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Partner and his baby mummy’s

199 replies

Lmac2 · 07/02/2024 12:40

Please help, and this is ever so long.
Im new here and I popped it on another thread by mistake and it got deleted, so I now need to start all over again with it 🤦🏼‍♀️

I met a guy 3 months ago.
Turns out he has 2 babies. 1 at 10 months and the other at 8 months.

The 1st baby mummy allows him to see the baby.
The 2nd baby mummy didn’t know anything about the 1st and obv now does. She hasn’t allowed him to see the baby for 2.5 months (basically since he’s been seeing me)
He didn’t tell me about his 1st baby, only the 2nd. So, at Xmas I dumped him for being dishonest.
I then contacted the 8 months old baby mummy and asked her about him.
Well, she told me a lot. He cheated on her for the full time they were together, was engaged to her, they didn’t have sex since she was 11 weeks pregnant because she had a bleed and was too scared. I’m lucky I’m away from him, he took an avid interest in her 18 year old niece and became obsessed.
He has a criminal record as long as your arm that she couldn’t go into because it’s going through court and she can’t talk about it. He has been accused of sexual assault (I knew this, he told me) he’s not allowed up to her house and her and the baby are on a vulnerable persons list because he’s a danger to them both. He steals his disabled and bed bound mums money. She would never allow him to be in the same room as her baby let alone change the baby’s nappy by himself. She would rather disappear than allow him to see the baby. He constantly begs her to take him back. She said he has an only fans account that he posts himself on. He has got cctv because he has active death threats against him. He has more than 2 children. All he is is a factory worker, he’ll not do anything else, he’s actually very “thick” and can’t really understand forms etc etc. He has no money and is in debt up to his eyeballs. The list goes on.
She encouraged me to do a Claire’s law check on him (it’s different in Scotland) she said that I’d be told all of the things that’s happened, the list is huge. She encouraged me to go on a social media page outting bad guys, I did , he was on it. She told me she wasn’t on it but knew about it.
So, I asked him all of these things. He said some of them are correct but others are lies.
Namely, he did cheat on her throughout the pregnancy, they had at slept together since she was 11 weeks gone because she had a bleed. They got pregnant after 6 weeks of meeting, this was her 1st and only child as she was 42.
The police contacted me and visited and said that he does have a sexual assault accusation against him, no charges were ever made. That’s it, that’s all they told me.
In connection with his mums money, he stays with his mum rent free, they have no mortgage, it’s been paid off, the only things he pays for are his season ticket for football, his car petrol and insurance and his food at home. The mum pays out of her disability stuff for her food, utilities, sky tv etc. He then said during Covid because he doesn’t pay anything, and couldn’t go out or on holiday, he saved an awful lot.
He says he doesn’t have an only fans account, that’s lies.
I never said to him about being with the baby alone or changing its nappy because that to me alludes to something very bad.
He has cctv at his house to make sure his mum is safe when he is at work and to make sure the carers are in.
We eventually got together. She then found this out and she messaged me to say that under no circumstances was I to tell him anything about her or the baby (I wouldn’t anyway, I’m not that type of person, I’m a good person with a good heart ❤️) so she then messaged him for an hour going back and forward with who do you chose? Me or her, her or the baby, me her and the baby? Constantly. He asked me what he should say and I said the baby 100 times over and always will be the baby. She then said but I have what she’ll never have and that’s a baby with you, so why would you chose her and not us? The mother of your baby. She said to him that he had lowered his standards by dating me (she doesn’t know me) and proceeded to send him screen recording of what I had said about him, however, what she failed to record was it was actually me replying to what she had said about him! I called her out on it, she seen it and blocked me. Then went back to him and said you can say what you want now about her, I’ve blocked her 😞
He was on holiday and he asked her to see the baby on FaceTime, she said yes.
I seen a couple texts and he said on it “thanks so much for allowing me to see the baby xx” to which she replied “no problem xx” then he put a big red heart ❤️
I felt really hurt about this and said and he said he loves and respects her as the mother of his child, but that’s it’s, he’s with me and loves me.
Fast forward to when he came back his holidays and out of the blue, she said he could see the baby. I was/am so pleased for him, it’s what he’s wanted all along ❤️
They met at a park, went a walk then went for coffee. Next time they went for dinner together. (Which I’m not going to lie I find weird, because how can you bond with a baby over a dinner out?) just gone yesterday, he was up at her house, she asked him to build a cot for the baby and he did and he took a photo of the baby in the cot and the mum was standing in her dressing gown next to the cot? I said why is that, he said she wasn’t ready? So already, she’s had him up for eh house even though they are apparently on the vulnerable police list? He told me he changed her happy too?!

