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Could you forgive being called these names in an argument?

89 replies

Baywatch60 · 23/03/2024 12:55

I have currently decided to separate from H
The other night was the third time he stopped low in an argument. In the phone he called me fat, ugly slag and that my vagina stinks. I told him not to return home and he’s stayed away. He’s apologised saying he was just angry but I can’t forgive this time. I am no way fat or ugly so I just can’t believe he said it, again. I feel horrible but am pretending I am fine. Aibu?

OP posts:
theduchessofspork · 23/03/2024 20:50

5128gap · 23/03/2024 20:07

Only men who hate women tell them their private parts stink. It's such a specifically misogynist insult from a man with a deeply rooted disgust and abhorrence for women. You are so well rid of this ....person.

And this too.

He’s fucked up and will only get worse

LifeExperience · 23/03/2024 20:52

You're not going mad. He's a disgusting, rude, immature twat.

Acornsoup · 23/03/2024 21:02

Not acceptable ever.

Gettingonmygoat · 23/03/2024 21:16

He has shown his true colours. Divorce him.

Mountainclimber50 · 23/03/2024 21:18

He is a putrid excuse of a human being.

Glad you have dumped him.

Enjoy your life.

Mmhmmn · 24/03/2024 00:16

Do you have people you can tell IRL OP? About what he is really like and what he has done, again. Family/friends? This isn’t your shame. It is entirely his and if you have anyone you can tell IRL, tell them. Don’t keep his vicious, nasty behaviour a secret for him. You need to get him out of your life.

Pinkbonbon · 24/03/2024 00:45

Nope. I don't keep men who hate women anywhere near me. And anyone who speaks to a woman like that, hates all women.

kkloo · 24/03/2024 00:49

Absolutely vile pig.
He used those words to try to inflict as much damage as possible.
Unforgivable.

Copperoliverbear · 24/03/2024 00:55

There would be no forgiveness from me ever and if he started again when I told him he is 100% not coming back I'd say I don't want to be with you, you are a fat, ugly cunt with a small cock, he'd probably keep thinking about that, they hate to think they have small bits.

Scarramoosh · 24/03/2024 01:03

You're fat, ugly and smell!

That's the argument a 6 Yr old puts forward when they can't think of anything else to say. Basically, an infantile tantrum. Totally pathetic and lacks any emotional intelligence whatsoever.

Ewww 🤢

Catoo · 24/03/2024 01:18

You’re definitely being unreasonable if you doubt that you should LTB

TheGreatGherkin · 24/03/2024 03:54

It's a very common tactic with men who are so inarticulate that they are unable to argue their case without using physical or sexual slurs. It is meant to shut you up. Get rid of this abusive oxygen thief.

GingerScallop · 24/03/2024 03:59

You let them slide twice. To him you were giving him permission. It will only get worse. In any case how can you ever be intimate with a person who says this to you?

By the way, it's not childish. It's misogynistic!

Newestname002 · 24/03/2024 07:01

Baywatch60 · 23/03/2024 13:19

I let those comments slide the first two times but this time I can’t. I’ve lost all respect and I don’t want him anywhere near me. Glad I’m not going mad.

He’s apologised saying he was just angry but I can’t forgive this time. I am no way fat or ugly so I just can’t believe he said it, again. I feel horrible but am pretending I am fine. Aibu?

You are not at all unreasonable - quite the opposite, since you gave him another chance. Noe's your time to think about how your future should look, do your research and put your plans in place to leave him behind. 🌹

Autienotnaughtie · 24/03/2024 07:12

I would say "well you are better off with out me then" and carry on with ending the relationship.

thesangriapeople · 24/03/2024 07:13

He sounds delightful!

Is he always like this? How awful. I certainly wouldn't put up with that, those word would never leave my husbands mouth!

Xenoi24 · 24/03/2024 07:55

You've given him two chances to stop, he didn't stop.

I suspect he'd be back doing it sooner or later if you forgave him this time again too.

Even if he didn't; it's line crossing stuff.

I'd be interested to see how comfortable he'd be in your relationship if you'd retaliated with "you are ugly/fat/short for a man/low earning/have a small dick/your dick and balls smell" etc.

