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I'm in pieces - partner arrested for domestic abuse offences and relationship over

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calatheamama · 11/01/2024 14:10

As the title says, I'm in absolute pieces. My heart is shattered, my life turned upside down. I'm in a safe place thanks to the help of wonderful friends, but I feel like I'm going insane doubting myself and what happened - was it my fault? Could things have been different? The police took me seriously and he was arrested for domestic abuse offences, but I'm questioning my reality - am I really a victim of domestic abuse?

We've had several explosions in the past where he's lost his temper - he was previously in counselling for anger management but stopped suddenly. He rages with his own family, too - one day he came home from his parents' house with bleeding knuckles because he got so angry that he punched their wall. He's been in a foul mood for months because he went through a period of unemployment and then lost the first job he got because he was turning up consistently late. He hasn't ever physically assaulted me in terms of things like beating, but his history of anger issues made me worry if he would in the future. I've been constantly raged at, belittled and insulted for months, as well as pressured into having sex when I didn't want to (sulking when I said no, guilt tripping me into sex by accusing me of being frigid and never showing him enough love).

Anyway - this week we had another serious incident in which the police had to be called. I don't even know exactly what triggered the argument - I think I was cooking the evening meal and made a comment like 'it would be helpful if you could do a bit more of the cooking throughout the week', as recently he'd settled into the assumption that I'm solely responsible for the cooking and cleaning. (His excuse is 'I've been out working my ass off all day', whereas I work remotely from home...) An argument starts. Then he starts shouting and raging, making claims about how lazy I am, a pampered bitch, that I'm delusional, that I've got a problem with my memory and I should be medically examined, etc (I do have a mental health diagnosis, but it's being managed well and he tends to weaponise the diagnosis against me, making me double guess my reality). Then he goes upstairs and starts hurling all of my clothes, books, laptop and other possessions down the stairs, yelling that this is it, he's going to kick me out on the street. At this point I'm in tears, begging him to stop, but he's threatening to call my parents and friends and 'tell them what I'm really like'. So at that point I call the police. I'm so upset that I find myself disclosing everything that has been going on. To my shock, they actually arrested him.

He has, as I predicted, denied everything when he was questioned. He even went so far as to say that I threw all my possessions down the stairs to frame him. He's been released on bail with the conditions of not going to our property or even our street for 3 months, so at least that will give me time to pack my entire life up and make alternative living plans. I don't know whether I want to press charges, I don't even know how effective it would be. I'm in shock at the moment and just wish I could disappear. Luckily it was just us in the house, no kids involved.

On the surface we were the ideal couple, with a lovely house and home, great friendship circle, we were even due to adopt a rescue cat. Despite my feelings of being trapped in the relationship and becoming more and more unhappy in myself, I still loved him. I feel so guilty now, like I've damaged the life of someone I love so dearly. After everything that's happened I still feel like I just want to run to him and embrace him. But I think in my heart I know that I can't go on like this. I want my identity and my dreams back.

I know Mumsnet isn't necessarily the best place to be posting, but while I try and figure out all the other practical things, I feel like I need some reassurance... have I done the right thing? Am I stupid for not having broken things off earlier and avoid such an extreme situation? I'm devastated and so worried that I'll regret this forever.

OP posts:
Octavia64 · 11/01/2024 15:52

Hi OP

I'm sorry.

It's really hard when they turn out to not be the person you thought they were.

In similar circumstances I found the Lundy Bancroft book Why does he do that helpful.

You can download it as a pdf.

Lundy worked with abusive men for many many years and it's a really helpful book.

Unfortunately at the end of the day he cannot stop himself and you need to protect yourself so you don't get hurt.

Give yourself time. If you have friends who will listen then talk to them (mine were not helpful).

JFDIYOLO · 11/01/2024 15:56

Have you transferred the money yet, op,?

I'm sorry to nag, but this is important.

And if you don't act fast - he might.

OriginalUsername2 · 11/01/2024 15:58

This is a familiar story for a lot of us (and hundreds of thousands of women before us).

Mumsnet is the perfect place to post.

You have absolutely done the right thing.

LetMeDream · 11/01/2024 16:05

There is nothing more dangerous on earth than a man with anger issues.

Toooldforthis36 · 11/01/2024 16:05

AgnesX · 11/01/2024 15:04

What Red Chester said!

please do this ASAP!!

Pinkbonbon · 11/01/2024 16:10

LetMeDream · 11/01/2024 16:05

There is nothing more dangerous on earth than a man with anger issues.

Maybe a hippo. I hear they're utterly psycho.

But generally speaking, this.

