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Partner and his baby mummy’s

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Lmac2 · 07/02/2024 12:40

Please help, and this is ever so long.
Im new here and I popped it on another thread by mistake and it got deleted, so I now need to start all over again with it 🤦🏼‍♀️

I met a guy 3 months ago.
Turns out he has 2 babies. 1 at 10 months and the other at 8 months.

The 1st baby mummy allows him to see the baby.
The 2nd baby mummy didn’t know anything about the 1st and obv now does. She hasn’t allowed him to see the baby for 2.5 months (basically since he’s been seeing me)
He didn’t tell me about his 1st baby, only the 2nd. So, at Xmas I dumped him for being dishonest.
I then contacted the 8 months old baby mummy and asked her about him.
Well, she told me a lot. He cheated on her for the full time they were together, was engaged to her, they didn’t have sex since she was 11 weeks pregnant because she had a bleed and was too scared. I’m lucky I’m away from him, he took an avid interest in her 18 year old niece and became obsessed.
He has a criminal record as long as your arm that she couldn’t go into because it’s going through court and she can’t talk about it. He has been accused of sexual assault (I knew this, he told me) he’s not allowed up to her house and her and the baby are on a vulnerable persons list because he’s a danger to them both. He steals his disabled and bed bound mums money. She would never allow him to be in the same room as her baby let alone change the baby’s nappy by himself. She would rather disappear than allow him to see the baby. He constantly begs her to take him back. She said he has an only fans account that he posts himself on. He has got cctv because he has active death threats against him. He has more than 2 children. All he is is a factory worker, he’ll not do anything else, he’s actually very “thick” and can’t really understand forms etc etc. He has no money and is in debt up to his eyeballs. The list goes on.
She encouraged me to do a Claire’s law check on him (it’s different in Scotland) she said that I’d be told all of the things that’s happened, the list is huge. She encouraged me to go on a social media page outting bad guys, I did , he was on it. She told me she wasn’t on it but knew about it.
So, I asked him all of these things. He said some of them are correct but others are lies.
Namely, he did cheat on her throughout the pregnancy, they had at slept together since she was 11 weeks gone because she had a bleed. They got pregnant after 6 weeks of meeting, this was her 1st and only child as she was 42.
The police contacted me and visited and said that he does have a sexual assault accusation against him, no charges were ever made. That’s it, that’s all they told me.
In connection with his mums money, he stays with his mum rent free, they have no mortgage, it’s been paid off, the only things he pays for are his season ticket for football, his car petrol and insurance and his food at home. The mum pays out of her disability stuff for her food, utilities, sky tv etc. He then said during Covid because he doesn’t pay anything, and couldn’t go out or on holiday, he saved an awful lot.
He says he doesn’t have an only fans account, that’s lies.
I never said to him about being with the baby alone or changing its nappy because that to me alludes to something very bad.
He has cctv at his house to make sure his mum is safe when he is at work and to make sure the carers are in.
We eventually got together. She then found this out and she messaged me to say that under no circumstances was I to tell him anything about her or the baby (I wouldn’t anyway, I’m not that type of person, I’m a good person with a good heart ❤️) so she then messaged him for an hour going back and forward with who do you chose? Me or her, her or the baby, me her and the baby? Constantly. He asked me what he should say and I said the baby 100 times over and always will be the baby. She then said but I have what she’ll never have and that’s a baby with you, so why would you chose her and not us? The mother of your baby. She said to him that he had lowered his standards by dating me (she doesn’t know me) and proceeded to send him screen recording of what I had said about him, however, what she failed to record was it was actually me replying to what she had said about him! I called her out on it, she seen it and blocked me. Then went back to him and said you can say what you want now about her, I’ve blocked her 😞
He was on holiday and he asked her to see the baby on FaceTime, she said yes.
I seen a couple texts and he said on it “thanks so much for allowing me to see the baby xx” to which she replied “no problem xx” then he put a big red heart ❤️
I felt really hurt about this and said and he said he loves and respects her as the mother of his child, but that’s it’s, he’s with me and loves me.
Fast forward to when he came back his holidays and out of the blue, she said he could see the baby. I was/am so pleased for him, it’s what he’s wanted all along ❤️
They met at a park, went a walk then went for coffee. Next time they went for dinner together. (Which I’m not going to lie I find weird, because how can you bond with a baby over a dinner out?) just gone yesterday, he was up at her house, she asked him to build a cot for the baby and he did and he took a photo of the baby in the cot and the mum was standing in her dressing gown next to the cot? I said why is that, he said she wasn’t ready? So already, she’s had him up for eh house even though they are apparently on the vulnerable police list? He told me he changed her happy too?!