Xenoi24 · 24/03/2024 08:04

I was in a relationship with a verbal abuser (during arguments ...well in retrospect a lot of them were attacks rather than arguments)

...he didn't stoop as low as your stbx, but his behaviour was part of a wider picture of severe immaturity, lack of development/stunted development emotionally, mentally/maybe a personal disorder. I realised in retrospect that even though he was mid 40s and a father, he was deeply immature and undeveloped and unregulated...lacks emotional regulation, in many ways.

Point scoring/getting emotional "hits" on you was more important than anything else at the time ... Including honesty, perspective, the future of the relationship etc. He expected all this to be dismissed as not being meant .... So because he would say pretty much anything to score points during an "argument" and maybe not mean it, I was supposed to just accept that. "Oh he's like that in arguments, he doesn't mean any of it ...while they are insulting and abusing you". It's deeply deeply immature, unrealistic, lacking responsibility etc.
And as I said, I'd be interested to see how comfortable they would be continuing the relationship in an enthusiastic, committed way if they were on the receiving end of similar insults and accusations.

If they're like that as an adult past 30 (?) I don't see them changing much.

NecessaryNC24 · 24/03/2024 08:09

OhhToHearTheMoonBeamsSing · 23/03/2024 20:48

No, absolutely would not forgive. He's nasty, nasty, nasty.

When someone shows you who they are, believe it.

Yep.

Being repeatedly called a cunt and a shit mother surprisingly did nothing but reinforce my desire for divorce.

Words are powerful and whenever I was feeling guilt for the DC no longer having mum & dad together I would remember what he said and how he said it and knew I was doing the right thing.

Trust your instincts OP.

Xenoi24 · 24/03/2024 08:18

I suppose that the bottom line is that we, as women, want to be in a relationship with an adult; not a nasty child.

Which is what he is.

Startingagainandagain · 24/03/2024 08:36

This is awful behaviour.

Leave the immature, cruel loser.

Seriously, people inevitably argue sometimes but this language is totally unacceptable.

Loubelle70 · 24/03/2024 08:38

Baywatch60 · 23/03/2024 12:55

I have currently decided to separate from H
The other night was the third time he stopped low in an argument. In the phone he called me fat, ugly slag and that my vagina stinks. I told him not to return home and he’s stayed away. He’s apologised saying he was just angry but I can’t forgive this time. I am no way fat or ugly so I just can’t believe he said it, again. I feel horrible but am pretending I am fine. Aibu?

First time would be it for me, not third.
Tell him if your vag stinks its because he doesn't keep himself clean before you have sex.

TheBottomsOfMyTrousersAreRolled · 24/03/2024 08:39

Xenoi24 · 24/03/2024 08:18

I suppose that the bottom line is that we, as women, want to be in a relationship with an adult; not a nasty child.

Which is what he is.

Sadly the question seems to be would women want to be in an abusive relationship rather than single. And that is down to downplaying of abusive behaviours to the point they are normalised. British TV has been doing this for years. Brits grow up on a visual diet of unhealthy relationships and appalling boundaries.

DrJoanAllenby · 24/03/2024 09:01

People can argue without name calling. Name callers are usually too stupid to debate and discuss rationally so resort to name calling.

The fact he's unintelligent would turn me off and the fact he's abusive would make me dump him.

Betterbuckleupbarbara · 24/03/2024 09:17

@Baywatch60 my ex was like this, he also told our DC I was a fat pig. I had just given birthday after a high risk pregnancy, I think whore was thrown in there too for good measure.

At at time, I was so confused and upset that this man I thought cared about how I felt, that he must have been reduced to this because of something I did.

Now, I’m incredulous I let the relationship get beyond the first encounter.

Luckily, someone else has now taken him off the market so he’s contained for now. They are far better suited than we would ever be in this lifetime, and they spend their time trying to find way to explain how terrible I am still. I admire their energy after all these years, but I digress.

Your husband is a petulant toddler and you really should take him out like the trash he is.

I have no time for men like this, and neither should you.

There are decent men just waiting to have a fulfilling relationship if that’s what you choose to do after recovering for this sheer horror show of a man you’ve been exposed to.