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Ex coming to talk to me today but

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Nothingsurprisesmeanymoree · 10/04/2024 09:30

I’ll try not to make this a long one. Me and my ex broke up last year. Well he walked out after Christmas leaving me with two kids and no closure. We were together ten years and it was honestly the hardest thing I have ever been through as I didn’t see it coming and he acted so cold towards me and never gave me a talk face to face. He gaslight me over another woman and when left admitted he had cheated a year before. He wants to talk tonight in person but has also told me he talks to the OW but it’s not like that. I need to stay strong as it must be exactly ‘ like’ that.

OP posts:
theworldie · 10/04/2024 13:37

He’s honestly all over the place since he left he’s now got covered in tattoos literally all over his hands like a cry for help. He was saying how he talks to her and it’s good for him basically but stays up at night wondering if he’s made a mistake and that when he sees me now his feelings have changed.

Tough shit. It’s not your problem - and how arrogant of him to assume that he even has a hope in hell of getting back with you now he’s realised his “feelings have changed”. Sounds like he thinks you’re sat at home waiting for him to return. Fuck that!

And a grown-ass father of two going and getting tattoos all over his hands? He sounds like an utter loser.

Nothingsurprisesmeanymoree · 10/04/2024 13:37

theworldie · 10/04/2024 13:32

It’s either not working out with the OW or it’s already over.

So he’s playing nice to get you all soft towards him then he’ll make his love declaration during his “talk” that he still loves you, has never stopped loving you, made a mistake etc etc.

At which point I really hope you will calmly tell him to sling his hook. Actually I wouldn’t even bother allowing him to have his talk with you, I’d just tell him no and that anything to do with the kids can be discussed by text.

Ive seen this play out so many times in RL - the grass often isnt greener and so they weasel their way back into the family home - and the wife who has been doing quite well and making progress with moving on just lets it happen because she is still confused about her feelings for him. Also they often guilt trip the woman into “not breaking up a family”. Just remember that HE is the one who broke up his family and took the piss out of his wife and their marriage.

Don’t do it OP. Don’t go backwards.

This! The hardest part is feeling like I failed. I tuck our kids up at night and they ask why he won’t come home and that when they ask him he ignores them. It breaks my heart but I have to remember this is on him. If he was in anyway remorseful he wouldn’t of carried on off into the sunset with the OW

OP posts:
Epidote · 10/04/2024 13:43

OP, you had said the he is full of himself and lies. Don't listen to his siren songs. Talk about what you have to talk and let him go.
BTW you haven't failed anyone.

LifeExperience · 10/04/2024 13:44

You are not a plaything that your ex can pick up and put down at will.

My ex tried to come back 4 months after he left. I told him "no" and it's the best decision I ever made. He went on to marry the other woman and cheat on her.

Tell your ex that you have no need or desire for a face to face meeting, and that anything he needs to tell you can be by text. Please don't take him back. Cheaters cheat. If you take him back he will do it again, causing you and your children more pain.

theworldie · 10/04/2024 13:48

The hardest part is feeling like I failed

He is the one who shacked up with another woman and left his wife and children at Christmas. How is any of this on you?

To take him back now would be like a form of self-punishment. You would be taking someone back who has treated you with utter contempt. Running off with someone else and then blocking you so he doesn’t have to deal with it. He is a pathetic coward who can’t even try to explain to his children why he left them.

You’ve dome nothing wrong and have been left picking up the pieces of his selfish actions.

This is a clear case of him wanting to have his cake and eat it but now he’s bored and fancies a change again.

A friend of mine went on like this for years with her ex-h - he would flit between her and his OW, usually when he’d argued with her so he’d go back to my friend and the dcs and stay for a week or two until it’s calmed down (and OW was begging him to return) and then he’d bugger off back to OW! I couldn’t for the life of me understand why they both put up with it. He was a total narc and loved the fact he was wanted by two women, and I hated how they both facilitated his ego like that.

Please don’t let him back Op, you will so regret it and you’ll never be able to trust him again. It will also be extremely confusing for your dds - what they need now is a strong mummy who shows them that women shouldn’t accept being treated that way.

solice84 · 10/04/2024 14:00

You'll only be failing if you take him back and set a bad example of what relationships are like for your children , as he WILL do it again and waiting for it will destroy you
Keep tucking the kids in and give them the best life you can
You can't explain it all to them now but when they are adults they will understand and appreciate what you've done for them .

Pumpkinpie1 · 10/04/2024 14:11

DONT meet him.
Hes just not worth it

cerisepanther73 · 10/04/2024 14:15

Some men are either Pricks or Arseholes or both

This one is just the same rest of them as medicore etc

Same boringly tired as ancient as allmost hills 😴 🥱🥱🥱🥱🥱🥱🥱🥱excuses

WishesPromised · 10/04/2024 14:44

He be honest or accountable. Don't waste your time waiting for answers he will never give you. Give up on him and take away his power.

