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How did we end up HERE?? Major differences in relationship.

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cookiescreamiwanttoscream · 17/06/2024 17:42

This is going to be long and potentially just a huge ramble. If you're up for a rollercoaster then feel free to read. I'd appreciate it if you'd take the time.
I've name changed as this is somewhat outing as I'm almost certain nobody else will be facing these very specific petty issues.
I've been with my partner getting on for 8 years. We've had our differences which have been apparent but mostly able to resolve them or ignore them.
Our biggest differences are that of our ideas surrounding religion, ethics and politics.
Recently I got a tattoo - I'm English, and this tattoo is in a different language. It means a lot to me and is something I've wanted for a long time for a couple different reasons.
This sparked an uproar in the household for reasons unknown (make your own conclusion as I have mine!!)
Since then, I've been met with petty remarks from my partner as to why I've gotten this tattoo. How I'm a try - hard, a "beg", embarrassing, etc etc.
Now this may seem like a leap here, (in regard to what has happened next) but I am serious.
During a political discussion my partner has proclaimed that he will be voting reform UK in this year's general election. And what has pushed him to this decision is the fact that I got this tattoo. (Baffling I know)
This party completely oppose all of my morals and beliefs and I cannot stand them. Even worse than the actual party, the supporters themselves.
This took me aback a bit, but oh no. He was not finished.
He has shown me emails, that he has signed up to be an official supporter of the party and has registered to have flyers, posters and placards delivered to the house to display for reform.
He has told me he will come with me on the school run to hand out flyers for them, and that he will be putting posters in the windows of the house.
He has purchased pin badges and a blue tie for himself to dress up in a suit and hand out these bloody flyers!!!
For context, I know for a fact that a large percentage of the school will NOT appreciate this and that it will seem like some sort of stupid political statement due to the area we live in.
I feel like he will be parading behind me doing this as some sort of public humiliation tactic because I have essentially done something he does not like or agree with. And this is what I get because of it!!?
It's absolutely insane to me that he would go to this length. He finds it funny, and isn't even that politically Intelligent!
This is NOT normal behaviour, and I know this !
I don't know what I'm gaining through posting this here. But I just need to vent. I cannot really speak to my family members about this as it is too bloody embarrassing to admit!!
I really appreciate it if you've made it through this ridiculous post. I can imagine you're all just as baffled as I am about it all.
Maybe just some words of encouragement? Or a little group of you to help me take the absolute mickey out of what is actually quite worrying ?? 😵‍💫

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cookiescreamiwanttoscream · 17/06/2024 18:46

LuluBlakey1 · 17/06/2024 18:26

I don't understand about the tattoo- does it say something in Arabic? Is it Islamic? Is that his issue with it?

My reply sounded passive aggressive, sorry. I genuinely mean thank you. It's easier for somebody to guess what I mean than openly admitting it myself x

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Daleksatemyshed · 17/06/2024 18:47

Is it National DH's being petty week? All I've read here just lately is men behaving really badly because their Darling wives aren't doing exactly as they want them to. Bugger it Op, tell everyone in your family, don't be embarrassed, he's the one whose lost the plot

cookiescreamiwanttoscream · 17/06/2024 18:47

Opentooffers · 17/06/2024 18:28

Has he explained why he wants to support the party? Is there any logic apart from being potentially racist. Does he know what's in their manifesto?

He has NO idea. Now I've not studied politics by any means. But I am up to date with the current issues and I have morals. He has NO idea. They haven't even released an official manifesto! Or if they have it was today and I've not yet seen!

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Sunnytwobridges · 17/06/2024 18:48

It almost seems as if he wants you to end things. Purposely doing/saying things he knows will hurt/annoy/anger you. Sometimes that’s what people do as their “get outta jail free” pass.

cookiescreamiwanttoscream · 17/06/2024 18:53

Sunnytwobridges · 17/06/2024 18:48

It almost seems as if he wants you to end things. Purposely doing/saying things he knows will hurt/annoy/anger you. Sometimes that’s what people do as their “get outta jail free” pass.

That is exactly how I feel sometimes. But when I approach a conversation this way, I'm met with the response that he's not doing that at all.. that he WANTS to be with me. Otherwise he wouldn't be doing xyz/ (insert bare minimum act here)

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cookiescreamiwanttoscream · 17/06/2024 18:54

Daleksatemyshed · 17/06/2024 18:47

Is it National DH's being petty week? All I've read here just lately is men behaving really badly because their Darling wives aren't doing exactly as they want them to. Bugger it Op, tell everyone in your family, don't be embarrassed, he's the one whose lost the plot

It must be !! It does sound like he's lost the plot. This is why I must laugh about it. When really when you look deeper, it's really not that funny !

