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Facing life alone with no partner

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datingqss · 24/05/2024 12:04

I have been online dating for coming up to two years. I left my ex because he was becoming even more abusive. I haven't regretted this decision. But I had no idea how much more difficult dating has become and I am facing the reality of being on my own for the foreseeable future, and what feels like could be forever.

I am turning 40 shortly, but look around 10 years younger (everyone comments on this - from my opticians, to a doctor who refused to do any botox on me) and I am a fun and lovely person. I mention this not because I am vain, but because I do get a lot of attention on the dating apps.

Yet the men I am meeting on the dating apps aren't anywhere near that I would normally consider, I am trying to be open minded. Not only that, I am then rejected after a few dates, as I don't have sex with them or I do have sex with them! It all seems to be about sex for them, the chemistry etc. Not about connection and developing something meaningful it seems. I feel like a piece of meat.

It never used to be like this before, I always found a boyfriend within 6 months of online dating in the past, and had long term relationships. It's a totally different landscape now and I am feeling petrified that I am not going to meet anyone and it's game over.

I am a balanced and rational person, and a realist, and always thought I'd meet someone if I give it time, put in the effort etc it's a number game. Now I have no faith and it's really starting to affect my life. Has anyone else been in the same position? How do you come out of this? My life is good - I have a great job, lots of hobbies, family, friends etc. But I want a partner and ideally a family of some kind. What do I do? I feel nobody wants a relationship anymore.

OP posts:
datingqss · 25/05/2024 22:16

notanotherrokabag · 25/05/2024 22:15

OK fine. Keep going OP, it'll all be great, you'll find an amazing man and have loads of kids with him.

Disgusting.

OP posts:
Crepester · 25/05/2024 22:21

datingqss · 25/05/2024 22:15

Crepester thank you for sharing and your positivity
I am glad you found someone - how did you meet?

You’re so welcome!

thanks - I met him on Hinge actually! 😆

It’s a far smaller pool than Tinder so you tend to get far less likes than Tinder/Bumble but I found it a lot better overall. Quality over quantity basically. But I do have a couple of friends who are happily married to Tinder dates but it just wasn’t the app for me.

Other 35+ women I know have met their OH on holiday or through mutual friends at parties/bbqs or at church.

datingqss · 25/05/2024 22:22

Crepester so lovely to hear. where abouts in the country do you all live?

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Crepester · 25/05/2024 22:26

datingqss · 25/05/2024 22:22

Crepester so lovely to hear. where abouts in the country do you all live?

I’m in the north-west near Manchester but my office is in London and I go to Scotland a lot so I’ve matched with people all over the UK using Hinge.

My friends I’m thinking of live in the areas I’ve mentioned above too. One of my friends who married her tinder date lives in Brighton.

datingqss · 25/05/2024 22:28

Crepester and roughly when did you all meet your partners? relatively recently?

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Crepester · 25/05/2024 22:32

datingqss · 25/05/2024 22:28

Crepester and roughly when did you all meet your partners? relatively recently?

Yes in the past 1-3 years and we were all 35 -42.

btw, if you watch videos on youtube about ‘older’ women having pregnancies and you read the comment sections it’s so encouraging!

I know it doesn’t happen for everyone, but videos like that obviously attract women who it DID happen for and it’s nice to see comments like “I’m 44 and we just had our first child who is happy & healthy”

SheilaFentiman · 25/05/2024 22:45

OP, I am curious - if you are prepared to freeze embryos with donor sperm, why not go through pregnancy now with donor sperm? That would seem to have the best chance of success.

datingqss · 25/05/2024 22:47

SheilaFentiman · 25/05/2024 22:45

OP, I am curious - if you are prepared to freeze embryos with donor sperm, why not go through pregnancy now with donor sperm? That would seem to have the best chance of success.

No difference between fresh and frozen IVF. So no rush.

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datingqss · 25/05/2024 22:49

Crepester · 25/05/2024 22:32

Yes in the past 1-3 years and we were all 35 -42.

btw, if you watch videos on youtube about ‘older’ women having pregnancies and you read the comment sections it’s so encouraging!

I know it doesn’t happen for everyone, but videos like that obviously attract women who it DID happen for and it’s nice to see comments like “I’m 44 and we just had our first child who is happy & healthy”

Edited

Wow that's encouraging to hear you all met recently. Thanks for sharing.

Yes - there are plenty of women having babies in early to mid 40s and even beyond. I'll check out YouTube. There's loads of FB groups too. Naturally, as well as with donor sperm, donor eggs etc. Also adoption etc. There are plenty of ways to have a family over the age of 40.

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Crepester · 25/05/2024 22:55

Yes I used to work with children in care, adoption is a great choice for the right people. I’d like to do long term foster care placements in the future.

Deargodletitgo · 25/05/2024 23:59

I'm 50, met someone on tinder two years ago, after having a few dates with others off and on since my divorce at 46.

