in the machine’
I say ‘yeah but I didn’t actually clean that bottle, you did. I just took it from the sanitizer machine.’
This basically resulted in an argument about me apparently being ‘defensive’ all day and he said if I wasn’t feeling well just say that instead of ignoring him, I said that I did tell you I wasn’t feeling well. Later on I asked him if we could try and draw a line under it because I’d been looking forward to this day out and didnt want it to be spoiled by a silly argument - he gets even worse, suddenly he wasn’t in a bad mood but now he is because I suggested he was. This is seemingly when the nappy bin was broken - he must have thrown it outside on his way to emptying it.

I feel like I need to state that he’s not angry with me. He’s not throwing and breaking things because I’m not allowing myself to be controlled - I firmly believe that to be true. In his words he is frustrated because of his own actions- how he responds to things, how everything he does ‘turns to shit’ how he can’t just be a normal partner/dad etc. He is a very good dad and partner when he’s feeling good. He is supportive, caring and always cooks our dinner. He respects me 100% and I firmly believe he would never ever hurt me or our daughter. Sometimes I catch him swearing in frustration when our baby won’t stop crying and that does upset me, I really don’t know how you can swear at a baby when they are clearly upset about something but that’s just me.

I also should add that he’s recently started therapy - and that I probably should try being a little more patient and optimistic that change is coming but it’s really hard to see it that way when I feel the way that I do. I don’t want to break apart this family but every single time this happens I feel like I’m getting closer to having to leave him. What can I do?

OP posts:
icelolly12 · 15/07/2024 07:52

He doesn't take any responsibility and has victim mentality:
"they (military) didn’t treat him very well"

Resentful/angry towards your baby:
"he says things like ‘sorry I stink but I’ve been looking after you all day’ to our baby"

"Sometimes I catch him swearing in frustration when our baby won’t stop crying "

Anger issues:
the tommy tippe machine is empty so he gets pissed off - the bottle has a bit of residue on it- he gets pissed off.

we will have a small argument or disagreement about a random thing, or he will snap

Escalating into physical acts of violence:

He also becomes very destructive and careless during these periods. He used to throw things and break things deliberately

Manipulation
his response was ‘I don’t want to be on my own cos then I’ll just want to commit suicide’

OP get some therapy and help please. Look into abuse and DARVO.

lowflyingtitties · 15/07/2024 08:01

This is abuse, plain and simple. The whys are irrelevant really. This will escalate.
Look at just one example you gave of him unscrewing the bottles to throw the teats away. He stood and thought about doing it, then did it, then lied about it. It's quite chilling.
You haven't lived with him for long and you have already noticed the pattern.
I wonder, when he is walking around with your baby in his arms saying ridiculous things, would you feel able to say "I see what you are doing and you need to stop"? I don't think you would, in fact, the reason you just ride the abusive cycle out is because you are too scared to do anything else.
Raising your daughter in a house with a man like this will be awful for her. When she is older and he's using her to abuse you or systematically breaking things, how do you think she will make sense of it?
If you try and control the situation he will escalate his behaviour, everything he does is very controlled and pointed to make you feel bad. If he feels like he is losing that control then who knows what he will do to regain it.

Keepingthingsinteresting · 15/07/2024 08:48

Megnogs · 14/07/2024 14:49

Yesterday I told him to go and take a breather and his response was ‘I don’t want to be on my own cos then I’ll just want to commit suicide’ so yeah idk what to do in that situation. Nothing seems to help.
also just wanna clear up when he says things like the showering thing, he’s not blaming her, he’s basically saying he should have showered but caring for her is more important. He also uses a positive tone of voice when he says it - although what he’s saying is negative, it’s like he wants me to hear what he’s saying and feel bad cos he smells bad.
the swearing thing I can’t really justify though, it really bothers me. It will just be like him getting frustrated that she’s not settling when he’s tried everything and he will just be like ‘fucking hell’ or ‘just shut the f up’ I’ve told him off for it before but I think I’m gonna have to be firmer.

Hi @Megnogs , I wanted to pull out this bit “he also uses a positive tone of voice when he says it - although what he’s saying is negative, it’s like he wants me to hear what he’s saying and feel bad cos he smells bad.” Please read the bold bit, he wants to make you feel bad= this is abuse. The suicide comment is a massive red flag too.
I hear you say he isn’t like this all the time, but any shot in your tea is bad enough not to drink it. Please also think how damaging it will be for your daughter as she grows up having to walk on eggshells not to set daddy off, or that everything is mummy’s fault, or that she has to be good or daddy will swear and get angry.
His emotions are his responsibility, he needs to get a grip but please get out of there and look after your daughter & yourself.

mightymam · 15/07/2024 10:32

He's an abusive shit. You know this deep down or you wouldn't be posting.

mightymam · 15/07/2024 10:33

For when he threatens suicide:

www.thehotline.org/resources/when-my-partner-threatens-suicide/

neilyoungismyhero · 15/07/2024 10:45

He sounds like a time bomb to me and I would be concerned about the safety of my child if not myself.
Maybe some time apart whilst he involves himself in counselling would be beneficial for you all.

Naunet · 15/07/2024 13:18

It’s the baby I feel sorry for. Sorry OP but you were both incredibly irresponsible to add a baby to this situation, but now she’s here, it’s your job to put her first, and that involves not having her live in such a volatile home,

Goodluckanddontfitup · 15/07/2024 22:29

This sounds really tough for everyone. What I will say is though, as much as you say he is not hurting you or your daughter, as she gets older these dark clouds and episodes will start to affect her, kids pick up on these things and it will be a horrible and scary atmosphere for a little girl to grow up in. I understand you don’t want to split, and that’s admirable, but maybe you need to support from a distance until he can get this under control, get a safe space for your little one before this really starts to affect her.