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cookiescreamiwanttoscream · 17/06/2024 19:00

I wanted to add he does have form for making deliberately opposing statements about things currently going on in the world (not just one issue) just to make a point.
I don't know what this means. I don't know if he likes the reaction or what the actual motive is. But it does happen a lot. So this isn't totally out of the blue.

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Beelips · 17/06/2024 19:09

He sounds very unpleasant. Why are you with him OP?

CaptainOliviaBenson · 17/06/2024 19:10

LizzieBennett73 · 17/06/2024 18:06

I will admit that I'd really struggle if DH came home with a tattoo. Is that at the root of all of this?

Really? Why? Confused

cookiescreamiwanttoscream · 17/06/2024 19:11

Beelips · 17/06/2024 19:09

He sounds very unpleasant. Why are you with him OP?

Change is hard. It's been 8 years of my life, our child together, not financially stable, he makes me believe he wants to be with me and although I'm quite a strong person sometimes it gets to me. But I'm young, and I can't live like this forever, can I??

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Summerflames · 17/06/2024 19:13

Oh I'd dump his sorry ass, he sounds like a prize idiot and you sound way too good for him.

cookiescreamiwanttoscream · 17/06/2024 19:19

Summerflames · 17/06/2024 19:13

Oh I'd dump his sorry ass, he sounds like a prize idiot and you sound way too good for him.

Thank you, sometimes I do question myself !

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WitcheryDivine · 17/06/2024 19:24

Sounds as if he has something against SOMEONE, whether it’s you, Arabic speakers in general, one nationality or perhaps Islam I dunno but it doesn’t much matter does it. Is he angling to be a bargain basement Lawrence Fox? All that “playing devil’s advocate” shit some men do (ie “pretending” to believe something) IME is usually them having a go at expressing their true beliefs. So I think he really is this guy. The question is do you want to be with this guy?

And no he’s not putting up placards on your house without you agreeing - it’s your place as much as his. Not to mention it might make you a target if you live in an area where people might hate Reform (ie almost anywhere). So sorry you’re in this situation of twattishness.

unsync · 17/06/2024 19:30

Read the book 'Why does he do that?' by Lundy Bancroft and see if any of that resonates with you. Then make a decision about whether he's a keeper (he's not).

somethingwickedlivesnextdoor · 17/06/2024 19:33

So he didn't like the wording of your tattoo and has since gone out of his way to be a complete arse? Is he usually like this?

cookiescreamiwanttoscream · 17/06/2024 19:34

WitcheryDivine · 17/06/2024 19:24

Sounds as if he has something against SOMEONE, whether it’s you, Arabic speakers in general, one nationality or perhaps Islam I dunno but it doesn’t much matter does it. Is he angling to be a bargain basement Lawrence Fox? All that “playing devil’s advocate” shit some men do (ie “pretending” to believe something) IME is usually them having a go at expressing their true beliefs. So I think he really is this guy. The question is do you want to be with this guy?

And no he’s not putting up placards on your house without you agreeing - it’s your place as much as his. Not to mention it might make you a target if you live in an area where people might hate Reform (ie almost anywhere). So sorry you’re in this situation of twattishness.

His argument will be he pays rent so he makes the decision. I do believe he is this guy. And his beliefs are not mine. Our area (albeit, as you said like most) absolutely DO hate reform and I think it would cause quite a stir if he took this near the school. And I do not under any circumstances want to be associated with his support for the party (that he knows nothing about)

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cookiescreamiwanttoscream · 17/06/2024 19:35

somethingwickedlivesnextdoor · 17/06/2024 19:33

So he didn't like the wording of your tattoo and has since gone out of his way to be a complete arse? Is he usually like this?

Well he usually makes his opinions known, so to speak. But in the past I've just accepted it and not done as I have wished to do for a quiet life. This time.. I decided screw it. I want this, I don't care what he thinks. And now this has come about as a result.
It's a one word tattoo, it's hardly offensive. It baffles me.

