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Married for 14 years and 2 kids. Husband got STI while out with friends.

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WifeNMom · 17/06/2024 05:42

We were each other’s first. Married for 14 years and 2 kids. Since covid my husband is working from home. He usually goes out on guys trip 3-4 times a year after kids. We used to travel a lot before kids. After kids it’s hard to take vacation. When we do it’s like being parent in different city. He doesn’t seem cheater type.

Last year he came up to me and said he got positive for chlamydia and his dr said I should get tested (I was positive). I was furious and I asked him where/how did he catch this. He said ‘we travelled to many 3rd world countries so might’ve caught it from unhygienic environment.’ He sent me articles showing this STI could catch through eyes or dirty towels. I told him this is STI and not a cold and can’t be caught without sexual contact. He stuck to his story snd kept saying he didn’t cheat. In one of the argument he said ‘what if I did cheated, I come back to you, I am here with you, I love you. I am always home and in front of you. You have access to all my stuff phone, laptops, accounts etc ‘(I do but I don’t go through them). So I met my Dr and asked if it possible to get this from non sexual contact. She said it is highly unlikely but as people of science nothing is 100%. He was willing to help in any way for me to come out of this grief. We had couple of couple therapy sessions before I let it slip by.

Fast forward to 2024. I went to my gynecologist for routine check up and discussed this past chlamydia result. She said ‘if you didn’t cheat then he did. I am sorry this STI and only spread through sexual contact.’ Being each other’s first there was no dormant effect here. This got me furious and I knew he cheated and manipulated me into thinking he didn’t. When I confronted him he continued saying he didn’t cheat. When I asked him to swear on our children and his mom and he sweared. i was enraged and about to blow up anytime. I told him to come clean. One time he set me down and said ‘if you think I cheated then you think that but I know I didn’t. now what should we do. You don’t want me go on guys trip then I won’t. You and Kids are most important to me.’ I listened to him but somewhere I was still not satisfied. I wanted to know the details who, what, when, why, how etc. He is great dad to our children. Always works hard and manages to get time out for children. After a day later I wrote him email that I am not satisfied with his answer and he needs to come clean and I don’t know how long I could hold all this inside of me. I wanted to talk to his mom (whome I am close to). He asked for couple of days to back track his thought to see if anything happened under influence of drugs while he was out with his friends. He does occasionally drugs/marujana when on guys trip. He doesn’t smoke or does drugs when home. He works from home. He made some calls and found out while out with few of his friends and friends’ friend they did drugs in hotel suites. As he travelled from US he was exhausted and as occasional drug taker (under peer pressure) his system didn’t handle it well and he puked and passed out. One of friends’s friend called prostitute to the room. The friend he called said ‘i saw her doing something to you while you were passed out. It kinda looked like BJ.’ DH said I asked him why didn’t you tell me anything back then. The friend said he was wasted and next morning went out of town and then forgot.

This is my whole story. Do I seem paranoid? I still don’t believe him as he was building his story and trying to blame it on Drug influence. What do you guys think should I give this relationship a chance for my kids. We don’t have a great sex life (4-5 times a year per my much request) after kids. As he is busy establishing his business and works around the clock. He keeps telling me he doesn’t have the same sex drive as before. He always willing to work on this issue whenever I brought it up. He always takes time out of busy schedule to go out on date every week with me alone and as whole family. I am financially and emotionally strong. He alway encouraged me. We were always each other’s rock. We had perfect relationship and great partnership till this came up. Can this be one time thing? If he is a cheater type then wouldn’t he be secretive, making excuses to leave home, watch/addicted to porn? He doesn’t display any of these red flag. I am torn between my heart and brain. Not sure which one to believe.

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DotDashDot24 · 17/06/2024 21:24

According to the chlamydiacoalition.orgit is very difficult to get it from oral sex - in fact it can only happen where the man who ejaculates has it and infects the recipient - because it can only be passed via sex secretions - not via saliva (you’d catch it from kissing, wouldn’t you?)

They're also still sticking to a story "she was doing something to you and your trousers were a bit down" - that doesn't make it possible for him to get clamydia off her.

Or are they saying the "doing something" was her mounting him? It really doesn't sound like it.

They either are too dumb to know he couldn't have gotten clamydia from her doing oral sex on him, or they think you are too dumb to know that.

If you say he couldn't have gotten clamydia from her doing oral sex on him, they'll change the story again to something like her mounting him.

(Of course then he'd have to be hard enough to go inside her, even though he was so out of it on drugs he didn't know what she was doing and couldn't stop her).🙄

Her supposed reasons for doing that don't make sense either.

She had no guarantee she'd get any money out of any of them, she could have just stolen money, and she wouldn't be demanding money for a sex act if she wasn't a prostitute..... In which case are they claiming their friend invited prostituted to their hotel rooms, but they somehow didn't know they were prostitutes and thought they were just ordinary girls there to drink?! How likely is that? That their mate would invite prostitutes but not tell them.

How likely is it that a prostitute would do an unnecessary sex act on an unconscious man to claim money rather than just pinching whatever money she found on him. Or even just undress him and claim they'd had sex.