But I would note that he doesn't have anger issues, he has abuse issues. As in, he isn't abusive because he is angry - he is angry because he is abusive.

extrasushiplease · 11/01/2024 16:20

It's chaos when you're in the middle of it, all your good memories and love tied up in the abuse and lack of respect for you as a human being. What you're feeling is 100% normal, but please know that it's simply you processing this massive event. Us on the outside can clearly see that 1) You did the right thing 2) This was overdue 3) Without being stopped, he would have continued escalating 4) Any negative repercussions that happen to his life are because of his behavior, full stop.

I'm sending you love and strength. Whenever you start really beating up on yourself, ask yourself what you'd tell your friend if their partner was treating them the way he was treating you. It can be hard to be our own best friends during the toughest times, but that's when we need to do it the most. Lean on your loved ones, and look forward to a brighter, less stressful future. You are so brave!!

ConsistentlyElectrifiedElves · 11/01/2024 16:23

calatheamama · 11/01/2024 14:36

Thank you for the supportive comments so far. I still can't process what's happening. Thank goodness we weren't married and/or had kids.

I'm relieved that the police took it seriously and also took into account that I'm far more socially isolated where I live - he has family locally, mine are on the other side of the country. The conditions of his bail don't permit him to go near the property for 3 months, so I should be safe, but I'm still fearful as I'm in a precarious position - the house is owned by his parents and we're only informally renting (we signed a contract with them but I've never received a copy despite asking...). I've luckily got my personal bank account but we've also got several thousand pounds in a joint account that I don't know what to do about (do I take out what I've contributed? Will he restrict my access to it?) I'm also owed £2000 back from his family for work on the the house which I was guilt tripped into paying. I wish I'd never done that - what landlord asks their tenant to pay for major works, even if they see themselves as family? Luckily I got them to sign a contract promising they would return the money if our relationship ever came to an end, but as I'm sure they'll be supporting their son, I'm doubtful how easy that will be.

At the very least, I will use this time to pack up all off my possessions and find a new place to live. Sigh. It's so upsetting.

The housing situation is perfect in a way. No formal rental agreement means you can leave as soon as you're ready to with no fear of being sued for unpaid rents. Did you actually see and sign the contract, or did your partner sign it on your behalf?

Go, find yourself a little place to rent and get yourself that rescue cat! You'll find you're a much happier person when you're away from him.

On a practical note, he's been told to keep away, but please prepare yourself for if he doesn't. I'm not sure if you'd be allowed to change the locks, but at a very minimum, make sure you have deadbolts/chains that you can lock when you're indoors to keep him out and give you the chance to call the police if he turns up.

Re the joint account, I would take out your half (or just what you've contributed if that's what you feel more comfortable with) PLUS the £2k his family owes you. If he doesn't like it, then his family can pay him back instead.

Do you need to stay local to where you are for work, or can you go back nearer your family? I'd be moving as far away from him as possible if I were you and making sure he doesn't find out where you've gone to.

Good luck OP!

Angelsrose · 11/01/2024 16:24

Op you're so brave! Well done for escaping.

calatheamama · 11/01/2024 16:26

Thanks for so much for support everyone. I'm starting to feel like the mist has lifted from my eyes - I'm starting to understand who he really is, and worry he might do the same to someone else in the future. I've been spending time sorting out things like sick leave/self-certification and GP appointment this afternoon. I'm terrified to check the joint account... I think I might need to do it when my friends are nearby in a couple of hours, for moral support. Wish me luck.

My only concern re: the joint account is the fallout from his family members, and also that if I empty the account, will the family then claim that I need to continue paying rent and bills in the property as long as I'm still there? Usually our bills came directly out from there. Obviously I want to get out of that house asap - tomorrow I'm going in with a trusted friend to start clearing things out.

I think given that I have the signed contract I could go through a solicitor's letter to claim the £2000 from his family, I definitely want to avoid any messy communication with them.

Apparently I can only claim for one of 2 things: pressing charges, or the DVPN. Apparently if you press charges, you don't have access to the DVPN. But I'm going to get in touch with a DV organisation to get better advice on this.

I go through waves of panic, depression but also relief that I'm leaving this stage of my life... I wonder what fantastic things could be on the other side of this.

OP posts:
Nanny0gg · 11/01/2024 16:33

Blanca87 · 11/01/2024 14:18

Not only are you protecting yourself if you press charges, you are also protecting women in the future.

We don't 'press charges' in this country.

The police look at all the evidence and then hand over to the Crown Prosecution Service who make the decision.

Hopefully they'll chuck the book at him and he'll end up where he belongs.

