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I'm in pieces - partner arrested for domestic abuse offences and relationship over

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calatheamama · 11/01/2024 14:10

As the title says, I'm in absolute pieces. My heart is shattered, my life turned upside down. I'm in a safe place thanks to the help of wonderful friends, but I feel like I'm going insane doubting myself and what happened - was it my fault? Could things have been different? The police took me seriously and he was arrested for domestic abuse offences, but I'm questioning my reality - am I really a victim of domestic abuse?

We've had several explosions in the past where he's lost his temper - he was previously in counselling for anger management but stopped suddenly. He rages with his own family, too - one day he came home from his parents' house with bleeding knuckles because he got so angry that he punched their wall. He's been in a foul mood for months because he went through a period of unemployment and then lost the first job he got because he was turning up consistently late. He hasn't ever physically assaulted me in terms of things like beating, but his history of anger issues made me worry if he would in the future. I've been constantly raged at, belittled and insulted for months, as well as pressured into having sex when I didn't want to (sulking when I said no, guilt tripping me into sex by accusing me of being frigid and never showing him enough love).

Anyway - this week we had another serious incident in which the police had to be called. I don't even know exactly what triggered the argument - I think I was cooking the evening meal and made a comment like 'it would be helpful if you could do a bit more of the cooking throughout the week', as recently he'd settled into the assumption that I'm solely responsible for the cooking and cleaning. (His excuse is 'I've been out working my ass off all day', whereas I work remotely from home...) An argument starts. Then he starts shouting and raging, making claims about how lazy I am, a pampered bitch, that I'm delusional, that I've got a problem with my memory and I should be medically examined, etc (I do have a mental health diagnosis, but it's being managed well and he tends to weaponise the diagnosis against me, making me double guess my reality). Then he goes upstairs and starts hurling all of my clothes, books, laptop and other possessions down the stairs, yelling that this is it, he's going to kick me out on the street. At this point I'm in tears, begging him to stop, but he's threatening to call my parents and friends and 'tell them what I'm really like'. So at that point I call the police. I'm so upset that I find myself disclosing everything that has been going on. To my shock, they actually arrested him.

He has, as I predicted, denied everything when he was questioned. He even went so far as to say that I threw all my possessions down the stairs to frame him. He's been released on bail with the conditions of not going to our property or even our street for 3 months, so at least that will give me time to pack my entire life up and make alternative living plans. I don't know whether I want to press charges, I don't even know how effective it would be. I'm in shock at the moment and just wish I could disappear. Luckily it was just us in the house, no kids involved.

On the surface we were the ideal couple, with a lovely house and home, great friendship circle, we were even due to adopt a rescue cat. Despite my feelings of being trapped in the relationship and becoming more and more unhappy in myself, I still loved him. I feel so guilty now, like I've damaged the life of someone I love so dearly. After everything that's happened I still feel like I just want to run to him and embrace him. But I think in my heart I know that I can't go on like this. I want my identity and my dreams back.

I know Mumsnet isn't necessarily the best place to be posting, but while I try and figure out all the other practical things, I feel like I need some reassurance... have I done the right thing? Am I stupid for not having broken things off earlier and avoid such an extreme situation? I'm devastated and so worried that I'll regret this forever.

OP posts:
ClematisWren · 11/01/2024 18:20

@calatheamama for joint accounts in England, all the money belongs to both people, so either of you can take out all the money/use the overdraft at any time. This means that legally you can take all the money out and he would have comeback, but he could do the same to you.

Whilst you are worrying about the morality of taking the £2000 in addition to your contribution, he could be clearing the account completely, and there would be nothing you or the bank could do. And we know he is not a moral person.

This is why we are saying to take the money NOW, urgently, before he gets to it, and get the account suspended or your name removed so he can’t get you into debt for any overdraft.

ClematisWren · 11/01/2024 18:21

Sorry, typo, he would have NO comeback

Heyhoitsme · 11/01/2024 18:33

You have done the right thing. Now move out and get away from the area. You can not trust him, ever.

