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Upset, confused. Think I've had enough.

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Sockmate123 · 08/07/2024 14:26

Looking for advice I suppose. Don't really know where to start. Currently on holiday with DH and 2 kids.

DH generally grumpy/irritable, not all the time, has a good sense of humour and can be upbeat when it suits him but like at entertainment at hotel I have chatted to other families at the entertainment/by the pool and he just sits there with his head in a book/earphones on or wearing these sunglasses that play music/audio books. When I say something he tuts/sighs and pulls out the ear pods. Basically I am always competing with devices. At home he is in meetings online (fine) but in evenings few times a week is online gaming. Basically every time I knock on office door he's telling me he has to go on a call and to hurry up whatever I want to say.

He has a high powered job and it's well paid. I work part time. We pool all our money just keeping some 'fun' money each.

Anyway on this holiday things seem to be deteriorating. He is gaslighting me all the time. He seems to bizarrely be trying to spin a narrative to the kids that I am drinking. Last night I lifted my daughters teddy to give to her in bed, there was an ear pod under it that I didn't realise was there and fell on the floor. He started huffing and puffing and swearing and saying if I wasn't drunk I wouldn't have knocked it over. I drank a glass and a half of wine. I am not a drinker. I drink maybe once every 2 months and I am such a lightweight it's a running joke with my friends! I can only handle 2 glasses of wine and I don't drink anything else.

A few nights ago at the entertainment I was enjoying myself singing along with the entertainment. He told the kids 'this is what Mummy is like after 4 glasses of wine'. I had nowhere near 4 glasses of wine, if I did I wouldn't be able to walk.

Last night I was arguing with him over text that do not accuse me of being drunk in front of my children. He is replying stuff like 'our' children. And insisting I am drunk but he didn't call me that and that I called him that. I didn't.

He is bare faced lying now when he would never have been a liar before.

I'm concerned now he is trying to twist things to build a case against me down the road. He told me recently during a conversation about a friend who is divorcing and her husband has to pay maintenance. He said that wouldn't be him and he would just 'leave the jurisdiction'. I said that would mean leaving your children.

I'm concerned his personality is changing. Sex life isn't great but hasn't been since 1st child due to 'catastrophic' injuries during his birth, it hasn't been an issue really as it wasn't my fault and he understood that.

What advice do you all have? He hasn't apologised since last night. I am communicating here today with him functionally, as in if he asks do I have the suncream, I'll answer etc

I am a good Mother, my youngest has additional needs and psychologist recently told me she's lucky as I go above and beyond.

He isn't a great Dad, not the worst bit has little patience with them and clashes hugely with my eldest.

If you've read this far you deserve a medal! 😂 thank you and sorry for the rambling post 🙈

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BouquetGarni224 · 09/07/2024 11:02

BuggeryBumFlaps · 08/07/2024 19:19

I did exactly this with mixes he said he wanted the dc 50/50 to avoid paying for them.

I said great, I'll be able to further my career and will get a week to myself I can go back to the gym and catch up with friends. He did NOT like that at all. Suddenly decided he wanted the dc eow (just to punish me). So he now pays Maint through CMS and sees the dc eow

This, this dude can't be arsed with interaction with his wife and kids.

He's not going to do 50-50.

BouquetGarni224 · 09/07/2024 11:05

He is only part UK though and links to other country in Europe

I would check out the CM reciprocal arrangements for that country.

I would also look into making sure he can't take kids anywhere without your agreement and knowledge.

Though to be honest, he sounds more like the type to want minimum to do with kids.

Inspireme2 · 09/07/2024 11:09

How awful to put up with this on hoilday.
I would be taking some time to read your book at age 9 & 12 why can you not, let the kids know you need you time.
Let your husband know when you return things are in for a change.
Start tormenting him.

thestudio · 09/07/2024 11:17

Did he get bullied out - or did they just see him for the abusive narcissist he is?

Sockmate123 · 09/07/2024 11:45

thestudio · 09/07/2024 11:17

Did he get bullied out - or did they just see him for the abusive narcissist he is?

Obviously I only know his side nut he has a lot of support about the situation from very high up. Guy involved is an absolute dickhead so I believe it tbh.

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zeibesaffron · 09/07/2024 12:15

I would also increase your working hours - I have seen stories on here and a few in my own friendship group - where finances is the only reason people cannot leave, and the sahm/ sahd has been totally screwed when the marriage has ended.

VoteHappy · 09/07/2024 12:15

Let your husband know when you return things are in for a change.
Start tormenting him

Don't do this
Anything you do will be used as ammunition against you

Go quiet, calm and start planning silently
Get everything sorted,save as much as you can
Do not go the tormenting him route,he is already nasty.
Abuse often ramps up if they get a heads up you are leaving

StrawberryWater · 09/07/2024 12:26

Increase your working hours so that you have more money and can support yourself when you get rid of this arsehat.

Also when you get back home book an appointment with your GP and get a wellness check up. Your husband is trying to make our you're a drunk and I have no doubt he'll probably tell people you're mad too. Circumvent it and get ahead of his game just in case it comes up in any custody depute. Make sure you get a regular check up every 6 weeks.

seethingmess · 09/07/2024 13:28

He certainly doesn't want to be on the holiday for whatever reason. You'll probably find that his mood improves as it gets closer to going home.