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ProjectEdensGate · 17/06/2024 19:40

cookiescreamiwanttoscream · 17/06/2024 19:00

I wanted to add he does have form for making deliberately opposing statements about things currently going on in the world (not just one issue) just to make a point.
I don't know what this means. I don't know if he likes the reaction or what the actual motive is. But it does happen a lot. So this isn't totally out of the blue.

It means he's a fucking tit.

cookiescreamiwanttoscream · 17/06/2024 19:42

@ProjectEdensGate for want of better words 🤣

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AddersAtDawn · 17/06/2024 19:50

He has purchased pin badges and a blue tie for himself to dress up in a suit

That's actually bloody hilarious. How much of a tit he is gonna look all dressed up to hand out flyers.

He sounds like a bargain basement Lawrence Fox, tbh. And look how that turned out for his family....

Beelips · 17/06/2024 20:00

cookiescreamiwanttoscream · 17/06/2024 19:11

Change is hard. It's been 8 years of my life, our child together, not financially stable, he makes me believe he wants to be with me and although I'm quite a strong person sometimes it gets to me. But I'm young, and I can't live like this forever, can I??

Yes, change is hard. But as you say, you are young and life really is short. From your posts I don't feel there is a lot of love or respect in your relationship - from him towards you but also it would make sense if you have grown resentful of his ways. Do you still love him? You say 'he makes me believe he wants to be with me' but what does that mean? Does that mean that you feel you must then stay with him? Does that mean that you interpret him wanting to be with you as love? Do you feel loved?

Re financial dependence - it's a tough one but I would advise that if you conclude you don't want to spend the rest of your life in a 'partnership' like this, that you want more, start making plans to make yourself financially independent?

cookiescreamiwanttoscream · 17/06/2024 20:13

AddersAtDawn · 17/06/2024 19:50

He has purchased pin badges and a blue tie for himself to dress up in a suit

That's actually bloody hilarious. How much of a tit he is gonna look all dressed up to hand out flyers.

He sounds like a bargain basement Lawrence Fox, tbh. And look how that turned out for his family....

I mean they're pretty similar I must admit!! 😆
I do find it hilarious (the suit and pin badge) I genuinely did crack up when he showed me his seriousness with his purchase history on eBay of all places. But I have to remember, this is actually my life!!
I remember reading a thread on here years ago about the stupid childlike things a man put his wife through and I laughed.. but it must have been hell for her.
I just cannot believe some men behave this way. And unfortunately I picked one for myself unbeknownst to me 8 yrs ago!!

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cookiescreamiwanttoscream · 17/06/2024 20:16

@Beelips honestly no, I haven't felt loved for a long while now.
I know I loved him at the start so very much, but I haven't even felt that for a while. I deeply care for him and he has issues of his own I've tried for so long to help him through. There's always going to be care there I guess but I do feel very resentful of the person he has shown himself to be.
I feel sad that he is no longer like he was when I met him, and I feel stupid for not recognising this behaviour from the start.
I've developed an "I don't care" sort of attitude about how he behaves recently, which I was quite happy with myself for. As previously things would have made me upset.
But this just takes the biscuit, and I don't know whether to laugh, cry or both!
With the financial side, he is very difficult and it's proving difficult for me to make these steps. But I trust I will get there.

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AGodawfulsmallaffair · 17/06/2024 20:23

cookiescreamiwanttoscream · 17/06/2024 19:11

Change is hard. It's been 8 years of my life, our child together, not financially stable, he makes me believe he wants to be with me and although I'm quite a strong person sometimes it gets to me. But I'm young, and I can't live like this forever, can I??

No, no you can’t. My defining moment for ending my marriage was realising I could live with him for two or three years more, but not 30. I’d gone within a month.
I would be tempted to tell him he can carry through with the shitty school thing if he must, but he won’t be coming back. Sorry @cookiescreamiwanttoscream - he is quite bizarre and you and your child do not need him.

letmeeatcrisps · 17/06/2024 20:25

Hi OP my ex did this around 2016 with brexit and trump- at the time I thought he was just being “contrary” - we were generally fairly “alternative” so I figured it was just another phase
nope! it started with farage and he ended up a full blown racist nazi (I am a woman of colour and we have two children together)
i didn’t think he’d go so far down the incel / far right pipeline as he did. I never expected him to beat me up or threaten to kill me, but after becoming a terminally online misogynist, it’s like his brain completely melted

sorry I can’t make u laugh about it :(

all the best!

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