As for kids, has my first at 35, second at 40, took only a few months each time to get pregnant. If there's no underlying fertility issues I think getting pregnant when older isn't quite the miracle it's pprtrated to be

Orangeandgold · 26/05/2024 00:41

My mum remarried at 49 to a man she met 2 years prior at a wedding. She went through a period of going to weddings, parties/dinners, church events and there were a few people. However the older we are, the more we carry (exes, children etc).

I Janet my partner through OLD but there were loads of strange people. It’s hard to filter through but don’t settle for anything less and focus on a decent friendship - I found a majority on dating apps didn’t want that.

Maybe be more intentional when you meet a nice guy by getting to know them a little.

It’s really not too late and you can five other things to do to feel less lonely.,

Lookingforunicorns · 26/05/2024 01:01

Your best bet would be to try IVF with donor egg and donor sperm. That would give you the best chance of achieving a pregnancy.
The conception rates quoted by the London clinics need to be taken with a huge pick of salt. The success rates with your own eggs in your 40s are very low.
I would just crack on with this TBH rather than focusing on dating.
It's not you, it's the men on offer in this age range.

Redruby2020 · 26/05/2024 01:01

Epidote · 24/05/2024 13:59

I think is easier to find a partner when younger because between the fun there is a planning of a future together.
At forty that future is our present and it is not that easy to find someone that fits in it.
Also maturity gives you a new perspective of what do you want, at the end of the day we have been here nearly half of the race, so we don't feel the nerves and the joy of the beginning or the exhaustion of the end. We just run.

Online dating is not for everyone and as I heard you need to go in like in a game. You gamble when you date, like a lottery ticket, you may win or you may not, you keep on till either you had enough or you find that someone.
Patience and not taking it personal would be my advice for you if you want to actively look for someone.
Other than that, Good luck.

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So well said! So much of what I was going to say.
It is totally different now to before.
And it's not just about meeting someone who is suitable even if not in age. Because then it's like right, what are we doing. Because you don't plan or think about things the same way.
In the past it was there if you wanted it.

Plus there is all this talk of how a relationship should be. But people dissect things too much I think.
To me having a dc etc, to be seeing someone for me that means seeing them weekends possibly in the week if time. And that dynamic changing if they meet my dc and are possibly going to come to our home etc.
I've got a friend who i know means well, and it's because of how she wanted her relationship to be and it's not.
But she will say oh you need to go out do stuff together when I've been seeing someone.
True even if just for the sake of it.
But as that's only been on weekends then it's not the whole weekend, and so when things have been new obviously we have been excited and want to spend time catching up on lost time if you know what I mean.

The main thing for me now has been age and having a child, plus that I don't want any more. Otherwise you see all these guys with women who already have kids but younger and it seems to work. Plus that they have more of a future with that women in most cases I have noticed they go on to have kids of their own together.

Maybe I am wrong but I have seen a lot of examples. And I don't see men getting with women and becoming serious take on their child/ren and play happy families without something in it for the man.

Redruby2020 · 26/05/2024 01:05

FairyCakesss · 24/05/2024 14:13

Yes I'm in this situation but for different reasons. Lone parent, no one to have the kids for me to even be able to date no family and they don't see their father. Been single for 7 years since 28 now 35. Haven't even had sex for 7 years feel like life is over for me now and extremely lonely.

Omg you've lost a lot of your younger years, and this makes me mad with the men that get to go off and live their lives, whilst the women are stuck!
I had gaps and also had lots of things going on that was more important at the time.
Then started chatting online in 2021 and that got things rolling again. Then contact was sorted out with father so dc is not always with me. And I started going out etc.
I can't imagine not having had sex for that long.

Can you get any baby sitter so you can get out

FairyCakesss · 26/05/2024 01:41

Redruby2020 · 26/05/2024 01:05

Omg you've lost a lot of your younger years, and this makes me mad with the men that get to go off and live their lives, whilst the women are stuck!
I had gaps and also had lots of things going on that was more important at the time.
Then started chatting online in 2021 and that got things rolling again. Then contact was sorted out with father so dc is not always with me. And I started going out etc.
I can't imagine not having had sex for that long.

Can you get any baby sitter so you can get out

yes unfortunately it's the way it is but I wouldn't leave my children with anyone I didn't know personally.

KitKatChunki · 26/05/2024 01:44

Men on dating sites tend to be the ones after hook ups ime. Find a hobby and meet people in the wild. Better still recognise the freedom of not being lied to and stay single!

Deargodletitgo · 26/05/2024 04:45

Some of us do like the idea of regular sex, someone who has our back and share those Meal for Two meals deals.

I think dating does take a sense of humour, and if you go into it looking for the worst in people, you will find it. I had a couple who I liked who it turned out either ghosted or turned out to be only after someone to practice their kinks on...but take it as all part of this great learning experience called life and get on with it. We tell kids to be resilient, this is the same.