VenetiaHallisWellPosh · 10/04/2024 15:05

Say no, he's not welcome. If it's about the kids and email or text will suffice. If it's about money or your house suggest he sees a solicitor. Don't let him back in.

Ofcourseshecan · 10/04/2024 15:36

I tuck our kids up at night and they ask why he won’t come home and that when they ask him he ignores them.

OP, that is heartbreaking. It hurts me to read it, and I’m a total stranger. Don’t let that POS get another chance to hurt them.

The hardest part is feeling like I failed.
You didn’t fail, you’re still loving and caring for your DC. You’re the best thing in their lives. He is a massive failure.

thelattelover · 10/04/2024 19:52

OP I can resonate in many ways with your situation.
With ex partner over 20 yrs. Teenage sweethearts right up until 2022 when we did go through a rough patch in the relationship after having the kids a year apart. I took post natal depression and I fell apart at the seams to being a new mum to two kids under 2 and with covid and lockdown it put more stress on me. He thought I had fell out of love with him because I was irriated all the time and so depressed and couldn't understand why I wasn't in the mood for being intimate all the time (as I was struggling with how I looked after gaining loads of weight and my beautiful mummy tummy) I felt unattractive.... He thought if I was having sex with him I was getting it somewhere else which made me want to vomit that he'd even suggest such a thing.
After a heated argument where I admit I lost my shit one morning he told me he had enough and he left. For a few weeks we were trying to making things work and I was beginning to see where I failed the relationship myself & it pointed it out numerous times how he felt unloved, unneeded and unwanted so I blamed myself and I still do. In those few weeks he'd been seeing a girl 15 yrs younger and when I found out I was distraught and I admit I went down a rabbit hole of telling him what a bastard he was and pushed him away more, another few weeks later she was pregnant by him and he came to tell me and I just fell to my knees crying. I couldn't believe that I'd a 3 and 4 yr old upstairs sleeping and their dad was telling me he was having a baby with someone else weeks after feeling it was better to leave me.

I cant explain the damage this done to me. We bickered for a few months because I was just all over the place. Until I settled down abd realised I needed to stop reacting because I was causing more damage. When things settled down and we began getting on again he told me he still loved me, we did declare many of our feelings and discussed our shit and he said he regretted walking out that morning I lost my shit but he felt that I didn't love him. She had the baby and they're still together and we're Co parenting the kids well but he has massively broke my heart and honestly I feel ill never get over it. It doesn't help that he's still with her but will tell me he wishes things went differently, because in essence I think we just needed time because we forgot to appreciate one another after we had the kids so quickly and with my pnd and things I think we've both learned where we failed each other.

He still says he loves me, he'll send me videos from tiktok explaining how messed up his head is and while he's saying he loves me ill also get told how he can see a future with her but that I was his everything and he can't let me go and ill not lie I feel the same. We didn't fall out of love we just went through a difficult patch. All the love and emotions are still there between us.
Sometimes I think he's playing with me just to keep me about as a back up but then other times I do see the genuine distress in him that he'd like to come back to his family but he's fucked up because he's now created a family with someone else as well. He looks at it that either way he's destroying one family over the other and he loves me but he's afraid of us going back into old ways where as I suppose with a girl in her mid 20s it's more fun and it's new and fresh and she's obviously smitten over him.

it is all causing me serious damage. I feel like he tore my heart out and stomped all over it. Not because he left, his reasons I understand. But the fact that his side of the bed wasn't even cold and already I was dealing with a younger woman, she was in my kids lives and then her getting pregnant. I feel like I've completely lost myself and I love him and if I'm being honest I'm that lost and broken and hearing my kids crying that they wished daddy would come back would make me go back in a heart beat (no point lying) and the fact he expresses all his emotion to me as well about feeling so conflicted. But today I begining to realise I'm doing myself no favours. The old saying if he they wanted to then they would comes to mind. I think he misses me, I think he still loves me but he's not coming back no matter what he confesses. I'm starting to think I'm just a convience to him, because he knows I'm just at home rearing the children and I've no intention of starting out with anyone else. I don't think it's that the grass isn't greener with this other girl, she's stunning, she's young, she's popular, she's probably everything I'm not.

I think im just familiar to him 😔 and he's afraid of letting go completely. But since he left its been a rollercoaster of emotions getting told he'd love to come back, he thinks about me all the time, he never meant to hurt me or things go as they did and the unplanned pregnancy etc... he wishes he'd took time to see where we both messed up so we could fix it and I wish he'd have done the same instead of breaking me and then leading me down a trail of false hope and with all the blame I'm carrying on myself and the absolute fear I have in myself. I loved him and give him all of myself for 2 decades of my life. I don't think I'll ever allow myself to be that vunerable again to be betrayed and then left to pick up the pieces by myself. Plus the man I loved and built a home and family with not only let me down massively but tells me one minute he loves me and needs me but then goes on about her and how well they get on etc like it's causing me way more damage because now I've pitted myself against her and feel like a failure. I lost my life time lover, best friend and father of my kids to her, he took my whole little world and put it straight into the hands of someone else 😪

