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Friend withheld important information from me..illegally evicted.. Feel so hurt

96 replies

Poppiesanddaffodils · 31/03/2024 21:07

Wonder if anyone might offer their opinion on this situation please. Please bear with me. I will get to the point. I was living with my young family and husband in rented accommodation beside a neighbour for about 6 years. During this time my neighbour became what I considered a friend. She often arrived at my door unannounced, text me, sent me photos, arranged to meet up and we often attended events together. I struggle to trust others but felt that this lady was honest and kind and I felt that I could confide in her over a number of things. She also confided in me about different things.

About 18 months ago, our landlord said that they were moving back into our rental property and gave us notice to leave our rental on this basis. My husband and I sought to buy and find alternative rental properties in the area and searched daily for over a year. We were almost on the verge of registering as homeless when at the final moment before our notice ran out, we found another property.

During this time, my neighbour ie. this lady would often text me and call to me to enquire about whether we had found anywhere to move to. She knew the enormous stress that we were under and the difficulties we were facing as there is a huge shortage of accommodation in our area. I cried to her on occasion as the pressure was too much and I was dealing with a long term illness too amongst other things that I'd prefer not to say here.

When we moved out a few months ago, we promised to stay in touch and meet up when things had settled.

We have since found out from another neighbour who we bumped into purely by accident and who we didn't know too well that our former rental property is now being rented to another person (it was RE rented 1 month after we left) and our landlords did not move back in.

We were excellent tenants and had paid our rent on time and in full so it's very hard to hear that it now looks like we have been subject to an illegal eviction by our landlord which we will deal with separately.

What hurts the most though is that this lady who I considered my friend lives next door to our former rental house and has yet to tell me that the house is now rented to someone else. We had been texting frequently over the past few months since we moved out and in my last text to her I asked her out straight if our landlords had moved in yet. She replied to everything else in my text but not to this question which I found do strange as she is normally quite precise with her replies. I am starting to feel very suspicious now. I do not know why she is reluctant to share this information with me. It would be perfectly obvious to her that someone else was living at our old address and indeed 8 expressed concerns with her at one stage that I really hoped the landlords were not lying to us and evicting us under false pretences.

We could sue the landlord for an illegal eviction but what hurts so much is that she knew the hell we had been through trying to find another home for our young children and seems to have chosen not to share information with us that we have been evicted under false pretences. I'd understand if she was someone who kept too herself but the fact that she was active in pursuing a friendship with me (or so I thought) and constantly asking me to meet up with her etc. My husband says not to let it bother me and go let it go as she wasn't a true friend and I only had coffee with her a few times a year.. but I think I valued her friendship more than she did mine and I feel sick to think that she is withholding information from me now. I know that if she was in the same position I'd certainly have told her. Please be kind in sharing your views but I'd appreciate your honesty also on if you think I'm overreacting. Thank you.

OP posts:
WallaceinAnderland · 31/03/2024 21:53

What do you was illegal about the eviction OP?

CheeryPye · 31/03/2024 21:57

You don't even know who the new tenants are. It could be the landlords children. Private rental is insecure. They can ask for their property back. It's just the way it is unfortunately.

HonorGold · 31/03/2024 21:58

I thought you were going to say that this neighbour moved into your old property or somehow had something to do with the illegal eviction. But all she seems to have done is not tell you something awful which she probably thought was kinder to you. She didn’t even lie when you asked here, she just omitted the info. You anger is misdirected. Tell her you know and I’m sure she will be relieved. Then can get your friendship back on track

CheeryPye · 31/03/2024 21:59

So anyway, for anyone catching up the neighbour didn't withold anything and there was no illegal eviction.

The end.

MiltonNorthern · 31/03/2024 22:05

How were you illegally evicted? The landlord gave you notice and you left voluntarily no?

Roryhon · 31/03/2024 22:07

Surely she was just protecting your feelings? She knows you’d be upset. She knows that you knowing won’t change anything. She knows you are safely housed elsewhere..

JimBobsWife · 31/03/2024 22:11

Yes but @Mamananny that's not actually an illegal eviction

JimBobsWife · 31/03/2024 22:13

If the OP was served a section 21, the LL is under no obligation to provide a reason. Even if they had used moving back in as an excuse, it's still not an illegal eviction.

