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I've been doing the "pick me dance" for 30 years

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ThePickMeDance · 13/03/2024 16:33

I've come to the conclusion that I have been doing the "pick me" dance for the past 30 years of my relationship with my DH and I am tired, just so very tired and weary of it. The problem I am trying to work out, is that, is it me, in my head, or is it actually him?

My DH is a good looking, intelligent man, and he has a successful job. From the moment I met him, early 20's, I had other girls trying to get off with him, even in front of me. I lost a couple of friends over it. Here is where the "pick me" dance started.

Since the day dot, I have never felt "really loved, cherished, appreciated, beautiful, slim, intelligent, funny, a great cook, insert other achievement...." because he doesn't say any of these things to me, unless pushed, and it then sounds insincere. I am all these things and more though, because other people compliment me, on me. I don't think my DH loves anyone as much as he loves himself. He loves our DC, but I think he most likes the bits he gave them. He also compares me to other women. I was a SAHM for a few years whilst he travelled and jet propelled up the corporate ladder, and apparently other women in his office juggle 3 DC, whilst making deals, make dinner from scratch, and get to go down the gym and look fantastic. Why can't I?

During our long term marriage, we have had a few wobbles. Mostly him pondering whether he wants to be married to me or not. He once told me "Do you think if we didn't have kids, we'd be together?" Again, I did the "pick me" dance. I think I even said to him "you know you could do worse than me you know. Other people think I am attractive, intelligent and funny". I feel like I am selling myself in an interview. Please give me the job!

Sometimes I actually do think that my DH would be better off with someone else. Perhaps he would be happier with a 36 year old MA Grad with a 100K job, who looks like Sharon Stone back in the day. I also think that maybe I would be happier too, with someone more simple. Someone who comes in from their construction job and asks me if I want a cup of tea, and someone who tells me "bloody hell, you look gorgeous in that dress", even though I don't.

What tipped me over the edge this week was an incident I witnessed. I don't want to out myself so I am generalising a bit. DH and I are clients of someone, a woman, and we met her recently. She started to say something to my DH about thanks for the info (not business related, but WRT an interest of his). She was laughing and joking with my DH and he was doing it back. I thought she was being really flirty, and him too. At one point she leaned into him, and just kind of tapped him with her elbow. I was f*cking standing there. I felt like I was intruding. Anyway we left and I was sitting in the car and it dawned on me that they have been either messaging or emailing about this interest. On it's own it is nothing, but with the flirting and mild elbow dig it felt like the buds of something. If I mentioned it, he would think I am nuts. And TBH, clearly I am going nuts. Also, what upset me was that he doesn't act like that with me. I felt like that poor woman off MAFS Australia, when she came into the room with Collins and everyone is smooching and she thinks "why not me".

Today I am upset. As started, I feel like I am constantly doing the "pick me" dance. Who cares about my happiness? Answers on a postcard please. I'm tired. I am honestly sitting here thinking, what if my DH starts an affair, and TBH the answer is, "if he does, maybe he will be doing me a favour and I no longer have to do this dance".

I know that some of you are going to lambast me for staying and taking this, but I am not sure if he is the problem, or the situation, or I just have no self esteem and this is the problem. Also, I don't want to upset my DC, obviously.

OP posts:
ThePickMeDance · 14/03/2024 17:14

Yes, I don’t mean change myself. I mean, focus on my job, friends, health and fitness. Get myself to a good place for me.

I feel shattered into a thousand pieces.

OP posts:
Watchkeys · 14/03/2024 17:18

That's not 'working on yourself' @ThePickMeDance , that's 'living'. That's what you're meant to be doing all the time, and your spouse should be supporting you. If not, he needs a poke in the eye. (Metaphorically)

YouHaveBeenThere · 14/03/2024 17:27

Watchkeys · 14/03/2024 15:12

You don't need to 'work on yourself'. You need to accept that no work needs doing on you. You have reams of examples of how he's made you feel shit. The only thing you didn't do was act on those feelings.

What would be your dream solution to your problem, if it involves not changing anybody but yourself?

Well said.

The problem with men like this is it is no easy journey recognising your own worth.

Highly competetive partners will not allow you to thrive, they show no mercy at whatever stage of the game you are at.