Even then he and/or his mates could easily refuse to pay her.

The whole story smells of total bullshit though.

Emptyheadlock · 17/06/2024 22:20

He's 100% lying.

We all know it, and so do you really.

You need a full sti check. Including hiv.

Opentooffers · 17/06/2024 22:39

They are doing sex work for money, not personal enjoyment, so they aren't going to be volunteering up unnecessary acts on an unconscious man when there is no need to.
You can get chlamydia in the back of the throat, unlikely for a woman to give it to a man that way though, more likely he had straight sex and was conscious at the time - or else she needn't have bothered.

Nellodee · 18/06/2024 07:47

If you believe his friends are the kind who encourage a prostitute to assault their innocent, unconscious friends, then how can you then go on to believe that they are trustworthy when describing the situation to one of their friends wives?

They are a bunch of disgusting cheats and liars. Birds of a feather flock together, as the saying goes.

DotDashDot24 · 18/06/2024 08:08

If you believe his friends are the kind who encourage a prostitute to assault their innocent, unconscious friends

Oh, they've changed the story now to one of his friends interrupting a "low character, third class etc" girl (not said to be a prostitute) sexually assaulting him, and them stopping her and getting rid of her.

Their reasons for her sexually assaulting him don't make any sense

That was not the original story; it was that one of the friends called a prostitute to their hotel and got her to do the sex act on him.

DotDashDot24 · 18/06/2024 08:10

They are a bunch of disgusting cheats and liars.

Yeah, the irony of them calling the girls low character lol.

There's no-one with a lower character than them.

Their attitude towards women, whether wives or prostitutes/party girls .. shines through everything they say.

(And I don't believe those girls were party girls, just there to drink - they were probably prostitutes. Hiring prostitutes in third world country is even worse than hiring them here).

Their lad trips are very clearly "party time" for them .... With as much hedonism, with no holds barred,.as they can get - drink, drugs, sex with prostitutes, probably sex with non prostitutes if they can get it. This is the time out they feel they're entitled to and that is natural for them as men.

I'm betting they don't feel their wives are not entitled to the same time outs as them though - even if op's h is ok with a girls trip. He knows she's not doing anything like him and his mates. If like to see his behaviour if she infected him with clamydia.

crispyeggs · 18/06/2024 08:15

Did an AI bot write this?

DotDashDot24 · 18/06/2024 08:17

crispyeggs · 18/06/2024 08:15

Did an AI bot write this?

I don't think English is the first/main language for the op.

They're all from SE Asia, I think.

CadyEastman · 18/06/2024 08:23

Their lad trips are very clearly "party time" for them .... With as much hedonism, with no holds barred,.as they can get - drink, drugs, sex with prostitutes, probably sex with non prostitutes if they can get it. This is the time out they feel they're entitled to and that is natural for them as men

And he doesn't even care enough for the OP to use a condom whilst he has sex with all of the other Women.

crispyeggs · 18/06/2024 08:23

DotDashDot24 · 18/06/2024 08:17

I don't think English is the first/main language for the op.

They're all from SE Asia, I think.

I'm really not being xenophobic, I see a lot of EAL posts on here but this one strikes me strangely due to the odd and repetitive phrasing and unusual narrative structure.

DotDashDot24 · 18/06/2024 09:28

CadyEastman · 18/06/2024 08:23

Their lad trips are very clearly "party time" for them .... With as much hedonism, with no holds barred,.as they can get - drink, drugs, sex with prostitutes, probably sex with non prostitutes if they can get it. This is the time out they feel they're entitled to and that is natural for them as men

And he doesn't even care enough for the OP to use a condom whilst he has sex with all of the other Women.

Yeah I don't think Clamydia is one of the ones that can sidestep condoms (like HSV/HPV).

If he's doing lots of drinking and taking drugs, he's probably not with it enough to reliably use condoms.

I'd not be touching him again anyway, but I definitely wouldn't be until he got a full std screening and showed me the results.

The op needs one too.

BePinkPombear · 18/06/2024 09:46

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DotDashDot24 · 18/06/2024 14:55

I will also say that people do some pretty insane stuff when they feel threatened or backed into a corner. I know he created this problem for himself but I can honestly understand why he would try and come up with a story with his friends to try to avoid the truth. He’s scared, even if he’s behaved awfully in this situation.

He is a serial cheater.

Everything points to that.

He must not use condoms.

He's infected op with at least one std.

He could have infected her with an incurable std.

If she had been pregnant he could have caused her to miscarry a child, or have a still birth, or have a child with abnormalities they'd not otherwise have had.

It looks like he exploits impoverished, deprived, disadvantaged young women in third world countries for sex.

He takes drugs.

He and his mates all do this together and close ranks and lie for each other if they get caught.

They think women are dumb, and there for them to use. He has zero respect for women, whether wives or prostitutes.

He thinks his wife should be grateful and appreciative that he only cheats casually on her, and doesn't leave her.

He is serial liar. He never stops lying.

He has caused op a huge amount of pain, trauma, grief (as she describes it) etc. and no matter how much she tries not to let it , that inevitably affects her as a person, and as a parent to their children.

