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Partner when drunk gets aggressive, especially when out with our friends

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Mary0109 · 07/03/2024 00:31

My partner and I have been together just over a year now. We're having serious future talks, one of which involves us finding a place together next year once I graduate University.

Very suddenly however, I'm having serious doubts due to his aggressive approach to conflict.

Over our relationship, he's gotten into a serious fist fight with his friend due to him criticizing (relentlessly, in my opinion) his friend's girlfriend, he's landed in hospital after a bar fight (he was punched up, didn't have the chance to swing at all), has choked me in response to me teasing him while we were at a friend's 21st (I checked for bruising the day after, luckily it wasn't that severe), and during the last outing a couple months ago the following occurred:

We were leaving the bar as it was closing with his mate. The same mate he had a fist fight with, and this time they were arguing over the same bloody subject. My boyfriend not liking his girlfriend. They were getting quite heated, so I tapped my boyfriend on the shoulder and asked him to calm down, but he shoved me aside, ignoring me. Frustrated, and drunk, I approached again and sternly began to tell him to calm down, but he again shoved me and told me to go away.

Note; he's a big man. He regularly lifts weights, and his shoves had me stumble. I was fearful when he choked me, because his arm was large enough to painfully squeeze my entire throat.

I stood by the bar's wall waiting for them to finish their conversation. We weren't in a particularly nice part of town, so two drunk men approached me and began chatting me up. I made eye contact with my boyfriend, but he left it be. I was trying to politely turn down their asking that I join them to a party down the block, when a drunk man approached my boyfriend and his mate, and asked if he could use the bathroom inside the bar.

Instead of telling him he can't, that the bar is closed, my boyfriend told him to "fuck off". The man stepped up to him, and again my boyfriend stepped up to him, shoved him, and told him to fuck off. This lead to a fist fight, my large boyfriend, his tall mate, and this young, lanky man.

I yelled at them to cut it out, and when they flat out ignored me, I felt disgusted and walked off to find a quite space to book an uber home.

Boyfriend and his friend lay the man onto the ground, then ran after me. My boyfriend had a panic attack from seeing me walk off. I'm used to helping people during panic attacks, as I lost my sister a year ago in a car accident and our little sister frequently has panic attacks when traumatic memories from the hospital come back to her. Once my boyfriend was calmed, I got us home, and had a serious conversation with him. I don't want to be with a violent man, and our relationship will be damned if I'm that foolish girlfriend yelling for her boyfriend to stop punching someone up. He said his sorries, and said that to solve the issue, we wouldn't go out together again. I wasn't happy with the solution, but it's what we both agreed on.

Cut to now. In a few days we're going out for a friend's birthday. We'll play pub golf, which will involve downing nine drinks. I've been quietly dreading it.

Every time he brings it up, he talks about how he's most definitely going to end up in a fist fight with one of the blokes going with our group. Why? He stated that when drunk, his friend teases him relentlessly, and in response, my boyfriend will absolutely throw his fists. He claims this is unavoidable, and simply how he is.

It was him confirming that that made the alarm bells from his previous altercations flare up for me. When we have our first fight, drunk and pissed off, when I'm pushing his buttons and he's pushing mine, what will he do?

I need to hear some opinions. I've decided that if this inevitable fight actually does happen, I will go home. He claims I'm being unreasonable for this, and that I have to understand why it's fine. I'm torn up and dejected, but I will not be with a man immature enough, dangerous enough, to hurt his friends, myself, and strangers over things such as teasing and a f*cking bathroom.

Thoughts?

OP posts:
jolies1 · 07/03/2024 20:29

He choked you.

He said to solve the issue, we wouldn't go out together again.

He’s making it sound like you are also to blame for his behaviour as it wouldn’t have happened if you hadn’t gone out together, he is making excuses for being violent towards you rather than seeking therapy / giving up drinking immediately. (OP I would still leave ANY man who was violent towards me, therapy or not, but he hasn’t even taken responsibility for his behaviour).

Make sure you have somewhere safe to go and leave him. Talk to friends / family about what happened so they can help to protect you.

SailingStormyWaters · 07/03/2024 20:29

He is a massive liability.
Who would want to live with someone as unstable and violent as this?
Don't ever have children with a man like this, he is far too high risk.

duende · 07/03/2024 20:32

I only managed half of your post, OP.

You are with a violent, dangerous, abusive arsehole. Why?

There's no doubt in my mind that you should LTB, immediately.

CharSiu · 07/03/2024 20:39

Watch Murdered by my boyfriend as outlined, I was writing to watch this but see many already have.

Alcohol always reveals a persons true nature, my DH and DS both fall asleep.

wherethecrawmumsings · 07/03/2024 20:39

I second what everyone else said about his behaviour towards you.

I also think you write as though you have a really casual attitude towards violence in general - I had to re read the bit about your boyfriend and his mate laying the stranger on the floor.

As I thought that sounded kind of them given what a pair of thugs they are.

But now I read it again I think you mean they punched him to the floor.

You don't even sound shocked or judgemental about their behaviour.

Flyhigher · 07/03/2024 20:58

Leave him. Warning signs. Do you aggressive males in your family? Is that why you tolerate this?
Get out now.

savethatkitty · 07/03/2024 20:58

You already know the answer. He's a toss pot of epic proportion. Run, now & don't look back.

Flyhigher · 07/03/2024 21:02

LEAVE HIM. Carefully. With help.
He's preying on you. Wanting a victim.

Flyhigher · 07/03/2024 21:03

You are 21 or 20? Omg. Leave this asshole now.