This is all such a head mess for me, is it me or is this becoming a bit too friendly given the very recent history? I suggested soft play and he said the mum doesn’t want to take her to soft play because she’s too young? She’s 8 months old. Am I right to be insecure? He’d do anything to see his baby, but I feel she’s being manipulative and knows he’d do anything to see her.
He suggested a meet up in a Tuesday and she suggested a Sunday too, early morning and I feel this is tactical because he needs to make sure that he is nearly in a Sunday to see the baby, whereas, she would know he’d no doubt be out with me on a Saturday and he staying over?
Am I being paranoid?
he’s told me that he lives and is with me, not her and doesn’t see her like that any more. I’m still insecure and I feel I can’t let it go and this is what is causing the arguments. He’s sick of talking about it and I’m insecure.

if you got this far, thank you, I’m at my wits end.

lx

OP posts:
DiamondGazette · 07/02/2024 13:25

You don't need this loser in your life. Leave him to sort out the mess he's made. Maybe a tactful suggestion that he uses a condom from now on? Otherwise he'll be one of those revolting men with a dozen kids by a dozen women and not a dad to any of them.

Anotherdayanotherdollar · 07/02/2024 13:27

Run for the hills and don't look back. Then consider yourself really, really lucky to be rid of him

EmeraldSakara · 07/02/2024 13:27

Oh my god- is this for real? There is literally not A SINGLE THING that's good about this man. Run for the hills.

OhNoWhatIf · 07/02/2024 13:27

MrsDanversGlidesAgain · 07/02/2024 12:50

Baby mummies 😡

I hate this term.

Februarydaffodil · 07/02/2024 13:28

Is it half term somewhere ?

Shouldbedoing · 07/02/2024 13:29

Fucking hell.
Just run OP!

Lmac2 · 07/02/2024 13:29

I am also a baby mummy, mummy of a baby (that’s now a lot older) the term doesn’t bother me at all, so sorry if it offends you

OP posts:
Eatmyselffitter · 07/02/2024 13:30

He sounds so dreamy ....

StephanieSuperpowers · 07/02/2024 13:31

Lmac2 · 07/02/2024 13:29

I am also a baby mummy, mummy of a baby (that’s now a lot older) the term doesn’t bother me at all, so sorry if it offends you

Well then why on earth are you allowing such a person associate with your child?

Lmac2 · 07/02/2024 13:33

My child is far older, 20

OP posts:
BlobOut · 07/02/2024 13:33

As I was skim reading I thought why are you bothered if you've already dumped him. Then I see you're back with him! Are you mad?! Don't believe a word this man says, he's absolute scum. I'm sure he's charming but he's playing you. Have some intelligence and self respect and leave this loser behind. Seriously give your head a wobble.

Sarvanga38 · 07/02/2024 13:34

Lmac2 · 07/02/2024 13:33

My child is far older, 20

Then, by Christ, you are old enough to know better!

JuliaHar · 07/02/2024 13:34

Run. Run as fast as you can. What an imbecile.

devildeepbluesea · 07/02/2024 13:34

If your child is 20 you’re far too old to get involved in shit like this. Find some self4”respect and fuck him off good and proper.

StephanieSuperpowers · 07/02/2024 13:36

Your child is 20 years old and you're tearing yourself up over an infantile degenerate?

Justcallmebebes · 07/02/2024 13:36

I seriously have no words

lalalala2 · 07/02/2024 13:36

Lmac2 · 07/02/2024 13:29

I am also a baby mummy, mummy of a baby (that’s now a lot older) the term doesn’t bother me at all, so sorry if it offends you

Not a single person is a baby mummy! You are a mother or mum.

IrritableVowel · 07/02/2024 13:37

At best, this guy is a liar and a cheat.

Why would you tolerate that?

Justcallmebebes · 07/02/2024 13:37

Lmac2 · 07/02/2024 13:33

My child is far older, 20

Well then you are old enough to know better. Your post reads like it's written by a love struck teenager.

Raise your bar

SamW98 · 07/02/2024 13:38

This really has to be a wind up - no one old enough to have a 20 year old speaks like this or tolerates this shit show

Bonbon21 · 07/02/2024 13:38

Oh my God... if you have a child (?!) of 20 you should really really know better..

Or do you WANT to be 'baby mummy no. 3'.

Oh and get and STI check cos you dont REALLY think you are his one and only...

... walking off shaking my head....

StartingAgain2024 · 07/02/2024 13:39

I stopped reading after the first few paragraphs.

Run for the hills and don't look back.

SleepingStandingUp · 07/02/2024 13:39

What is going on in your life Op That your self esteem is so low that yud even consider a friendship with this guy, let alone more?

Just get the hell out before you're baby mama III.

OriginalBirds · 07/02/2024 13:41

Lmac2 · 07/02/2024 13:33

My child is far older, 20

If you're old enough to have a 20 year old, why aren't you mature enough to wonder why, out of all the horrors associated with this man (criminal record, chronic liar, an inability keep it in his pants, two babies under a year old with two different women, just for starters), you're worried about whether he's too friendly with one of the mothers of his babies????

Honestly, OP.

LiveLaughCryalot · 07/02/2024 13:43

Crikey, I assumed from your OP that you were very early 20's. I think if you are old enough to have a 20 year old son and still running after men like this, anything anyone here says is pointless. Crack on. He sounds dreamy.

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