You give TERRIBLE advice.

DotDashDot24 · 18/06/2024 15:03

I’ve seen people move past infidelity together after children born because of the affair, sex addicts, people using sex workers, STIs you name it

Move past is a very relative term. It ain't over til the fat lady sings. You have no idea what's going on in those relationships and what will happen in future.

Just because they were foolish/had incredibly low standards/poor judgement and are "caught" ....doesn't mean that's behaviour anyone should copy.

I've seen people do lots of unwise, self destructive things .... So what.
Doesn't mean it's a good standard to copy.

TakeMeDancing · 18/06/2024 16:47
  • He told you initially that the STI was absolutely not from sexual contact, but from poor hygiene.
  • Your gynae confirmed that this is a lie.
  • He claimed that when he was drunk or on drugs and passed out, a random woman gave him a BJ while he was unconscious, which gave him the STI. I’m afraid I don’t know these women who are out looking for passed out tourists so that they can suck their cocks. I also am not aware of any sex workers who are out giving BJs to passed out blokes—I don’t know that they particularly enjoy them—I would think it was more of a chore/burden to do for money, rather than an activity that they enjoy doing on unsuspecting unconscious blokes.
Can you read what you’re writing, OP? You know that none of this adds up, right?

My aunt cheated on my uncle and she got caught out by them both catching an STI too. The kids were young at the time, so he forgave her and they stayed together for the kids. The marriage didn’t last in the end.

DotDashDot24 · 18/06/2024 16:59

a random woman gave him a BJ while he was unconscious, which gave him the STI

It looks like a man can't even get clamydia from oral sex done on him.

Tillievanilly · 18/06/2024 17:02

The clue is in the title it’s an sti. He is dishonest and knows if he admits it you will kick his sorry arse out. I would do that anyway until he learns to be honest. Then go from there.

findingmoi · 18/06/2024 17:06

I would have divorced him the second he tried to fob me off with catching Chlamydia from a dirty towel.

Men probably do get up to all sorts that many women are unaware of. It would be one thing if he came clean straight up. Roll the dice and get caught as they say...

It's rhetorical audacity of him gaslighting you, saying he knows he didn't cheat, then sending you articles about catching it from unhygienic environments. Now this concocted nonsense about taking drugs and passing out and a sex worker landing on his d*.

It's like something from a song.

IsawwhatIsaw · 18/06/2024 17:20

it sounds like you’re the one struggling to find excuses and justification for what he did. Shouldn’t he be the one trying to conjure up increasing ludicrous explanations? He cheated, now he’s insulting your intelligence.
the question is, what are you going to do now.

DotDashDot24 · 18/06/2024 17:40

Shouldn’t he be the one trying to conjure up increasing ludicrous explanations?

He is.

His latest manoeuvre has been to get the op to listen in on a conversation (about the incident which he says gave him clamydia) with a friend who was there.

Apparently the friend doesn't know she was listening.Mmhmm

And she's supposed to be believe the friend wasn't set up/prepared/given a script before this phone call.

XMissPlacedX · 18/06/2024 17:48

Sorry this has happened to you but I'm not sure why your posted about it. You know what happened , you know he cheated and your letting him play you for a fool when he put your health at risk ( what if it was HIV? Would you be so forgiving?)

Your obviously not going to leave him so I don't understand what you want to hear from mumsnet posters!

You have a very low bar for self respect and he has no respect for you either.

orion678 · 18/06/2024 19:51

OK. One of two things is true. Either he knowingly cheated on you, or you have a husband who thinks it's OK to go on a boys trip and get so off his head on drugs that he can pick up an STI from a prostitute and not know what was happening to him. And has friends who think it's OK to a) solicit prostitutes and b) leave them unattended with an incapacitated friend. Any way you look at it, this is a shit show. He is not a man I would want to share my life, my trust, and my family with. It's one of the clearest LTB scenarios I've ever seen, and if you're not familiar with the MN acronym: leave the bastard

Italiansocks · 18/06/2024 21:20

"she was doing something to you and your trousers were a bit down"

this comment from the friend is the nail in the coffin for me. Any mature man knows how to recognise all the basic sex acts, let alone your husband’s companions who strike me as the kind of men who are watching porn daily. But no, it is - as Poirot would say - a COMPLET mystery WHAT she was doin to him down zere. Perhaps she was painting his balls duck egg blue with a tiny paintbrush. Or was she calculating the date of the next lunar eclipse using his penis as a sundial. We will never know.

Pinkbits · 18/06/2024 21:22

@Italiansocks Its no laughing matter but that Poirot quote made me rofl!😂

BePinkPombear · 18/06/2024 22:23

Hi DotDashDot24
i asked Mumsnet to remove my post which they agreed to as I was worried about derailing the thread…I hope this reply doesn’t count as derailing, I’m still quite new to MN.

I reconciled after the trauma of infidelity but I also do not dispute that the OP’s husband has behaved abhorrently and traumatised her and anyone could understand if it was too much. I was trying not to advise because I can see the OP is conflicted but I can also see how by presenting some options and some comments that I was doing so and I apologise.

I hope OP is getting the support she needs IRL and here too