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I think from now on my default setting will just be grumpy, moody cow that makes no effort

101 replies

TheSalesGirl · 23/02/2024 21:47

I'm sick of being a nice, decent person and just getting treated like shit by friends. I'm always upbeat and try to be fun and friendly but it really doesn't do me any favours. Those that 'say it like it is' and are grumpy and offhand all the time have people clamouring to kiss their arses.

I'm currently on holiday with DH, and another couple we are good friends with. They asked if another couple could come too. And lo and behold the three men have all gone off together all week and got on fine but I'm left out by my friend and her other friend. They've been whispering, disappearing off for walks leaving me in the apartment and just generally being 'besties'. If I speak their eyes glaze over.

Why is it always me this happens to? Why, for once can't I be the one that someone actually wants to gravitate towards and it be some other person being the third wheel? It's always me. And this is a so called good friend who has done this.

I really feel like from now on I'll just be moody, offhand and snappy and just not bother with friends

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LittlePudding1 · 24/02/2024 09:52

You're focusing your upset in the wrong direction here.
Yes, the women sound like bitches and the friendship is obviously not a friendship but come on wtf is your dh doing leaving you on your own
Forget trying to fit in with these women, your dh should be spending time with you. You need to make sure he spends the time you've got left with you
Never go on a holiday with these couples again

SadnapTwapples · 24/02/2024 09:58

1983Louise · 24/02/2024 09:19

This isn't going to solve your holiday dilemma but it's good advice going forward. I was never a confident person, going into a room full of people I'd be thinking who's going to like me. The moment I switched that thought to who am I going to like, I became so much more confidence. Set your boundaries and don't put up with second best, know and value your self worth.

Friendship with you, OP, is an exclusive members' club, and they don't make the grade.

EarthSight · 24/02/2024 10:03

DrinkFeckArseBrick · 23/02/2024 22:21

I think your husband is being a dick. He doesn't want you to make a fuss, ok I can understand if he is mates with these guys, but he can still invite you along to activities or take some time out from guys activities to do something nice with you. Knowing you're being ignored by these women but leaving you for long periods of time to do stuff wirh the blokes is a dick move

Such a dick move. He's more concerned about being accepted as one of the boys, his image, and not rocking the boat than he is about you. Surely he isn't blind - he can see you're alone on holiday yes??

What's the point of going on holiday with your husband if it ends up being a 'girls' trip with women who don't actually like you??

TeaGlouriousTea · 24/02/2024 10:22

Your DH is a problem and unsupportive.

Agree that people pleasers fall by the wayside as they can appear inauthentic and you are never sure what they are really thinking.

I would have just said no to the extra couple. That’s your issue you have no voice. You don’t know how to be assertive and you thinking people are grumpy and make no effort it may just be that they have boundaries. Even in a decent friendship group three is the hardest number.

TheSalesGirl · 24/02/2024 15:21

I've just been largely ignoring them today and they've had the audacity to ask DH why I'm in a bad mood!

I agree, I do need to have better boundaries

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errogant · 24/02/2024 15:37

TheSalesGirl · 24/02/2024 15:21

I've just been largely ignoring them today and they've had the audacity to ask DH why I'm in a bad mood!

I agree, I do need to have better boundaries

So just tell them!?

WhatWhereWho · 24/02/2024 15:42

TheSalesGirl · 24/02/2024 15:21

I've just been largely ignoring them today and they've had the audacity to ask DH why I'm in a bad mood!

I agree, I do need to have better boundaries

Tell them. Think you need better 'friends' in general rather than a grumpy default setting. And a more supportive DH who involves you if he sees that you are being left out.

Iloveacurry · 24/02/2024 16:01

Say something to them!

RandomForest · 24/02/2024 16:07

TheSalesGirl · 24/02/2024 15:21

I've just been largely ignoring them today and they've had the audacity to ask DH why I'm in a bad mood!

I agree, I do need to have better boundaries

They are making it your problem, they've Darvo'd you and are now enlisting your husband to back them up.

I should imagine for an easy life and to be liked he will place the blame at your door, because he's got no backbone and pathetically sides with bullies.

He's seen you being sidelined, marginalised and lonely and has done nothing to support you.

SunflowerTed · 24/02/2024 17:08

RandomForest · 24/02/2024 16:07

They are making it your problem, they've Darvo'd you and are now enlisting your husband to back them up.

I should imagine for an easy life and to be liked he will place the blame at your door, because he's got no backbone and pathetically sides with bullies.

He's seen you being sidelined, marginalised and lonely and has done nothing to support you.

