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ND teen not happy about relationship

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Prettypoppies50 · 03/02/2024 17:23

My hubby and I are poly. We have been married over 20 years, have 2 DC and were poly before we wed and after. We are very happy in this lifestyle.

Anyway when we met our current partner (E) and realised it was going to be long term and serious (about 8 years or so ago) we sat down with our eldest child who was a teen at the time and had the conversation that mum had a boyfriend. They have always been very open minded and was absolutely fine about it all. This is when we also 'came out' to friends and family so our kids would nt ever feel like they had to keep any secrets. Almost everybody were very supportive or simply did nt really care about our personal lives in that way for it to be a problem. E has met everyone in our immediate family and friendship circles including the kids and he has been in their lives a long time now. The relationship is romantic between myself and E and he and my hubby are good friends and spend time together platonically. We have also all spent a lot of time together as a family over the years and all has been ok. Until now.

Our son is neuro-diverse and now a teen. He has completely out of the blue become very moody and quiet after E has left. ( E does nt live with us but visits often). He admitted yesterday after several episodes of this that when E and I are alone in a room together, especially if the door is closed it makes him feel bad. DS is not very good at expressing, communicating or understanding thoughts and emotions which is part of his disability but I tried to have a conversation with him so I could understand his thought process and why he was feeling uncomfortable.

To clarify E and I are not sneaking off and having sex and my son has caught us or anything of that nature. My son's definition of 'being alone' relates to mundane things like us cooking dinner together or having a conversation in a room my son is not in. (Which can a lot as E has a job that is quite difficult and he usually needs a rant about things of a quite distressing nature). I see E a lot more then me and hubby see E together at the moment and this is purely due to busy lives, conflicting work schedules and just life in general. But I think my son thinks E and I are having an affair, or his understanding of one and us being alone is proof of that fact and understandably this is then causing him confusion and upsetting feelings. He has just hit puberty and is learning sex ed at school which does nt cover when your parents have extra partners! My son is very used to seeing E and I hug, kiss and snuggle and it only seems to be us being in a separate room by ourselves that is causing the issue.

Whilst I understand the easier thing to do would to simply not be in a separate room alone with E, I also don't want my son to be controlling how I interact with my partner or for him to think it's ok to tell his mum and dad what they can and can't do. I would also like him as part of an LBTQ+ family to continue being brought up open minded, tolerant and progressive. Of course I don't want him to be distressed or feel uncomfortable but E has been part of a normal family life since my son was a toddler.

I honestly don't know how to approach this and just feel a bit stuck.

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Comedycook · 03/02/2024 17:25

No teenager would be cool with their parents doing this...nd or not.

Joey1976 · 03/02/2024 17:31

Sorry I really struggle with children being around Poly lifestyle. As an adult I feel slightly uncomfortable, let alone a teen. I think if you were child free it would be easier.
I imagine your son is trying to deal with normal feelings about sex and relationship's which will have been covered at school. This will be hard to process that his mum has sex with both his Dad and someone else and his Dad is fine with it.
It's really not fair to point towards your son being ND.

MindHowYouGoes · 03/02/2024 17:39

Well if you weren’t married and your DS suddenly became uncomfortable with your partner the answer would be to reassure your DS and talk to him, maybe reduce the contact between you and your boyfriend while you put your DS first and get to the bottom of what’s bothering him.

whether you like it or not poly relationships are widely perceived as weird and he’s getting to the age and stage at school (sex Ed classes) where he might be understanding what your relationship with E involves. He might not have fully understood before and now he’s starting to, and he’s uncomfortable with it.

put your DS first

Jioyt · 03/02/2024 17:40

Sorry, I'm confused about whether you are referring to two different children or one? 8 years ago, you sat down with your eldest, who was a teen, and explained the situation. And now your teen, who is ND, seems to have changed his mind?

I think labels are the problem here. Personally, I'd try and look at the situation without using any labels, then see what that looks like - from your child's perspective.