Nools24 · 16/07/2024 18:22

I still think he is unable to be honest, even with himself, about his anger. It is obvious to me that he gets angry and can’t control himself and for some reason. Is unable to say what really made him angry. He has serious issues.

Happyinarcon · 16/07/2024 19:26

I’ve been reading through these posts. It’s sad how many women have had these exact experiences and been victim to the same tactics. There’s a lot of wisdom here, thank heavens for online forums.

BeFastPearlOP · 04/04/2026 17:56

Hi, I came across your post when searching for something myself. I appreciate this was a while ago but I was wondering how you are doing? I’m in a similar situation. Partner is veteran, this started 5 weeks after first child was born. 5 sections later and not much has changed. Are you ok? Xx

RoseField1 · 04/04/2026 17:58

loropianalover · 14/07/2024 14:06

You need couples therapy so you have a safe space with someone else present to lay out the issues at home that are impacting you and baby. He needs to understand exactly what the issues are and why they are so scary. He needs to control himself before baby starts picking up his behaviours and thinking they are OK.

It will be hard but he needs to actively work on himself to be better. He needs different coping mechanisms for when he gets annoyed (not breaking things) and a different way to cope when he’s ’depressed’ (not the silent treatment).

Absolutely not. Couples therapy is not safe where there is domestic abuse which this is.

Twix214 · 04/04/2026 18:20

Hi OP I’ve been in a relationship with similar principles to what you described in your relationship, minus the baby fortunately. These guys don’t change, they just get worse - I was also in denial like you are in the middle of it.
He had a traumatic history and I thought he was not a bad person and had my best interests at heart and loved me. Yes he could be kind and sweet but in hindsight there was 20 percent of the relationship where he chipped away at my self esteem under the guise of being loving and supportive, for example telling me things like I’d be hot if I went to the gym and lost weight and wanting me to be someone I wasn’t. He would sulk if he didn’t get his own way. When he got angry or upset or I challenged him on something I wasn’t happy about in our relationship he would get angry, punch walls and sometimes break things but never laid a finger on me. He also lied about things as well. Eventually he insisted I go to counselling on my own (not him) to ‘work on my issues’. The only thing the counselling did was made me realise and come to terms with the fact he was coercive and controlling and not a loving partner and I dumped him. It was only when I got out of that relationship I realised and saw it for what it was. That’s all I’ll say.

outerspacepotato · 04/04/2026 18:37

Do NOT do any kind of joint counseling with someone who is abusive.

He needs individual counseling yesterday. He needs mental health screening, a treatment plan, and possibly medication. If he's ex military, there should be vet groups he can reach out to for assistance.

outerspacepotato · 04/04/2026 18:51

‘I don’t want to be on my own cos then I’ll just want to commit suicide’

You call your police emergency number and tell them your partner is threatening suicide and you have a baby in the home.

If it's true, he will get the psychiatric evaluation he needs and proper treatment.

If he's lying to manipulate you, he'll be much less likely to do this again.

You've got a violent man in the home breaking even the baby's things and you are not safe. Your priority here needs to be the safety and welfare of you and your baby.

BeachRide · 04/04/2026 19:02

Zombie thread. Hopefully OP LTB and is much happier.

Sodthesystem · 04/04/2026 19:25

Edit: mm zombie thread

LondonLady1980 · 04/04/2026 21:08

This isn’t depression, it’s manipulative and controlling abuse. He knows exactly what he’s doing.

Unfortunately you don’t want to see that though but sadly it takes a lot of women in your position a long to see the truth about the situation they’re in and be able to accept/admit what kind of man they are with.

He is not a good man.
He is not a good partner.

He is volatile and aggressive and he should not be around your baby.

I really hope this thread helps you to see the reality of the dysfunctional relationship you are in.

ChikinLikin · 04/04/2026 21:19

Suicide threats, breaking baby equipment, binning baby equipment, swearing at the baby. It's all very threatening. I don't think he is a safe father or partner. You should take the baby and leave.

ChikinLikin · 04/04/2026 21:22

Ah. Just seen the zombie thread warnings.

Pryceosh1987 · 04/04/2026 23:38

Help your partner find a good counselling and support. .

Unexpectedlysinglemum · 04/04/2026 23:45

This is horrific to read. I really think you and baby should move out, but then I’d also be scared of him being alone with baby. I would focus on yourself and baby only. Google ‘yellow rock’ and ‘grey rock’ and BIFF and use these techniques to protect yourself from arguments escalating while you live with him.
PLEASE create a paper trail. Email yourself and/or a trusted friend everything things like this happen (maybe even set up a new additional emial now just for this purpose). So he can’t see but it’s time stamped. You will need this evidence if you end up in family court.

Mogbiscuit · 05/04/2026 07:57

Megnogs · 14/07/2024 15:33

If I feel like the behaviour is directed at me for some kind of reaction - how should I be reacting? Cos I have no idea

(I got so worried halfway through your thread that I didn't to the and, and also didn't notice the dates. )

You have no idea how to deal with this so get some professional help OP. Find a therapist you can talk to honestly about what is happening and how to change things. You won't get instant answers from strangers on the internet.

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