OliveToboogie · 11/01/2024 23:07

You are absolutely doing the right thing. He sounds a very dangerous individual. Use this time to get your things together and get as far away from this deadbeat as possible. You have a fab new life waiting for you. Go get it girl 💐💐

Dery · 11/01/2024 23:36

Lots of great advice above but absolutely this:

“I’d be careful about the advice to take the 2k from the joint account unless you have some better legal advice. As this is a debt from his family and not from him, strictly you need to recover this from his family. Also, if there are outstanding utilities that you pay from the joint account, by direct debit for example, you should probably also take these into consideration. It all really depends on the current balance in this account.

Good luck in this terrible situation.

Take from the joint account only money which is indisputably yours ie the amount you have paid in. The £2k debt is owed by his parents, not him. Do NOT give him the opportunity to argue that you have stolen £2k which belongs to him. That will muddy the waters and could really backfire on you.

keylemon · 11/01/2024 23:50

You have been very lucky the police acted swiftly. You need to move on now. It is common to feel confused when you have been mentally abused. Please do not be hard on yourself and that person does not deserve your love. Too angry and too violent. Take your time to heal and surround yourself with people that make you feel good. You are doing the right thing. Do not look back.

OhcantthInkofaname · 12/01/2024 00:07

He would have stepped up to physical abuse.

As for money- Take 50% of the joint account plus the 2,000 you put into house maintenance. TOMORROW.

calatheamama · 12/01/2024 02:07

An update - I apologise it's late. I got very good advice from a police caseworker I've been assigned to. I've taken the acceptable amount from the joint account, not over the reasonable amount, first thing tomorrow I will be in contact with bank to remove myself from the account. I've got work stuff sorted for now too.
Just feeling exhausted. What an awful person. I am starting to think about him in hindsight now, as well - who he really was. Sigh.
Just so so so grateful to have good friends at this point. They need medals for their help! As do so many posters here today. I want to say thanks to everyone, hopefully I can get to that! 🤗😘

OP posts:
Pinkbonbon · 12/01/2024 02:34

Good update op, hope you get a decent nights sleep.

He really is horrible. Imagine if one of your wonderful friends had had someone treat them that way. You'd be so angry for them. And you have every right to feel that for yourself.

No one deserves a bastard like him in their life.
And ultimately you'll be bloody glad he's out of yours. Hopefully in a wee stony jail cell, with a window that has a perminant draft too!

Mariposistaa · 12/01/2024 03:23

This is the first day of the rest of your life.
Forget the money if you have to. It’s not important. Rebuild your life without him with your friends and family. You can still get the cat when you have a place to live.

TiredCatLady · 12/01/2024 03:24

Glad to hear the update OP.

You’ve 100% done the right thing. As a PP said, these kinds of things are classic abuser script and they get worse not better:

Calling you delusional
Accusing you of a bad memory
Saying you should be medically examined.
Threatening to call family and friends and tell them "what you are really like".

Given your housing situation - if you are able to, get a friend or a couple of friends, go round and move your stuff out ASAP. Extract yourself as quickly as possible starting with important documents and anything sentimental. I would not be alone in the property despite what the police might have said to him, have you got anyone you can stay with or anyone who can stay with you?

When you move, you can set up Mail redirection through a specific DV portal so he can’t find out where you are - block him and his family on any socials etc now.

You’ve got this.

Missingmyusername · 12/01/2024 03:32

Are you kidding?! He’s unhinged!

Take your money asap and get out.
And adopt kitty when you can.

oakleaffy · 12/01/2024 03:36

JadziaD · 11/01/2024 14:39

I would take out what you've contributed plus £2000 and then just let him and his family know that's what you've done.

I'd also prioritise moving out of his family's house as soon as possible. He might be restricted from coming onto the property, but they aren't.

It's hard OP but you do need to protect yourself. In a day or two you are even more going to be worrying that you over reacted and he will calm down and beg you to take him back. Please do not go back as it will only get worse, I can 100% promise you that.

THIS ...
@calatheamama Take out your money that you paid into THEIR house.

Get out of that house asap...it isn't safe there.

The parents {His} will naturally side with their son.

They may well be outraged that you are still in 'their' house while their son can't access it.

I hope you don't have children with this man.

Don't get a rescue cat yet- sort yourself out with your OWN accommodation.