@calatheamama none of this was your doing. All was him. And it could have got much, much worse

Kendodd · 11/01/2024 16:34

With regard the bank account and in case nobody has said it yet. Take out your money plus the 2k. THEN GET YOUR NAME TAKEN OFF THAT ACCOUNT. Your ex couyld empty the account and overdraft and you'd be liabile for the money.

ohdamnitjanet · 11/01/2024 16:37

katmarie · 11/01/2024 14:44

As well as your half, and the £2000 his family owe you, I would also take from the joint account the cost of replacing everything he has broken in his throwing rage. If it was me I would also take moving costs from what remains as well, not from your own half, it's not your fault you are having to move. In fact if I tried I could probably come up with justification to remove every penny in that account. But then I'm petty and vindictive and he's clearly an arsehole and a shit and deserves what is coming to him.

Every word of this - if he hasn’t cleaned you out already. I would take it all - now - you’ll need a deposit on a new place, he’ll just move back in. Get away and block him and his family.

Epidote · 11/01/2024 16:44

If you are named in the tenancy contract you need to speak with your landlord to change it only to his name. I'm not sure how that is done.

Why don't you go to the citizen advice bureau, it is free and they know where to ask and give you useful information. I did it when I split. It was a good reassurance to know that there are resources out there if I need them.

GoodNightsSleep · 11/01/2024 16:45

I’d be careful about the advice to take the 2k from the joint account unless you have some better legal advice. As this is a debt from his family and not from him, strictly you need to recover this from his family. Also, if there are outstanding utilities that you pay from the joint account, by direct debit for example, you should probably also take these into consideration. It all really depends on the current balance in this account.

Good luck in this terrible situation.

Bankholidayhelp · 11/01/2024 17:02

I think I'd be wary of his family rocking up at the house. He might be barred from coming back but his family won't be. Can they gain access relatively easily - either by their key or someone else? Make sure doors are locked and security latches in place etc.
I'd round up my key docs - passport, birth certificate etc, medicines and any sentimental stuff and get them off the premises - either into my car boot or to a friends. Anything else can be replaced.

FreeRider · 11/01/2024 17:04

If you are in the UK it's not up to you to 'press charges' (never was). The Police and the CPS make that decision, and they don't need your agreement to do so.

Justwrong68 · 11/01/2024 17:09

Those things he said to you, pretty much the same words that I heard. Mine wasn't violent but leaving was the best thing I've done, for me and him. You'll be doing him a favour as hell now be forced to still help, which is the only way.

Disasterclass · 11/01/2024 17:13

Please get in contact with a domestic abuse service (usually an IDVA service) asap. You can usually find numbers on your local council website or the police officer in your case can direct you.

They can explain in detail supporting the police case (as pp have said, not pressing charges), DVPNs, housing options, civil orders that will keep him away for longer counselling options etc.

If you have bail conditions you don't need a DVPN because you have something else in place but he might try to weedle his way back in at some point so get all the advice now so you know your rights.

LodiDodi · 11/01/2024 17:20

I actually wish men like this would kill themselves but unfortunately they don't tend to be the types to do so

Pixiedust1234 · 11/01/2024 17:23

I've only read the OPs posts.

but I feel like I'm going insane doubting myself and what happened - was it my fault?
No, it wasn't your fault.

Could things have been different?
Only if he had changed, but he didn't. He didn't even complete the anger management course.

The police took me seriously and he was arrested for domestic abuse offences, but I'm questioning my reality - am I really a victim of domestic abuse?
I understand this completely. I don't feel like a DV victim but I've been told (by various organisations) that I am being abused. It's another layer of headfuckery, isn't it?

Contact Women's Aid for help and support. You can do this Flowers
https://www.womensaid.org.uk/information-support/

RedChester · 11/01/2024 17:41

OP please just take the money and leave ASAP. Get your name off that account. You’ve no tenancy agreement with that family and you owe them nothing. They could make it very difficult for you very quickly. They could enter the house, Chuck your stuff out and then change the locks. And you’d have no come back as you’ve no tenancy. You’re not safe there at all.

TAKE THE MONEY AND LEAVE

stomachameleon · 11/01/2024 17:45

Take the money. They won't play nice I guarantee it. Transfer it and go home.

Raspberrymoon49 · 11/01/2024 17:51

This is all on him, he’s an abusive coward and bully, don’t waste any time on doubting yourself, get away from the house as soon as possible, his parents will probably support him and you need your own home with no ties to him or his family

Xoxoxoxoxoxox · 11/01/2024 18:18

Keep the momentum going and hold your nerve.
Even if you loose a bit of money it will be worth it in the long run to get rid of him so prioritise your move, you don't want to be trapped with an abusive guy and I'm so glad the police took you seriously.

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