This. In spades.

Mamette · 24/02/2024 17:34

I should imagine for an easy life and to be liked he will place the blame at your door, because he's got no backbone and pathetically sides with bullies.

He's seen you being sidelined, marginalised and lonely and has done nothing to support you.

This! I planned to say similar. I think your DH has sacrificed you so that he can be one of the lads.

TheSalesGirl · 25/02/2024 09:36

I'm so glad to be coming home today!

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Secondstart1001 · 25/02/2024 09:51

TheSalesGirl · 25/02/2024 09:36

I'm so glad to be coming home today!

I hope you are ok and sorry that what should have been a fun relaxing time was anything but!

HellonHeels · 25/02/2024 12:03

TheSalesGirl · 25/02/2024 09:36

I'm so glad to be coming home today!

Sorry youve had such a rubbish holiday and hope you get home with no problems.

Honestly, in your situation, I'd use this travel time to have a think about where you'd like to be in 6 months. Start prioritising yourself, do things that you always wanted to do. You seem to have ended up in a corner with your DH doing whatever he wants and you left in his wake just "making do". Well fuck that! Go and get what you want, be a bit selfish, be kind to yourself.

I hope you can get to a much happier place, you deserve that.

MrsSkylerWhite · 25/02/2024 12:06

TheSalesGirl · 23/02/2024 21:58
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@AutumnCrow bike rides mostly! And going to bars”

Why have you tolerated this?

TheSalesGirl · 26/02/2024 09:24

So, I blanked both at the airport and on the flight and just sat with DH and read a book. When we'd got our luggage I just walked off through customs and didn't say bye to anyone.

When I got home my 'friend' text me and asked if I was ok and why didn't I say bye and I text back saying that she and her friend had ignored me and been bitchy all holiday.

She replied saying the other woman is a very good friend of hers and she was enjoying the opportunity to spend time with her and if I didn't understand that then I wasn't much of a friend.

So I replied 'Nice!'. And then deleted her from social media, blocked her and blocked her number on my phone.

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Mnk711 · 26/02/2024 09:29

Good for you! Some people are selfish aholes. Fine if she wanted to spend a bit of time with just that friend but not to do that when it meant leaving you alone and also certainly not fine to do it all week. It's hurtful but I always view these things as positive as ultimately you've got rid of a dickhead from your life. People that will do things like this also tend to be the people that will talk about you behind your back. Good riddance.

Peaceandquietandacuppa · 26/02/2024 11:31

Well done on blocking them.

What are you going to do about your DH problem now OP? It was not ok that he knew this was happening and did not support you in fact wanted you to keep the peace! So their feelings were more important than yours...

As mentioned, are you happy in general? I do feel that if you are generally unhappy in life it can make people subconsciously avoid you. It’s not your fault but if it is an ongoing issue and you want to resolve it maybe look at how you can try and do whatever you need to go to get happy. Stop just indulging all your DH’s hobbies and friendships and cultivate your own.

rubyredknowsitall · 26/02/2024 11:39

Brilliant result! Well done!! Now make sure you surround yourself with only decent people - you could try Meet-Up!

RandomForest · 26/02/2024 12:45

I think you are beggining to see the deficits in your husband now, it is no way anything to do with you.

He's been unkind, weak and unsuportive, all that just so he could be liked, he threw you under the bus for his own ego.

Tell him, you think less of his character, he's a weak willed arse licker, you are not, he sounds a fool. Just make sure you don't put yourself in a possition whereby you have to trust or rely on him again, he's not a safe partner.

Iloveacurry · 26/02/2024 12:49

Well she isn’t much of a friend to leave you out!

TheSlantedOwl · 26/02/2024 14:50

Well done OP. Now maybe you need to tackle your H’s lack of support.

Versailles2025 · 26/02/2024 15:06

Excellent. You will be much happier for it. Some friends just want you around to make them feel good about themselves.

You are free.

ShennyInfinity · 26/02/2024 15:24

They sound like school kids quite honestly and your husband needs a good kick up the backside. Close the doors on people who no longer serve you, in other words those two for a start and gather only people who are like you and if it was me, I'd choose you 100%. Don't change, just choose and be who you are. I'm so sorry, this was so awful for you, you're not alone though, there are a lot of us out there, just be very choosy and good for you for blocking her, with friends like that you don't need enemies as the saying goes.

Flabthletics · 26/02/2024 17:23

Sometimes nice people end up forgiving redflags and giving benefit of the doubt to their detriment. Maybe you ignore red flags because you're too nice and let them push your boundaries

Sorry just saw your update well done!