It's a nightmare , but in your own place you should be safe.

Do not let this man back into your life under any circumstances.

applesaucepenguin · 12/01/2024 03:56

Good grief I could have written this myself! I actually really really needed to read this as I'm about to leave an abusive partner - no marriage or kids but we have pets which has made things a bit more complicated and slowed down the process. His family and friends are local, mine are 5000 miles away so the isolation feels very real. He's never physically assaulted me but he's punched walls, doors, even tore down the garden gate. He did anger management briefly so I stayed with him because I convinced myself that he was trying. I've always felt bad because in some ways he's a good person and leaving in a couple of weeks TERRIFIES me but reading this has given me hope.

Wishing you all the luck in the world with moving forward with your life and hopefully I'm only a few steps behind you.

Tilllly · 12/01/2024 05:07

@calatheamama
💪🏻 well done
This is an awful situation and you're doing amazingly well

All I have to add advice wise, is get a book and note things down
Who you spoke to, when, what advice etc
You might need it long term, plus there'll be lots going on short term and easy to forget things

Tiltyhead24 · 12/01/2024 06:10

Yes you 100% did the right thing. I'm a few months on from you and whilst life is far from perfect...it is very peaceful.
My life previously was a rollercoaster of highs and lows...who wants to live like that?

You will have lots of doubts at the moment but less as time goes on. I promise.

Well done for making those first hard moves. Be proud! You are brave and courageous 💪

HogwartsForever11 · 12/01/2024 06:16

You are doing the right thing and you are very brave.

6 days ago I ended my relationship due to years of increasingly controlling and physically abusive behaviour. It’s been 7 years, basically my entire 20s wasted. I’m now calling off my wedding, selling our house. So I know it’s a lot and it’s really awful and hard but you are doing the right thing.

Stackarack · 12/01/2024 06:29

Well done OP. You’ve taken great steps forward.

merrywidow · 12/01/2024 06:38

The bank should be able to put a stop on the account as there is a domestic dispute whilst you remove your name, neither if you will be able to use it but it will safeguard it

PurpleFlower1983 · 12/01/2024 06:48

You have 100% done the right thing and you will know this very soon when you realise that life does not have to be like this. Prepare for the ‘suicide attempts’, professions of love, blackmail, soulmate crap though, that will come. Write everything he has done down and read it. Keep reading it when he tries to crawl back but do not take him back.

I speak from bitter experience of 9 years with an abusive man. It should have been much less but I was weak. When I eventually got out and into a normal relationship I could not believe what I had been through.

Stay strong.

ironedcurtain · 12/01/2024 07:03

at least you're not in literal pieces from his actions

Sweden99 · 12/01/2024 07:06

calatheamama · 11/01/2024 14:10

As the title says, I'm in absolute pieces. My heart is shattered, my life turned upside down. I'm in a safe place thanks to the help of wonderful friends, but I feel like I'm going insane doubting myself and what happened - was it my fault? Could things have been different? The police took me seriously and he was arrested for domestic abuse offences, but I'm questioning my reality - am I really a victim of domestic abuse?

We've had several explosions in the past where he's lost his temper - he was previously in counselling for anger management but stopped suddenly. He rages with his own family, too - one day he came home from his parents' house with bleeding knuckles because he got so angry that he punched their wall. He's been in a foul mood for months because he went through a period of unemployment and then lost the first job he got because he was turning up consistently late. He hasn't ever physically assaulted me in terms of things like beating, but his history of anger issues made me worry if he would in the future. I've been constantly raged at, belittled and insulted for months, as well as pressured into having sex when I didn't want to (sulking when I said no, guilt tripping me into sex by accusing me of being frigid and never showing him enough love).