Comms85 · 26/05/2024 10:10

@notanotherrokabag I agree, I'm 43 and last dated a 37 year old but he was open to kids and so he only saw me as a FWB and he basically breadcrumbed me for those few months that we did see each other.

Comms85 · 26/05/2024 10:14

@datingqss the last 4 guys I met online were open to having kids and didn't have any and were late 30s. I think I need to set a boundary where I'm only dating people who don't want kids or have them and don't want more

SheilaFentiman · 26/05/2024 10:15

datingqss · 25/05/2024 22:47

No difference between fresh and frozen IVF. So no rush.

On that, I would have thought sooner rather than later would be better for your body to go through pregnancy and early years. And secondly, if you are going the sperm donor/embryo route, better to do it and then date later? Otherwise you are potentially going through pregnancy and birth in a pretty new relation up with someone who isn’t the father and had nothing to do with your decision to have a kid.

Comms85 · 26/05/2024 10:19

@datingqss just to add , my cousin is 39 , doesn't have children and wants them and she has been dating a guy she met on Bumble for about 3 months now and it's going well.
I hope you meet someone really great who deserves you as you sound lovely 💐

Disturbia81 · 26/05/2024 10:30

Sunnytwobridges · 24/05/2024 14:40

I'm in the same situation been single for ten years, now I'm 53 and not so attractive anymore. I know deep down I will not find anyone, as I've been dating for decades and have only met two men that I ever clicked with. I know at this stage of life I wont find anyone and sometimes it really makes me sad, especially when everyone I know is coupled up. Trying to come to terms with it and accept now.

I know people who have met in 60s/70s/80s but not online dating, just joining activities with other people of that age group. 53 is most certainly not too late!

Disturbia81 · 26/05/2024 10:45

Superlambaanana · 25/05/2024 22:06

I hear you OP. I'm single after coming out of a LTR nearly two years ago. I feel I wasted my chance at ever having a lasting LTR because of the 10 years I was with him. I was tripping over offers 12 years ago and now I've tipped into later middle age, I've become invisible to men. They want to date younger women and by date, I mean 'have sex with'. As far as I can tell men only want either sex or a carer, ideally someone who does both.

I did have a couple of happy years with my ex, but it I ended up staying in an unhappy, and latterly abusive relationship for at least 6 years longer than I should have.

He was so lovely at first. Caring and adored me. Perhaps it was love bombing. I'm afraid now of going into another relationship because I believe firmly that all men are basically selfish, immature, out for what they can get and abusive when they don't get what they want. They just hide it well at the beginning when they want sex.

Almost all men go off their partner eventually - because men really only fancy young women and well, we age! So they turn cold and unresponsive or worse, turn nasty or cheat. I see it in pretty much all my friends and family. Wife continues to do everything for him, including being kind and loving, as well as housework, cooking, etc. He just does the hobbies and chores he enjoys and sniggers with his mates about hot young women.

MN records the worst of them - constant stream of stories about men cheating, abusing, refusing to pay childcare, being cold and entitled.

It's a shitshow. And yet we're programmed to want them and by the time we get to our 40s and 50s we're left feeling like pariahs if we're single.

It really is a man's fucking world.

True for the grim men but definitely not all. I know many men who still can't take their eyes off their aging wives and vice versa.
But sadly too many of them are the grim type

crackofdoom · 26/05/2024 10:53

Superlambaanana · 25/05/2024 22:06

I hear you OP. I'm single after coming out of a LTR nearly two years ago. I feel I wasted my chance at ever having a lasting LTR because of the 10 years I was with him. I was tripping over offers 12 years ago and now I've tipped into later middle age, I've become invisible to men. They want to date younger women and by date, I mean 'have sex with'. As far as I can tell men only want either sex or a carer, ideally someone who does both.

I did have a couple of happy years with my ex, but it I ended up staying in an unhappy, and latterly abusive relationship for at least 6 years longer than I should have.

He was so lovely at first. Caring and adored me. Perhaps it was love bombing. I'm afraid now of going into another relationship because I believe firmly that all men are basically selfish, immature, out for what they can get and abusive when they don't get what they want. They just hide it well at the beginning when they want sex.

Almost all men go off their partner eventually - because men really only fancy young women and well, we age! So they turn cold and unresponsive or worse, turn nasty or cheat. I see it in pretty much all my friends and family. Wife continues to do everything for him, including being kind and loving, as well as housework, cooking, etc. He just does the hobbies and chores he enjoys and sniggers with his mates about hot young women.

MN records the worst of them - constant stream of stories about men cheating, abusing, refusing to pay childcare, being cold and entitled.

It's a shitshow. And yet we're programmed to want them and by the time we get to our 40s and 50s we're left feeling like pariahs if we're single.

It really is a man's fucking world.

Ah c'mon now. There are plenty of lonely, sad men in their 50s too. Problem is, most of them are understandably single, but don't seem able to understand what they need to do to improve themselves to attract a girlfriend, while women in their 50s have done all the work, are a much better proposition, yet struggle to find their equals.