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Should I be concerned, or have I lost the plot?

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Downtoyou · 22/05/2024 10:20

I left my husband in June after simply falling out of love, he was initially heartbroken but has since said it was the right decision and we have been very amicable.

In August our teenage son was diagnosed with stage 3 cancer and I took sick leave to look after him full time. The day after we were told he was sadly terminal, my husband went up to his home town for 4 days saying he needed to sort out paperwork with his mum. I was upset with this and when he returned I told him that I was disappointed that he left me with our devastated children to deal with the news, he apologised. Unfortunately our son passed away at the end of April and 2 days after my husband went up north again for 4 days and left me and our daughter with no support. For context, we are an army family and so I only live here due to my marriage and my family are also up north. We had our son's Celebration of Life on Friday and on Monday he went up north again, my sister travelled up with him in the car and he told her about his new girlfriend who he met in March but didn't give her name.

I asked my daughter if she new about dad's girlfriend and she said she just knew that her name is Anne (not real name). I said that's funny because he went out with an Anne years ago. My daughter already knew how Anne was a girl he went out with when we had a 2 year break from our relationship in our twenties. He told me she would kick, bite, slap and spit on him. He pushed her once in self defence and she called the police on him and he was arrested. When he was taken to the police station they were concerned about his injuries and he was taken to hospital. She caused damage to his car, would constantly phone his mother and demand to know where he was, made up stories about him and he lost all his friends. Whenever he tried to end the relationship she would threaten to kill herself. She was eventually kicked out of the army due to drugs and we got back together, got married and had our family and she has always hated me for that. She would message him occasionally and he would tell her to fuck off. Everything I know about her is what he has told me through the years, and he has received therapy for the trauma.

On Monday he was with her, and my husband blocked me out of the blue on all social media and WhatsApp. We had had a discussion just that morning regarding the collection of our son's ashes. He sent an email that evening saying this is how we communicate from now on and told me he wouldn't be paying me a penny for anything. I responded asking where has this all come from and that he will have to pay maintenance etc and that I was sorry it had come to this.

I told my sister his girlfriend's name is Anne, she contacted my husband to say thanks for the lift and asked if his new girlfriend is the ex girlfriend and he said yes, she's changed, they've talked everything through and she's a lovely person now. My sister looked her up on FB and she has written a FB status about me, calling me a crazy person who sends crazy emails and how her and her gorgeous new boyfriend had spent the morning laughing about it, this woman is around my age - 40! It doesn't seem like she has changed at all. This was on the day I got my son's ashes.

The reason I am writing here is that I am concerned. He would never in a million years go back to her, but yet he has, just as he is going through the worst time in his life. He's blocked all my family, our daughter is unhappy that he has gone back to someone who has treated him so badly and he doesn't seem to care. He wants them to meet, and I have said no. Am I being unreasonable? Our daughter is 17 and has said she can't have a relationship with her dad when he is with her. I am worried that his self-esteem is on the floor and I spoke to his brother with my concerns and he just said people grow and change. Do they?

I am so heartbroken. I am grieving the loss of my son and now the only other person who understands and was there with us while he took his last breath won't communicate with me. I don't think he's thinking straight. Is there even anything I can do? Should I be doing anything or should I let him get on with it? Am I right to be so concerned or is my grief clouding my judgement? My husband is normally a good man, I just can't believe this is happening.

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EnglishBluebell · 24/05/2024 21:12

Downtoyou · 24/05/2024 20:22

It's just so sad. This time last week we were following my son's coffin as a family, today I have had to apply for child maintenance.

I have had a screenshot from the new girlfriend's FB page calling me Martha from Baby Reindeer, saying how hysterical it is. SBExH and I have exchanged a few emails today regarding money (he's cancelled everything) and has once again showed her them. I have told friend not to send the screenshots, if I can't see them then they won't affect me. She has people liking and commenting, if only they knew what I was going through, they would think she is a bitch.

I am so sorry for your loss. I have thankfully not lost a child and I realise that is behind all of this, but the nasty new girlfriend and the Facebook posts with people agreeing what a 'nutter' I am for absolutely nothing at all - been there. Trust me, it will not last. The thrill of this 'naughty' thing they're doing, won’t last long at all.
I presume your DD isn't having any further contact with him? I certainly hope so. She should be supporting you.

I'd put your own Facebook post up and then block his email address as well. Cut ALL contact. Your DC is an adult now. Let him realise what the reality is of his new choice. What a prick

EnglishBluebell · 24/05/2024 21:16

@Downtoyou Again, not suggesting for a second that any of what I've been through comes close to your grief. Never. But this ex is the father (not DF, just F) of my DC and he had the audacity to allow his psycho girlfriend to post on Facebook what a 'mistake' our DD was and then he LIKED IT.
That feeling of helplessness mixed with abject ANGER is one I never ever want to experience again and to add the absolute worst grief a human can ever endure, on top of that.... Oh OP. I just wish I could give you a big hug 🫂 and I really hope you have amazing support right now and are never alone 🤍🤍🤍

Mxflamingnoravera · 24/05/2024 21:21

Ffs, how dare she do that. I'm livid for you. Comparing you, his wife, to a psychopath stalker just days after the death of your shared child. Stay well away, go through the Legal route for child maintenance for money for your daughter (is she under 18?).

They are being too cruel. You must protect yourself from this cruelty.

Inthedeep · 24/05/2024 22:09

I’m so sorry for the loss of your lovely boy, I can’t imagine what you are going through. I’m assuming your ExH is going through some kind of mental breakdown/self-destruction, but that’s not an excuse for his vile treatment of you and ultimately it isn’t your problem to sort. At the moment you need to focus on you and your daughter and do what you need to do to get through the day. I really hope grief counselling will give you some help and that you have a strong family support base.