This is all such a head mess for me, is it me or is this becoming a bit too friendly given the very recent history? I suggested soft play and he said the mum doesn’t want to take her to soft play because she’s too young? She’s 8 months old. Am I right to be insecure? He’d do anything to see his baby, but I feel she’s being manipulative and knows he’d do anything to see her.
He suggested a meet up in a Tuesday and she suggested a Sunday too, early morning and I feel this is tactical because he needs to make sure that he is nearly in a Sunday to see the baby, whereas, she would know he’d no doubt be out with me on a Saturday and he staying over?
Am I being paranoid?
he’s told me that he lives and is with me, not her and doesn’t see her like that any more. I’m still insecure and I feel I can’t let it go and this is what is causing the arguments. He’s sick of talking about it and I’m insecure.

if you got this far, thank you, I’m at my wits end.

lx

OP posts:
pinkmarble · 07/02/2024 17:06

If you like him considering all his flaws and you don't think you can find a better man than stay with him. He is utter trash and will end up shagging his second baby mum - but you're obviously dicknotised by him.
When he does eventually cheat on you, and you leave him for good or vice versa, take yourself to therapy to find out why you're picking men like this.

This sounds like something from Jeremy Kyle.

Silverbirchtwo · 07/02/2024 17:11

The ex threw him under the bus to you, now obviously to undermine your relationship and get him back and then threw you under a bus to him. But he doesn't seem to be a prize so she may have done you a favour, I don't think he's worth fighting over.

twnety · 07/02/2024 17:12

Lmac2 · 07/02/2024 13:33

My child is far older, 20

So you are (at the VERY LEAST) 36?

I met a guy 3 months ago.

The police contacted me and visited and said that he does have a sexual assault accusation against him, no charges were ever made.

he’s told me that he lives and is with me,

He says he doesn’t have an only fans account, that’s lies.

Don't you deserve better? Is he living with you?

ShinyBandana · 07/02/2024 17:15

Omg what’s wrong with you?!

Lmac2 · 07/02/2024 17:17

twnety · 07/02/2024 17:12

So you are (at the VERY LEAST) 36?

I met a guy 3 months ago.

The police contacted me and visited and said that he does have a sexual assault accusation against him, no charges were ever made.

he’s told me that he lives and is with me,

He says he doesn’t have an only fans account, that’s lies.

Don't you deserve better? Is he living with you?

No, he doesn’t live with me, not at all.
You’re right, I do deserve better .

OP posts:
NoCloudsAllowed · 07/02/2024 17:18

I can't read all of that, you had me at 8mo and 10mo by two different women.

He's trash. What are you even thinking?

ShinyBandana · 07/02/2024 17:18

ShinyBandana · 07/02/2024 17:15

Omg what’s wrong with you?!

Ah, I see there’s some trauma.

Hes no good, OP. You don’t need that in your life

Amfeelinglikeashowerpuff · 07/02/2024 17:39

Run fast and run far-if you stay in this mess it will ruin you-been there done that (although nowhere near as bad) and I still try not to think about all that over 20 years ago.
There must be better out there or even be on your own and build yourself up to not need anyone.

