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Partner and his baby mummy’s

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Lmac2 · 07/02/2024 12:40

Please help, and this is ever so long.
Im new here and I popped it on another thread by mistake and it got deleted, so I now need to start all over again with it 🤦🏼‍♀️

I met a guy 3 months ago.
Turns out he has 2 babies. 1 at 10 months and the other at 8 months.

The 1st baby mummy allows him to see the baby.
The 2nd baby mummy didn’t know anything about the 1st and obv now does. She hasn’t allowed him to see the baby for 2.5 months (basically since he’s been seeing me)
He didn’t tell me about his 1st baby, only the 2nd. So, at Xmas I dumped him for being dishonest.
I then contacted the 8 months old baby mummy and asked her about him.
Well, she told me a lot. He cheated on her for the full time they were together, was engaged to her, they didn’t have sex since she was 11 weeks pregnant because she had a bleed and was too scared. I’m lucky I’m away from him, he took an avid interest in her 18 year old niece and became obsessed.
He has a criminal record as long as your arm that she couldn’t go into because it’s going through court and she can’t talk about it. He has been accused of sexual assault (I knew this, he told me) he’s not allowed up to her house and her and the baby are on a vulnerable persons list because he’s a danger to them both. He steals his disabled and bed bound mums money. She would never allow him to be in the same room as her baby let alone change the baby’s nappy by himself. She would rather disappear than allow him to see the baby. He constantly begs her to take him back. She said he has an only fans account that he posts himself on. He has got cctv because he has active death threats against him. He has more than 2 children. All he is is a factory worker, he’ll not do anything else, he’s actually very “thick” and can’t really understand forms etc etc. He has no money and is in debt up to his eyeballs. The list goes on.
She encouraged me to do a Claire’s law check on him (it’s different in Scotland) she said that I’d be told all of the things that’s happened, the list is huge. She encouraged me to go on a social media page outting bad guys, I did , he was on it. She told me she wasn’t on it but knew about it.
So, I asked him all of these things. He said some of them are correct but others are lies.
Namely, he did cheat on her throughout the pregnancy, they had at slept together since she was 11 weeks gone because she had a bleed. They got pregnant after 6 weeks of meeting, this was her 1st and only child as she was 42.
The police contacted me and visited and said that he does have a sexual assault accusation against him, no charges were ever made. That’s it, that’s all they told me.
In connection with his mums money, he stays with his mum rent free, they have no mortgage, it’s been paid off, the only things he pays for are his season ticket for football, his car petrol and insurance and his food at home. The mum pays out of her disability stuff for her food, utilities, sky tv etc. He then said during Covid because he doesn’t pay anything, and couldn’t go out or on holiday, he saved an awful lot.
He says he doesn’t have an only fans account, that’s lies.
I never said to him about being with the baby alone or changing its nappy because that to me alludes to something very bad.
He has cctv at his house to make sure his mum is safe when he is at work and to make sure the carers are in.
We eventually got together. She then found this out and she messaged me to say that under no circumstances was I to tell him anything about her or the baby (I wouldn’t anyway, I’m not that type of person, I’m a good person with a good heart ❤️) so she then messaged him for an hour going back and forward with who do you chose? Me or her, her or the baby, me her and the baby? Constantly. He asked me what he should say and I said the baby 100 times over and always will be the baby. She then said but I have what she’ll never have and that’s a baby with you, so why would you chose her and not us? The mother of your baby. She said to him that he had lowered his standards by dating me (she doesn’t know me) and proceeded to send him screen recording of what I had said about him, however, what she failed to record was it was actually me replying to what she had said about him! I called her out on it, she seen it and blocked me. Then went back to him and said you can say what you want now about her, I’ve blocked her 😞
He was on holiday and he asked her to see the baby on FaceTime, she said yes.
I seen a couple texts and he said on it “thanks so much for allowing me to see the baby xx” to which she replied “no problem xx” then he put a big red heart ❤️
I felt really hurt about this and said and he said he loves and respects her as the mother of his child, but that’s it’s, he’s with me and loves me.
Fast forward to when he came back his holidays and out of the blue, she said he could see the baby. I was/am so pleased for him, it’s what he’s wanted all along ❤️
They met at a park, went a walk then went for coffee. Next time they went for dinner together. (Which I’m not going to lie I find weird, because how can you bond with a baby over a dinner out?) just gone yesterday, he was up at her house, she asked him to build a cot for the baby and he did and he took a photo of the baby in the cot and the mum was standing in her dressing gown next to the cot? I said why is that, he said she wasn’t ready? So already, she’s had him up for eh house even though they are apparently on the vulnerable police list? He told me he changed her happy too?!

This is all such a head mess for me, is it me or is this becoming a bit too friendly given the very recent history? I suggested soft play and he said the mum doesn’t want to take her to soft play because she’s too young? She’s 8 months old. Am I right to be insecure? He’d do anything to see his baby, but I feel she’s being manipulative and knows he’d do anything to see her.
He suggested a meet up in a Tuesday and she suggested a Sunday too, early morning and I feel this is tactical because he needs to make sure that he is nearly in a Sunday to see the baby, whereas, she would know he’d no doubt be out with me on a Saturday and he staying over?
Am I being paranoid?
he’s told me that he lives and is with me, not her and doesn’t see her like that any more. I’m still insecure and I feel I can’t let it go and this is what is causing the arguments. He’s sick of talking about it and I’m insecure.

if you got this far, thank you, I’m at my wits end.

lx

OP posts:
Muffit · 07/02/2024 15:04

Op, hes using triangulation, playing you off against the other woman.
Like the other have said you should value yourself, run away , from him.
If you can't get therapy try getting a self help book, or reread these answers here, stay strong, you will thank yourself later for having no further contact with him.The infatuation will passi f you let it.