You'd be better off without him, as would the children. Don't worry about losing money on the September holiday, it's the least of your worries.

Sockmate123 · 09/07/2024 14:39

I cant increase my working hours as I claim carers for my youngest. I can only work 18 hours a week.i am banking the carers money though into my personal revolut so at least that's building up

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Whalewatching · 09/07/2024 14:59

Just wondering if he’s very unhappy with living away from home as you said he would probably go back there if you split? Could that be depressing him and he’s taking it out on you?

Sicario · 09/07/2024 15:00

What horrible behaviour. Treating you like a doormat, showing zero respect, and suggesting to the children that you are a drunk. How utterly despicable.

Do not be afraid of ending an abusive marriage. Yes - divorce is always ghastly - but the grass really is greener on the other side. There is nothing worse than feeling trapped in a bad marriage. He also sounds like a bully.

What you are enduring now is no way to live.

There's an interesting thread going on at the moment about how much better a lot of women feel after escaping a bad marriage.

https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/divorce_separation/5114650-things-ive-noticed-since-the-divorce?page=5&reply=136644933

Page 5 | Things I've noticed since the divorce | Mumsnet

1) My house (I managed to buy a little home) is much cleaner and tidier despite the ikea boxes 2) I spend a lot less money on groceries AND my work...

https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/divorce_separation/5114650-things-ive-noticed-since-the-divorce?page=5&reply=136644933

BobbyBiscuits · 09/07/2024 15:16

I would try and take the kids out each day, let him stay there by the pool with his earphones in. Go on excursions you know he won't like. Just go with them to the other side of the resort if you have to. Polite and civil with him at times you're together. Try not to react to anything he says.

I honestly think you should leave him. I know you say you're scared about his reaction and the kids etc but he's treating you like absolute crap and you don't need to tolerate it any more.

For the holiday, for the kids sake, avoid him as much as possible. If he starts an argument just leave the room. Say 'I'm not arguing with you on holiday.' And get legal advice as soon as you land.

13Bastards · 09/07/2024 16:05

Grit your teeth and smile, keep as far away from him as you can (no one wants to catch his dodgy tummy do they!) and keep focused on the children.

Drink, or don't drink - he is going to be an arsehole anyway so you may as well enjoy those glasses of wine. If he accuses you of being drunk roll your eyes and make a joke of it 'you know I don't drink daddy, don't be daft'

Make notes somewhere he cannot access them on your phone of what he says and when. When you get home, time to start to plan leaving him.

Does he drink out of interest OP? I am wondering if he is trying to hide some sort of issue and blaming you for being drunk instead.

DaughterNo2 · 09/07/2024 16:16

Elsewhere123 · 08/07/2024 15:26

Why don't you stop drinking completely. Then he can't gaslight you. I recommend Noughty alcohol free wine. Don't tell him what you are drinking until he says you are drunk. Unpleasant, unkind behaviour you are experiencing. Perhaps keep a diary so you have data to support you e.g. he was minding children for 1xhour and elder child rang you twice as distressed on this day at this time.

OP shouldn’t have to stop having a glass of wine on holiday, just because her H is an arse

Sockmate123 · 09/07/2024 18:43

Sicario · 09/07/2024 15:00

What horrible behaviour. Treating you like a doormat, showing zero respect, and suggesting to the children that you are a drunk. How utterly despicable.

Do not be afraid of ending an abusive marriage. Yes - divorce is always ghastly - but the grass really is greener on the other side. There is nothing worse than feeling trapped in a bad marriage. He also sounds like a bully.

What you are enduring now is no way to live.

There's an interesting thread going on at the moment about how much better a lot of women feel after escaping a bad marriage.

https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/divorce_separation/5114650-things-ive-noticed-since-the-divorce?page=5&reply=136644933

Thank you for your kind words, I actually read some if that thread yesterday!

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Sockmate123 · 09/07/2024 18:45

13Bastards · 09/07/2024 16:05

Grit your teeth and smile, keep as far away from him as you can (no one wants to catch his dodgy tummy do they!) and keep focused on the children.

Drink, or don't drink - he is going to be an arsehole anyway so you may as well enjoy those glasses of wine. If he accuses you of being drunk roll your eyes and make a joke of it 'you know I don't drink daddy, don't be daft'

Make notes somewhere he cannot access them on your phone of what he says and when. When you get home, time to start to plan leaving him.

Does he drink out of interest OP? I am wondering if he is trying to hide some sort of issue and blaming you for being drunk instead.

Thanks for the advice. No he is like me-doesn't really drink which is why the comments so silly

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Disturbtheuniverse · 09/07/2024 19:32

Are you sure there is no other woman behind the scenes? It sounds like he is creating a narrative around you so that he can blame you if it gets found out (especially with the children).

Other than that, I can't think why anyone would outrightly lie in that way. He sounds horrible!

Sockmate123 · 09/07/2024 23:40

Disturbtheuniverse · 09/07/2024 19:32

Are you sure there is no other woman behind the scenes? It sounds like he is creating a narrative around you so that he can blame you if it gets found out (especially with the children).

Other than that, I can't think why anyone would outrightly lie in that way. He sounds horrible!

I'm not sure no, I dont think you ever can be but I did look through his phone the other day and nothing suspicious. I don't why is like it either . He is being nice this afternoon/evening but I'm just playing along

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