Mamananny · 31/03/2024 22:16

JimBobsWife · 31/03/2024 22:11

Yes but @Mamananny that's not actually an illegal eviction

I'm just saying that's what OP is saying. That she believes it was false pretences as they didn't actually move out. 🥴

DinosaursAreMyLife · 31/03/2024 22:22

Your friend has done absolutely nothing wrong. If you were my friend, and you had spent a year sobbing with stress, I wouldn't tell you either. Why cause pain?! There is literally nothing you can do about it.

What on earth do you think her motives are?

Delphina17 · 31/03/2024 22:30

Mamananny · 31/03/2024 22:16

I'm just saying that's what OP is saying. That she believes it was false pretences as they didn't actually move out. 🥴

It doesn't matter what the reasons were. She wasn't evicted. She was given notice and left. There's nothing illegal about that.

JimBobsWife · 31/03/2024 22:36

@Mamananny you said 'I think a landlord has more rights to evict a family if they want to move back in themselves. But they lied about that, which they didn't know till after they left.'

A landlord doesn't have more rights in this situation. There is discussion under the Renters Reform Act that this would be introduced but at the moment S21 is still a so-called no fault eviction

Crazycrazylady · 31/03/2024 22:36

Honestly it's strange that the majority of your ire is directed at your neighbour who is pretty blameless in all this. 1) your landlord's circumstance could have changed and he gave notice and you left. He can simply say his plans fell through. 2) your neighbour may simply assume these people are related to your landlord or are owners or b didn't see the point in upsetting you.
Either way you need to move on and make your peace with it. Sometimes Having to move is one of downsides of renting .

MississippiAF · 31/03/2024 22:39

This isn’t an illegal eviction.

Neighbour has done nothing wrong.

Mamananny · 31/03/2024 22:42

Delphina17 · 31/03/2024 22:30

It doesn't matter what the reasons were. She wasn't evicted. She was given notice and left. There's nothing illegal about that.

I'm not saying there is!

I'm just explaining her train of thought. Right or wrong!

saraclara · 31/03/2024 22:44

Your friend has done absolutely nothing wrong. If you were my friend, and you had spent a year sobbing with stress, I wouldn't tell you either. Why cause pain?! There is literally nothing you can do about it.

That. I wouldn't have told you either. It would only upset you and serve no purpose.
And again, there's no reason for her to know that the new neighbours aren't the landlord or his family.

Lighteningstrikes · 31/03/2024 22:44

I think you’re very likely jumping to conclusions.

Your landlord probably simply changed their mind and I should think your neighbour didn’t want to upset you and add insult to injury.

You’ll probably find she’ll choose a good time to tell you once the dust has settled and you’ve settled into your new home.

Echobelly · 31/03/2024 22:45

Sorry this happened to you - it is an unfair situation if they were just doing it to put up rent for new tenants (as others have said, you don't know if LL's situation changed or it's family/friends living there), but it's not illegal and there's no reason to believe the neighbour wronged you.

DrJoanAllenby · 31/03/2024 22:47

You are very intense. I can see why she chose not to answer your question about the landlord moving back in or not.

Why subject her to scrutiny?

dimllaishebiaith · 31/03/2024 22:49

How would she even recognise your landlord and therefore know that someone else had moved in?

FiveShelties · 31/03/2024 22:53

I thought you were going to say that your neighbour owned the property.

No idea why you are blaming her - I would have done the same thing to try and protect you from being upset and stressed.

Therealjudgejudy · 31/03/2024 22:54

Your neighbour did nothing wrong....its completely bizarre that you think she did to be honest.

ThreeFeetTall · 31/03/2024 22:57

Landlords have the right (In England) to evict someone without a reason as long as procedures were followed. The tories said they would end this but they haven't.
Not an illegal eviction.
Don't fall out with your friend over this

Atethehalloweenchocs · 31/03/2024 23:26
  1. I think you are assuming a level of knowledge on her part which may not be there - most people are so engaged with living their own lives that being able to understand all the ins and outs of your stress may be beyond her.
  2. She may not know the ins and outs of eviction.
  3. She is a bystander in an awkward position - she still has to live next to this LLs house. It is not reasonable to ask her to put herself out for you when you have somewhere else to live.
As PP has said, you are taking your anger out on the wrong person here.
Frangipanyoul8r · 31/03/2024 23:39

Does she even know?! It took me 4 years of living next door to our neighbours to realise they were tenants and didn’t own the house. I never met the landlord.

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