Lmac2 · 07/02/2024 15:07

Muffit · 07/02/2024 15:04

Op, hes using triangulation, playing you off against the other woman.
Like the other have said you should value yourself, run away , from him.
If you can't get therapy try getting a self help book, or reread these answers here, stay strong, you will thank yourself later for having no further contact with him.The infatuation will passi f you let it.

Thank you ❤️❤️

OP posts:
OhNoWhatIf · 07/02/2024 15:08

What age are you both?

You've got a child who's 20
He lives with his Mum

Odd!

Toddlerteaplease · 07/02/2024 15:13

Run. Babies only two months apart would be enough fir me to run.

SKG231 · 07/02/2024 15:18

Get some self respect and leave this excuse of a man. You deserve more in life than to be dealing with this mess.

artfuldodgerjack · 07/02/2024 15:19

Toddlerteaplease · 07/02/2024 15:13

Run. Babies only two months apart would be enough fir me to run.

Haha yeah run far and fast from this guy.

whatsappdoc · 07/02/2024 15:22

Raise the bar sweetheart.

Lmac2 · 07/02/2024 15:26

whatsappdoc · 07/02/2024 15:22

Raise the bar sweetheart.

Thank you ❤️❤️

OP posts:
MayThe4th · 07/02/2024 15:28

Fuck me I’ve led a sheltered life.

MissRheingold · 07/02/2024 15:32

'We eventually got together.'

Why?

Quite frankly if he was the last man on earth he would still be the last person anyone in their right mind would want to be with.

Please scrape him off your shoe just as you would if you had stepped into dog mess because that's exactly what he is - a piece of shit.

Blueeyedmale · 07/02/2024 15:36

Op I'm not going to have a go at you as I see you mentioned trauma from the past.do you think he may be using this to his advantage?have you considered therapy to deal with your past trauma?

You can do so much better even if you don't think that now,you are worth so much more op and deserve so much more.

Good luck op but definitely bin this waste man!

Couldyounot · 07/02/2024 15:36

I don't think he's the one for you, OP.

Lmac2 · 07/02/2024 15:37

Blueeyedmale · 07/02/2024 15:36

Op I'm not going to have a go at you as I see you mentioned trauma from the past.do you think he may be using this to his advantage?have you considered therapy to deal with your past trauma?

You can do so much better even if you don't think that now,you are worth so much more op and deserve so much more.

Good luck op but definitely bin this waste man!

I really appreciate your comments ❤️❤️thank you xx

OP posts:
crumpet · 07/02/2024 15:40

No-one needs that much drama in their life. Get out and get some peace. He’s not worth 5 more minutes of your time. Good luck

Ladolcevita233 · 07/02/2024 15:40

I don't understand why you got involved with him.

Anyway, RUN.

This is Jeremy Kyle Central.

Don't value yourself this low.

Lmac2 · 07/02/2024 16:25

I really appreciate people’s comments on this, I really need out. Do I send him a message and say bye? Or just block full stop?

OP posts:
StephanieSuperpowers · 07/02/2024 16:28

I'd say quick message to say this isn't going to work and block. Don't invite a conversation about it all. Normally, I wouldn't say that, because obviously it's a cowardly and hurtful way to behave, but I just feel that nothing would really be achieved by getting into the whole thing.

Hope you can go from this to a happier future, a better relationship and find someone really, truly good for you.

Muffit · 07/02/2024 16:31

Block no contact, you know really it's the only way.He'll try to convince you to forgive him, or try again.
Get rid of all his contact details that wayyou can't contact him again.

vodkaredbullgirl · 07/02/2024 16:32

Just block

Raffaell0 · 07/02/2024 16:44

Lmac2 · 07/02/2024 16:25

I really appreciate people’s comments on this, I really need out. Do I send him a message and say bye? Or just block full stop?

Omg, just block, block, block!! This guy is DANGEROUS. The fact you’ve even entertained him this far means you let him control you and manipulate you like you’re some sort of naive 16 year old schoolgirl. All talking to this toss pot is going to do is drag you in further, or put you at risk of violence. Just run and don’t look back. And get counselling. You need it, like yesterday, to figure out why you actively seek out drama and danger.

SleepingStandingUp · 07/02/2024 16:44

Lmac2 · 07/02/2024 16:25

I really appreciate people’s comments on this, I really need out. Do I send him a message and say bye? Or just block full stop?

Just block and delete his number and delete all messages

SqueakyShouts · 07/02/2024 16:46

I stopped reading when you said you knew he had a criminal record and had committed sexual assault.

Why on earth are you giving him the time of day? Have nothing to do with this man ever again.

Lmac2 · 07/02/2024 17:00

SqueakyShouts · 07/02/2024 16:46

I stopped reading when you said you knew he had a criminal record and had committed sexual assault.

Why on earth are you giving him the time of day? Have nothing to do with this man ever again.

He doesn’t have a criminal record, she lied, he had an allegation of sexual assault made galant him that came out in the Claire’s law, but nothing else.

OP posts:
Gloriosaford · 07/02/2024 17:05

StephanieSuperpowers · 07/02/2024 16:28

I'd say quick message to say this isn't going to work and block. Don't invite a conversation about it all. Normally, I wouldn't say that, because obviously it's a cowardly and hurtful way to behave, but I just feel that nothing would really be achieved by getting into the whole thing.

Hope you can go from this to a happier future, a better relationship and find someone really, truly good for you.

My advice, OP, is to follow this advice!

TiffanyBean · 07/02/2024 17:05

Have some self respect and raise your standards OP.

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