You sound like a much stronger woman than I am. I'm soft and a hopeless romantic and my ex knows he's broke me but how much I still love him and how devestated I am that my family has broken up. He claims he's heartbroken too and knows in a heartbeat I'd fix my family if he actually wanted to, but instead he'll quietly admit these feelings to me yet they've now purchased a rented accommodation together and the girl wants to have another baby and get married etc, in fact they're basically living 2 min drive from our house, I've to go past the place every single day to run errands and school runs etc. The man knows he could fix things if that's what he truly wanted and I'm that pathetic I'd allow it but instead he keeps telling me things but still moving on with another life. The damage it has done to me is crazy and I can't just blame him because I've also allowed him to do it, I've allowed myself to be used because I love him and believed him. Please don't fall into the trap I have, I know I only have myself to blame and I've allowed myself to carry the blame for the fact he left and found someone else. It's having serious effects on my mental and physical health because I keep allowing myself to think he'd like to repair stuff when probably in actual reality I'm just convient and familiar but I can't believe how much he has crushed my soul. I honestly don't think I'll ever love again after experiencing this

Nothingsurprisesmeanymoree · 10/04/2024 21:04

Well ladies so he was going to come round an hour ago and I got a message from him saying he’s tired and that he’s done enough work today and not feeling like having a chat now but will come over at 9ish in the morning. This was to also sort out the house and other bits and pieces. I mentally prepared telling myself this is what I need to do. What a fucking coward and waste of space. Do I even respond? I’m so done I’ve finally realised I do not need for him to have some final talk what does he have to say that could possibly help now it’s too late for me to be told the truth about his cheating and too late to sort our relationship out. The universe has sorted this one out I feel. Time to put all that energy back into myself.

OP posts:
solice84 · 10/04/2024 21:07

Oh what a shame you're busy at 9am eh?

Paperthin · 10/04/2024 21:08

Nothingsurprisesmeanymoree · 10/04/2024 13:34

when he left he actually blocked me for a few months so it was emails. He blocked my number too for a while. It really was hard having your partner and best friend cut you off like that but now I see why and I don’t even recognise the man he is now. A small part of me wants to hear him regret it all I know that’s my ego talking but being discarded the way I was just ruined me for a long time. I know bottom line there is no reality in which he becomes a better person and partner. If he was to come back what I would just have to put up with him having a woman on the side nah I’m good thanks. 😂

Your last sentence says it all / hold onto that thought!!

Nothingsurprisesmeanymoree · 10/04/2024 21:13

solice84 · 10/04/2024 21:07

Oh what a shame you're busy at 9am eh?

I’m honestly lost for words do I respond do I just leave it I’m so worn out. I am so sad with myself the months I have wasted consumed by the situation and him only to really understand now he literally doesn’t give me a second thought.

OP posts:
solice84 · 10/04/2024 21:16

Honestly I'd go out somewhere and turn your phone off
He doesn't still have a key does he ?

MadeForThis · 10/04/2024 21:17

Just say you aren't free then. Don't explain why.

Epidote · 10/04/2024 21:20

Tell him you are busy tomorrow and due othe commitment it is going to be difficult to re schedule a good time for you so it is better he send you an email.
Saves you the hassle of see his face and you have his nonsense in written, just in case you need it in the future.

Frostynight · 10/04/2024 21:26

Just respond, that doesn't work for me. If it is urgent, email.

Then ignore any future suggestions to talk in person.

This was a boundary my therapist recommended very early on. There is absolutely no point in discussing anything to do with your relationship with him, and practical stuff is better being sorted by email. Less chance of gaslighting, confusion, pressure etc.

stonedaisy · 10/04/2024 21:27

This whole thing has sent you backwards in your recovery. He's torturing you. He sounds totally mental. If it was me i'd go very low contact about the children / finances only.
Bless you, keep strong, see your therapist, make some nice plans with the kids to look forward to x

BusStopNumber3 · 10/04/2024 21:36

‘I forgot about tonight and am busy tomorrow. You can email regarding daughter / house details.’

FieldInWhichFucksAreGrownIsBarren · 10/04/2024 21:44

I'd either not respond and be out or I'd message back in a bit and say 'No that doesn't work for me, email what you wanted to discuss and I'll reply when I've got time'
You don't need to see him to know he's a waste of space, don't waste another bit of energy on him.

thelattelover · 10/04/2024 21:45

Typical, all has to work around him and what suits him best.
These men don't have a clue. They get to wreck our lives, our hearts, our families just because another bit of vagina fell into their laps! But still think WE should accommodate their needs, wants and feelings and have no remorse for ours.

What is your gut telling you to do op? I'd go with it

LightSpeeds · 10/04/2024 21:47

He's probably out of women options so is crawling back.

Sorry, but you'd probably end up getting badly hurt so don't get involved with him again. He's shown his true colours.