Of course, a child shouldn't dictate what you do, but if what you do is within the child's space, then surely you can't blame the child for having feelings or opinions about it.

If it were me, I'd limit the private time with E. Yes, it's inconvenient, but at the end of the day, you don't want your child to be more confused/upset than he is now.

altmember · 03/02/2024 17:52

I think you should keep your bf away from your ds. Kids come first after all. If you were a single parent everyone here would be telling you to put your children above your bf and I don't see how your situation is any different to that. It must be very confusing for any teenager to understand the dynamics of a poly relationship, nevermind one who's nd.

glittercunt · 03/02/2024 17:56

You'd be better off posting in one of the great polyam and enm groups on Facebook, if you're on that platform. Mumsnet isn't the sort of place to understand this.

It does sound to me like without your husband there at the same time, it changes how it feels for your child when E is visiting. I know what sort of things I'd suggest trying, but I don't wish to lay myself bare over this topic, outside of the right space.

FionnulaTheCooler · 03/02/2024 17:56

But I think my son thinks E and I are having an affair, or his understanding of one and us being alone is proof of that fact and understandably this is then causing him confusion and upsetting feelings

I can see why he thinks that and why he's confused and upset. Can you not go to E's place to be together instead of him always being in your DS's home?

Madeupballs · 03/02/2024 17:56

Christ, I’m 53 and that would wreck my head. How an ND teen starts to cope with that is beyond me.

Im not sure how it all works but if you have a husband and the boyfriend, how does that fit with making your son part of an LGBTQ+ set up?

Confused, Home Counties.

sprigatito · 03/02/2024 17:57

I don't think you would find many teenagers who would be comfortable with this, tbh. Like it or not, this is a very niche lifestyle that transgresses social norms, and teenagers can be VERY conservative when it comes to their parents.

I'm sure it's not what you want to hear, but I think you should stop seeing the other man while you're still bringing up children. Parenting a ND teenager is such a sensitive process, and the risk factors for his future mental health just outweigh your need to be polyamorous, in my opinion. Once he's independent you can do whatever you like.

EmpressaurusOfTheScathingTinsel · 03/02/2024 18:00

Madeupballs · 03/02/2024 17:56

Christ, I’m 53 and that would wreck my head. How an ND teen starts to cope with that is beyond me.

Im not sure how it all works but if you have a husband and the boyfriend, how does that fit with making your son part of an LGBTQ+ set up?

Confused, Home Counties.

Since the OP said E and her husband were platonic I would guess this comes under Q+.

Which has nothing to do with being LGB.

WinterDeWinter · 03/02/2024 18:03

Your son is struggling because, whether you display it or not, he can't pretend you and your third aren't having sex. Children really really hate to think about their parents having sex.

I know you will deny it, but this is a very sexualised atmosphere for a child to grow up in.

It's even more complicated because he also feels that you are betraying his father.

Honestly, I think the truth is that most people feel the same, they just don't tell you to your face.

Also, In what way are you LBQT+?

Madeupballs · 03/02/2024 18:03

Really? I’m learning something here! I thought the Q was queer, and the plus was “and everything else” but I didn’t think I part of thought it was to do with polygamy, more sexual preference per se.

PaulCostinRIP · 03/02/2024 18:04

Well you will have to decide if your desires to lead a lifestyle that many in society deem as being weird and unconventional trumps the needs of your son.

WinterDeWinter · 03/02/2024 18:05

Madeupballs · 03/02/2024 18:03

Really? I’m learning something here! I thought the Q was queer, and the plus was “and everything else” but I didn’t think I part of thought it was to do with polygamy, more sexual preference per se.

It isn't, unless you're very invested in being seen as cool and different.

newyearnewknees · 03/02/2024 18:05

You're using your child's neurodiversity to shift blame and responsibility on to them for not being comfortable with this. Awful.

Madeupballs · 03/02/2024 18:07

I’d be willing to bet that the OP is ND too. I say that as an ND myself, with ND kids. They’d hate this. But then we are all very square.