Lmac2 · 07/02/2024 17:42

Amfeelinglikeashowerpuff · 07/02/2024 17:39

Run fast and run far-if you stay in this mess it will ruin you-been there done that (although nowhere near as bad) and I still try not to think about all that over 20 years ago.
There must be better out there or even be on your own and build yourself up to not need anyone.

Thank you for your reply, esp as you’ve been through it (although probs not as bad!) I hope you’re ok ❤️❤️

OP posts:
ibe · 07/02/2024 17:46

@Lmac2
This was an instant 🚩🚩🚩

However, what the name of the social media site showing the deadbeat daddy's???? Asking for a friend Blush

Lmac2 · 07/02/2024 17:48

ibe · 07/02/2024 17:46

@Lmac2
This was an instant 🚩🚩🚩

However, what the name of the social media site showing the deadbeat daddy's???? Asking for a friend Blush

🤣🤣🤣 it’s called are we dating the same guy (then your area) they’re all over and it’s on fb, it’s actually good to go on, esp if you do online dating etc, some of the stories are quite horrific

OP posts:
unsync · 07/02/2024 18:17

Raise your standards. Do the Freedom Programme, it will help you identify the wrong'uns and you'll learn to have boundaries and self esteem. Some men prey on vulnerable women who just want to be loved. You need the tools to identify and reject them. It's very empowering to take back control.

Lmac2 · 07/02/2024 18:22

unsync · 07/02/2024 18:17

Raise your standards. Do the Freedom Programme, it will help you identify the wrong'uns and you'll learn to have boundaries and self esteem. Some men prey on vulnerable women who just want to be loved. You need the tools to identify and reject them. It's very empowering to take back control.

Where do you get this programme from? X

OP posts:
ParrotCatDog · 07/02/2024 18:30

Run. Save yourself from being baby mama no 3. Christ

Ready4ActionRyderSir · 07/02/2024 18:33

Chuck this one back, love.

Honestly, who can be fucked with all that.

It's not normal.

Illpickthatup · 07/02/2024 18:35

This cannot be real? Are you on crack?
3 months and there's been more drama than 10 years of the Jeremy Kyle show. You all sound like absolute idiots. Those poor kids!

Lmac2 · 07/02/2024 18:43

Illpickthatup · 07/02/2024 18:35

This cannot be real? Are you on crack?
3 months and there's been more drama than 10 years of the Jeremy Kyle show. You all sound like absolute idiots. Those poor kids!

Cheers for that very tasteful
comment . . . .

OP posts:
JCLV · 07/02/2024 18:50

Illpickthatup · 07/02/2024 18:35

This cannot be real? Are you on crack?
3 months and there's been more drama than 10 years of the Jeremy Kyle show. You all sound like absolute idiots. Those poor kids!

Neither kind nor helpful.

Illpickthatup · 07/02/2024 18:52

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Veryinteresting24 · 07/02/2024 18:52

Sorry op you do sound like a teenager yourself with the baby mammas, the he said/she said, getting so involved and relating all the drama with all the details. What are you actually doing getting mixed up in all this when you are a grown woman?

Lmac2 · 07/02/2024 18:55

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No, you didn’t, you were just being nasty

OP posts:
Lmac2 · 07/02/2024 18:56

Veryinteresting24 · 07/02/2024 18:52

Sorry op you do sound like a teenager yourself with the baby mammas, the he said/she said, getting so involved and relating all the drama with all the details. What are you actually doing getting mixed up in all this when you are a grown woman?

I wanted to give the full account of the story, sorry if it was too much detail

OP posts:
Veronicaisaflower · 07/02/2024 19:00

So have you dumped him yet? Or will you be back later in the year with a baby on the way because "he doesn't have a criminal record"?

tsmainsqueeze · 07/02/2024 19:04

Are you seriously asking what you should do about this relationship ?

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