FoxtrotOscarFoxtrotOscar · 07/03/2024 21:07

Thoughts?
He's a drunken, violent thug.

Crazycrazylady · 07/03/2024 21:07

Honestly he's a thug . Why would you want someone like that in your life. On tenterhooks in case he tried to beat someone up.

Flyhigher · 07/03/2024 21:08

Do you like the drama? This has no good endings. Apart from leave and find kind normal men.
You are very articulate. But I'm concerned you enjoy the drama of it. You will pay a high price for this.

DumpedByText · 07/03/2024 21:29

He choked you and you stayed with him. Please please do not stay with this idiot, you deserve so much more. Things will only escalate.

RobinsInTheTree · 07/03/2024 22:30

Just imagine moving in together and he 'play choked' you during an intimate moment.

Just imagine if you moved in together and he 'jokingly choked' you after something you said that 'offended' him.

Just imagine he choked you after something you said that 'offended' him and he wanted to teach you a 'bit of a lesson'.

Just imagine he choked you when you became pregnant just to keep you 'in your place' - you being vulnerable and all.

Just imagine he choked you into a few minutes unconsciousness then went to the gym leaving you, whilst your newborn cried for food, warmth, love, etc.

Just imagine he choked you with intent to kill in front of your children - and succeeded.

Just imaging the horror that your children would re-live every day.

RantyAnty · 08/03/2024 04:42

I have to ask you what exactly are your deal breakers that will make you leave someone? Do you have any at all?

The reality is this guy is a violent abusive drunk.

And for some unknown reason that you haven't explained to us, you have not left him because of this. Why?

Did you have a neglectful abusive childhood with a parent who drinks?

noodlesfortea · 08/03/2024 05:15

Sorry, he choked you?! That's insane. No decent man would choke you at any time, for any reason.

You've obviously been through a lot of trauma with your sister passing and I think this may have impacted your decision making here.

You need to break up with this man immediately. Block all contact, never see him again. If he threatens you, report it to the police immediately. You deserve so much more from life.

This man will kill you.

Newestname002 · 08/03/2024 05:16

@Mary0109

has choked me in response to me teasing him while we were at a friend's 21st (I checked for bruising the day after, luckily it wasn't that severe),

Just based on this comment alone I'd cut ties with him. This is a very dangerous development which if (when) it happens again could leave you hurt or dead.

Don't allow yourself to be in a relationship with someone so aggressive and so lacking in self control that he puts not just himself in danger but you and, longer term, any future children you have with him.

Please don't give him ANY more chances - he is a bomb on the point of exploding - don't be caught up in this. 🌹

SaltedCaramelIcedLatte · 08/03/2024 05:26

He choked you, that's enough to end this awful relationship. All the other stuff with his friends doesn't matter, your safety and wellbeing does!

leafybrew · 08/03/2024 05:41

I plan to see how he behaves this Saturday. I need to witness it again knowing now that there is absolutely no excuse for his behavior.

Thanks for commenting on how absurd my story is, it's really made me realize how wrong it all is. I'm slowly working my strength up to leave him.

You sound very vulnerable OP as you've been through a lot already with your Mum and your sister . Please just split with this violent and messed up bloke - he is not what you need in your life.

You don't need to slowly work up any strength - you just need to split with him now. Listen to what everyone is saying on this thread.

Sparkleswinston · 08/03/2024 05:44

I had an ex like this. All just drink related and his uncontrolled anger. It was all ok until he kicked the living daylights out of me in a rage. I was black and blue.

almost gave him a chance as he needed help and he punched me in the face the day after whilst on the high street.

I was gone after that.

men like this need castrating and putting on hard labour farms. They are dangerous.

leave him now.

Northernsouloldies · 08/03/2024 05:44

Eight pages of the same advice....you don't need to witness anything else to confirm...he gets off on violence end of.

Takenoprisoner · 08/03/2024 05:46

35965a · 07/03/2024 07:49

He has already tried to kill you. I’m not exaggerating, when he choked you that could have been the outcome.

If you don’t care about that - he will end up killing someone else. These ‘fights’ gets into could easily end with him facing a murder charge.

Do not let this cunt either kill you or drag you down with him.

I cannot believe what I'm reading. i thought there was more awareness nowadays about abusive and violent relationships and spotting the signs

HE HAS ALREADY TRIED TO KILL YOU.

JUST END IT NOW LIKE THIS SECOND

Starspangledrodeopony · 08/03/2024 07:40

Men who choke are the men who kill women.

Crabwoman · 08/03/2024 08:20

Starspangledrodeopony · 08/03/2024 07:40

Men who choke are the men who kill women.

This. It's not going to get better.

But just imagine having kids with this man. Imagine a nice BBQ on a sunny day, too much alcohol. You or one of the kids 'annoys' him on they way home. I already know what will happen...

You are young and have no ties to this man. Leave and get some support before entering into another relationship as your experiences with your DM seem to have skewed your perspective.

toddlermam · 08/03/2024 08:47

Honest question - do you really think he'll change if/when you have children?

I've lost count of the times where my angry drunk of dad came home smashing the house up, calling me every word you could imagine - I vividly remember being 14 years old as my dad was smashing my mother's makeup to pieces, calling me at fat c*nt, wishing I was dead etc whilst I was taking turns covering my baby siblings ears he wouldn't wake them up and comforting my other terrified 7 year old sibling. This could be caused by so much as my mother not answering the phone the first time. My dad is the exact same person as he was at 18 as he is now at 47. Your partner will NEVER change, please do yourself and your potential future children a favour and LEAVE.

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