WomanHereWomanHere · 03/02/2024 18:07

glittercunt · 03/02/2024 17:56

You'd be better off posting in one of the great polyam and enm groups on Facebook, if you're on that platform. Mumsnet isn't the sort of place to understand this.

It does sound to me like without your husband there at the same time, it changes how it feels for your child when E is visiting. I know what sort of things I'd suggest trying, but I don't wish to lay myself bare over this topic, outside of the right space.

Mumsnet isn't the sort of place to understand this.

That’s probably the same reason the teenager feels uncomfortable with it too. It’s not really a mainstream situation, and life is hard enough for teenagers, let alone neurodiverse teenagers, to have to understand all of this. Often it’s recommended to keep partners out of the home if children are finding it hard to deal with. When it’s an additional partner, then it really makes sense why they might find it difficult.

It’s one thing if your husband is happy to participate in this situation, but it might be a step too far expecting your children to also be happy with it.

ArseInTheCoOpWindow · 03/02/2024 18:08

I’d be mortified if my parents were acting like that. Awful environment for kids.

PaulCostinRIP · 03/02/2024 18:15

I can't bite my tongue, I have a very measured reply earlier.

Why on earth do people with these set ups being children I go the world who are innocent in all this mess and are expected just to suck it up?

It's horribly selfish and cruel and damages children.

EmpressaurusOfTheScathingTinsel · 03/02/2024 18:17

WinterDeWinter · 03/02/2024 18:05

It isn't, unless you're very invested in being seen as cool and different.

For a lot of LGB people Q is still a homophobic insult. I’ve never really got a satisfactory definition of what it means otherwise - heterosexuals seem to ose it if they don’t want to be categorised as straight, & LGB people use it if they think it’s not cool to be LGB. And God only knows what the plus involves. Hmm

SamW98 · 03/02/2024 18:18

Joey1976 · 03/02/2024 17:31

Sorry I really struggle with children being around Poly lifestyle. As an adult I feel slightly uncomfortable, let alone a teen. I think if you were child free it would be easier.
I imagine your son is trying to deal with normal feelings about sex and relationship's which will have been covered at school. This will be hard to process that his mum has sex with both his Dad and someone else and his Dad is fine with it.
It's really not fair to point towards your son being ND.

Totally agree with this. Why bring your private sex lives into full view of your teenager?

It really sits very uncomfortably with me. Feel very sorry for your son having to deal with this at such a confusing time in his journey to adulthood. Its very selfish imo and putting your sex life ahead of your sons emotions

clpsmum · 03/02/2024 18:21

Comedycook · 03/02/2024 17:25

No teenager would be cool with their parents doing this...nd or not.

This I don't know why you had to involve him in it tbh. Save the canoodling until kids aren't around

PaulCostinRIP · 03/02/2024 18:21

'I also don't want my son to be controlling how I interact with my partner or for him to think it's ok to tell his mum and dad what they can and can't do.'

Translation - I am completely selfish, my husband is a cuck and now I'm in the shit because my son is now old enough to understand that what I'm doing is immoral so how do I get him to pipe down so I can carry on doing what I want without giving a shit about anyone else's feelings?

YOU HAVE DAMAGED AND ARE CONTINUING TO DAMAGE YOUR SON BECAUSE OF THE LIFESTYLE YOU HAVE CHOSEN FOR YOU AND WHICH HE WAS INNOCENTLY BORN INTO AND DOESN'T HAVE A CHOICE IN THE MATTER!

Dacadactyl · 03/02/2024 18:23

You're selfish.

Put your child first FFS.

SamW98 · 03/02/2024 18:27

Whilst I understand the easier thing to do would to simply not be in a separate room alone with E, I also don't want my son to be controlling how I interact with my partner or for him to think it's ok to tell his mum and dad what they can and can't do.

Wow - are you for real? How fucking selfish you are if this isn’t a wind up. Put your kid first rather than yourself and some bloke ffs. Honestly your OP is so entitled - whatever words you use it just reads me me me me me me me