If you can afford it avoid all contact with your ex even through email and only communicate via a solicitor. I know it might seem extreme, but ‘Anne’ is obviously pulling his strings and hopefully this will minimise the ways they can hurt you.

with regards to the Facebook posts, can you get a friend or relative to monitor them without giving you any feedback? Get them to keep screenshots etc just in case they are needed down the line. However unless absolutely necessary ask them not to tell you if she posts anything or what she posts.

Secondstart1001 · 24/05/2024 22:52

She’s shown herself to be the exact scum
you described to us op.

She is utter trash.

It is normal to want to grieve as a family despite you being separated as your loss should be the same. And also support your daughter in this truely awful time.

I don’t think your ex H is dealing with the grief in a healthy way but not concerned about him!
Please don’t give them anymore headspace, you don’t need this torment ( I am reeling on your behalf!).

Downtoyou · 25/05/2024 17:00

Interestingly, someone has commented on her Martha Facebook post, 'how have you managed to get yourself another stalker?' And Anne has replied, 'just another crazy ex stalking me.' So, she clearly has form for this.

Anyway, my daughter has made it clear to her dad that she doesn't know how to have a relationship with him while he is having a relationship with her, and she has left it at that.

I have decided no more contact with him. He is in the army so I will go to the welfare office this week and request mediation. I need to be divorced from this prick as soon as possible.

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Downtoyou · 25/05/2024 17:03

Oh, and I have made an application through Clare's Law because I am worried about her meeting my daughter. She posted a photo of some flowers my ex sent her on Facebook with her address on full show, so it was easy to do,

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Secondstart1001 · 25/05/2024 18:42

She is a truely awful woman … living out her life through social media and needing the validation of others while exploiting your family. It’s clear you need to protect you DD and yourself. I’m so sorry you are going through this when you really need to just have space to grieve your son.

Downtoyou · 26/05/2024 11:36

It appears they have both closed their Facebook accounts. Unfortunately she is now posting on TikTok about me. Somebody has actually commented saying they know her new man and his family and she should show some compassion as they just lost their son. What a horrible, vile person she is.

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worryworrysuperscurry · 26/05/2024 13:14

I think the advice to ask your friend to keep screenshots in case they are needed, but not to pass them on to you now is wise. This woman obviously has form. She won't have changed either, and I wouldn't be happy with your daughter being anywhere near her.

Downtoyou · 06/06/2024 14:36

Well things have escalated and although I haven't retaliated in any way, she started posting threats towards me and I have contacted the police.

I didn't expect them to take me seriously but they said 2 or more posts are seen as harassment, I have 12 screenshots that I have uploaded to them.

My husband continues to defend her. He is angry that I have gone through child maintenance and has been told he needs to pay me £500 per month. He's emailed saying he will compromise and pay £300. Can he do this? I told him to contact CMS in the hope that they won't entertain it.

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Secondstart1001 · 06/06/2024 17:16

I am glad you reported her to the police, enough is enough!
And don’t worry about the cps, they will not budge and may even end up giving you more.
Sorry you are going through this at the saddest of times, you need time to grieve in peace not engage with these pathetic people.
I hope you and your daughter are getting support in real life. Xx

Downtoyou · 06/06/2024 19:25

She's a comedian apparently. She posted that she is working on new material all about me. Can I do anything about this?

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Secondstart1001 · 06/06/2024 19:49

This also needs to be reported to the police. She is sick bit obviously sees you as a threat. No normal person behaves how she is.

Downtoyou · 06/06/2024 19:58

There is definitely something wrong with her. I have just had a screenshot from a friend from her TikTok saying, and I quote, 'if you don't like what I write stop stallking my tictock an having an opinion if you lie on me ill tell the truth about you know that Martha kathey bates....'

I literally have no idea what she is on about

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EnglishBluebell · 06/06/2024 20:29

She's calling you the name of the woman on Baby Reindeer (I think)

Secondstart1001 · 06/06/2024 20:35

Yes Martha is from baby reindeer and there is also a film where Kathy Bates played a stalker too .. name escapes me but yes agree with pp.

Redshoeblueshoe · 06/06/2024 20:45

I am so sorry, this is dreadful

DoingJustFine · 06/06/2024 21:02

I’m really so sorry about your son.

No, your STBEX can’t haggle with CMS.

Downtoyou · 06/06/2024 21:38

I knew about the Martha reference, but wasn't sure who Kathy Bates is.

My husband thinks because he has covered bills for the last few months he gets out of CMS. I told him it doesn't work like that. I haven't been paid much as I have been off work looking after our son through his chemotherapy.

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Secondstart1001 · 06/06/2024 21:40

I think you should it even engage with your H directly, Do it through a solicitor now x

Redshoeblueshoe · 06/06/2024 21:47

Totally agree with SecondStart - just go through solicitors

Hotgirlwinter · 06/06/2024 21:47

No he can’t argue about the maintenance, he pays what they say he has to pay. End of.

Im so sorry for the loss of your son OP, what a terrible time it has been for you and your DD.

I agree with above PP, everything needs to go through a solicitor now. Time to move on with your life and concentrate on your own recovery and being there for your daughter. Dont continue to engage with him.

Motnight · 06/06/2024 22:03

So sorry for your loss, Op, and that you and your DD are now suffering this too

ItsFreedomBabyYeah · 06/06/2024 22:15

Jesus Wept, I am so sorry about your son and now this crazy bitch is around. She sounds unhinged and quite frankly a bit dangerous.

Your ex - well, he is probably grieving and coping with things in his own (unhealthy) way. Leave him to it. I have a funny feeling things will crash and burn with psycho hose beast.

Please look after yourself and your daughter, seek whatever support you can.

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