Anyway - this week we had another serious incident in which the police had to be called. I don't even know exactly what triggered the argument - I think I was cooking the evening meal and made a comment like 'it would be helpful if you could do a bit more of the cooking throughout the week', as recently he'd settled into the assumption that I'm solely responsible for the cooking and cleaning. (His excuse is 'I've been out working my ass off all day', whereas I work remotely from home...) An argument starts. Then he starts shouting and raging, making claims about how lazy I am, a pampered bitch, that I'm delusional, that I've got a problem with my memory and I should be medically examined, etc (I do have a mental health diagnosis, but it's being managed well and he tends to weaponise the diagnosis against me, making me double guess my reality). Then he goes upstairs and starts hurling all of my clothes, books, laptop and other possessions down the stairs, yelling that this is it, he's going to kick me out on the street. At this point I'm in tears, begging him to stop, but he's threatening to call my parents and friends and 'tell them what I'm really like'. So at that point I call the police. I'm so upset that I find myself disclosing everything that has been going on. To my shock, they actually arrested him.

He has, as I predicted, denied everything when he was questioned. He even went so far as to say that I threw all my possessions down the stairs to frame him. He's been released on bail with the conditions of not going to our property or even our street for 3 months, so at least that will give me time to pack my entire life up and make alternative living plans. I don't know whether I want to press charges, I don't even know how effective it would be. I'm in shock at the moment and just wish I could disappear. Luckily it was just us in the house, no kids involved.

On the surface we were the ideal couple, with a lovely house and home, great friendship circle, we were even due to adopt a rescue cat. Despite my feelings of being trapped in the relationship and becoming more and more unhappy in myself, I still loved him. I feel so guilty now, like I've damaged the life of someone I love so dearly. After everything that's happened I still feel like I just want to run to him and embrace him. But I think in my heart I know that I can't go on like this. I want my identity and my dreams back.

I know Mumsnet isn't necessarily the best place to be posting, but while I try and figure out all the other practical things, I feel like I need some reassurance... have I done the right thing? Am I stupid for not having broken things off earlier and avoid such an extreme situation? I'm devastated and so worried that I'll regret this forever.

I am a man. This is not your fault and thank goodness you got away.

Mumsnet would take you side because you are a woman. I would not. I will tell you why this is not your fault and I will then let you know where I think you might learn.

The police took you seriously. That is not as normal as you think, they have experience and experience of it not being worth investigating. With all of that, they took you seriously. The issue is you are not taking yourself seriously, as you have been living with someone who trained you not to.

It is common for women to leave men when they are unemployed. You stuck by him and even did housework and cooking during that time. I have been in realtionships with women who did not do that even when they were unemployed and I was working full time. They thought they were hard done by when I wanted help from them. It was not me being unreasonable and not you.

I have had partners with mental health issues. I have never used it against them ever. I do not even like it when women use that against the male partners, but it is certainly not OK to use against you ever. You do not believe that, but be modest enough to allow us to believe it.

It is a rule of thumb, but when your partner is lying about you, it is because the truth does not suit them. When my partners would make stuff up, I could reflect I could not be that bad :) For a man to make up accusations against his partner is disgusting and not normal.

Mumsnet is not always the best place. I was in a horrible marriage but as a man was accused of terrible things. I am not a typical mumsnetter, and most of them on here will be complaining about the selfishness of men when those men put them first. These is nothing like that in your case.

You are here for reassurance as you do not trust your own mind. Right now, perhaps it is OK not to. You have been through a horrible, horrible time. Your mind has been working hard to try and see his point of view, question your own and try and work out what the truth is. He has just worried about his ownfeeling in the moment. Believe me, as a man, I know how hard that it. You need a friend right now and be a friend to yourself.

He is not normal, his actions were not normal. Mumsnet is sometimes dangerous as it pretends it is normal wor women to be saints and men to be bumboles. This is nonsense. You should never go throught that again ever.

ClematisWren · 12/01/2024 07:06

Well done OP, you’ve made great progress and I’m so glad you have sought out real-life support.
The idea of a notebook is a great one, both for writing down what happened with him and for practicalities, we don’t always remember things well when we’re under a lot of stress.
I hope you’re able to get some rest. 💐

OneMoreTime23 · 12/01/2024 07:51

I don't know whether I want to press charges, I don't even know how effective it would be.

Not your decision anymore. If there is evidence or witnesses willing to testify the CPS can press charges without your day so. (My husband and I were witnesses to DV and our evidence got the guy sentenced.)

GremlinDolphin4 · 12/01/2024 08:02

You have done the right thing 100%. You deserve better and no one should behave like this to you. Well done and stay strong. Sending love and strength to you. Xx