You have to disengage in your mind, you don't need this idiots approval, he's a clown who doesn't even recognise what is good, his scale of judgement is applied to the wrong things in life, he will never understand reality and what's important in life.

Understand he is a fool, don't worship fools, it's time to recognise your own worth op he's been preventing you from doing so, these narcs will use you but to do so they have to wipe your confidence, and all willingly done so in the name of love so you they can't be blamed. Break free from the shackles of his mind control, you don't need him anymore to use you in the world of serfdom he has assigned you to.

This is your time on this planet and you have a right to not be unhappy.

theleafandnotthetree · 14/03/2024 17:38

coxesorangepippin · 13/03/2024 20:21

I don't have any constructive advice, but man can you write!

Very funny and engaging. Sorry if this sounds trite, it's not meant to

Agree completely, OP you sound funny and wise and a bit of a babe. Fuck him!

roses321 · 14/03/2024 18:20

Hi OP

Yeah, I'm sorry but I do think your husband is a narcissist (meaning he has the traits not that i'm diagnosing him). He's definitely toxic.

It would probably suprise you to learn that your husband is most likely quite jealous of you in reality, because as you say, others compliment you and after all, it has to be about him and in order to do that, he has to put you down.

It sounds like this relationship is shredding your self esteem, and honestly I know exactly how that feels, I was only with my now ex fiancee for 5 years and thank God we had no children but I also did the pick me dance and felt desperate for his approval. I laugh now when I think about the time that I bought all these agent provocateur bras and wore a low cut top JUST so he'd notice me, or times I'd deliberately go to bed with barely anything on just to try and get his attention.

The reality was that he gave attention when HE wanted to and not when I wanted it.

Dr Ramani is a really useful resource on youtube, she is very helpful for listening to when you're trying to cope with all this.

I think some of this is to do with low self esteem from parents/childhood and hoenstly we have to find it in oureselves rather than relying on others, but genuinely I think that anyone like your husband is just so toxic and bad for your mental health that I would be looking at a mindset change at the very least. Dr Ramani calls it "radical acceptance" because as much as people have told you to talk to him, if he really is a narc then they can't be talked to, they don't listen and are extremely dismissive and careless about your feelings.

I'm sorry you're going through this but I do hope that you have a wake up call that this is about him and nothing to do with your worth as a human being. It will likely make him very mad indeed if you start living for yourself and stop caring about what he says - and also treat his put downs as almost amusing to you and dismiss them the way he dismisses you.

Seaoftroubles · 14/03/2024 23:28

OP please don't bother to look for reasons why he is so nasty, that's how he is and he's not going to change, especially if he is a narcissist.
It needs to be about you now, don't expect compliments from him or share nice things other people have said about you or you will continue to be negged, mocked or opposed. Enjoy the nice comments yourself and don't make yourself vulnerable by sharing them. Please seek counselling to help you navigate this, concentrate on your children and your friendships and grey rock him as much as possible whilst you start to formulate an exit plan.

AtrociousCircumstance · 06/05/2024 19:15

He sounds absolutely fucking awful and you have been undermined for years and years.

Leave him or start building a path to leaving him (focus on friendships, your own career, your own friends and separate life). Detach. Reclaim your power.

Out there, if it’s what you want - there’s a loving man who’ll say you look hot, and that he’s proud of you, and he’ll mean it. But most of all out there your independence from this awful man is waiting, and your self esteem waiting to spring up again with ease.

Honeypickle · 08/05/2024 16:57

@ThePickMeDance how are things going now? I hope they are better.

bringmorewashing · 08/05/2024 17:23

It's not easy to accept that someone has been treating you this way for so long. But, as you know, it's a problem with him not you.

He sounds egotistical. I would let him know in no uncertain terms that he's free to go off with one of these supposed superwoman types from work and that you couldn't care less. After all, you might then meet a decent man who appreciates all of your excellent qualities, so it would be no loss!

BallaiLuimni · 08/05/2024 20:01

I don't know if it's worth trying to diagnose him - it can be helpful to put words on things but at the bottom of it all he just isn't a good partner and you're worn out from trying to gather up the tiny crumbs he gives you.

The Bake Off comment is just awful - I can't imagine saying something so mean to someone I really hated, never mind my partner!

It doesn't have to be horrendous for you to leave. You can just decide that you don't want your energy sapped by this situation any longer.

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